Do drow grow beards? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Do drow grow beards? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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skywyze
07-28-07, 10:58 AM Or any other elf for that matter? I've seen a few pictures of drow with beards, and Elfquest elves grow beards, except they have to be like a hundred years old. So what's the official stance?
EvilVegan
07-28-07, 11:10 AM NO!
Asra
07-28-07, 11:27 AM Elves don't have body hair, at all. I think they have eyebrows though.
skywyze
07-28-07, 11:31 AM Is beard body hair?
CaoSlayer
07-28-07, 11:33 AM Beards and pointy ears looks awful together.

Proof:

http://parttimeotaku.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/vlcsnap-1056271.jpg
skywyze
07-28-07, 11:34 AM Ah, I actually found the answer to my own question:
Elves have no facial or body hair.
penchant
07-28-07, 11:37 AM Mirror Spock.

Traditionally elves never had beards, though half elves can. This comes from LotR and is continued specifically through Dragon Lance as it was mentioned several times in those novels.
Asra
07-28-07, 11:37 AM Lemme guess, thought a Drow with a goatee would look awesome? ;)
skywyze
07-28-07, 11:38 AM Lemme guess, thought a Drow with a goatee would look awesome? ;)Nope, but we're in an all-drow campaign set in the UD, and I've been watching 300 once too many times. ;)

Edit: I suppose it could be seen as a last desperate attempt to steer away from the famous elven femininity.
Asra
07-28-07, 11:44 AM Many have tried to steer away from the Elves Femininity, thats how you got Kaorti!

Your Drow could always wear a fake beard. Or if you want to be manly, cut out an eye and carry it on a string around your neck! Sure, the DM might impose a penalty, but the manliness would be worth it.
skywyze
07-28-07, 11:53 AM Seriously considering cutting out both eyes and taking Blind-fighting to compensate. Maybe get a Blindfold of True Darkness. Where're the Kaorti from?

Btw, don't get me wrong - I think the sneaky, shadowy, deviously clever drow are cool. It's just that they're elves. And the people we're gaming with are... How to put this politely... Well, some of them are very, very eager to prove their straightness... Which of course only can mean one thing. But I digress.

So yeah, where're the kaorti from?

Edit: Or maybe have both eyes lost to an illithid were-bear in a wrestling match. *ponders*

Edit-edit: Isn't there a half-drow somewhere? Maybe he could be half-drow, half bear or something.
Asra
07-28-07, 12:02 PM The Kaorti are from the fiend folio. They were a group of elves who were messing around with magical experiments, and wound up getting sucked up into the Far Realm, and turned manly/hideous. It turned them into Outsiders with some pretty great abilities, but they need to wear resin suits outside of their Kaorti Cysts to stay safe.

You can do a search for them on Wizards, and you can find some adventures dealing with a Kaorti Ubercyst.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ff_gallery/50125.jpg

Theres their picture. Not very feminine at all.

EDIT: Theres a half-drow somewhere. I think its in Races of Faerun.
skywyze
07-28-07, 12:06 PM Hmm... Which is worse... Monster from the Far Realms or a Drow who dances like a girl? I will need to ponder this and see if our DM even allows Kaorti. The general rule is that we all need to play Drow, but I'm not sure how strict she'll be on enforcing that rule. We'll see.
skywyze
07-28-07, 12:10 PM EDIT: Theres a half-drow somewhere. I think its in Races of Faerun.Oh yes, I see it now. They have the same stats as half-elves. Now I'm left with the dilemma of playing the weakest race in existance, or being a rouge-wearing ponce. *ponders some more*
Asra
07-28-07, 12:12 PM You could always play a Drow with a template, I suppose. Or perhaps buy an Aboleth or Illithid Graft. Then you can be a plant in Drow Society! Uwah hah hah?
Meep326
07-28-07, 12:29 PM If your DM allows it (huge LA, +5 ouch) you could use the Half-Ilithid Template from FF. Mmm... brains, if you don't want to take the LA hit, there's a feat chain in Complete Psionics that'll get you four tentacle attacks and let you eat teh brains.
The_Shaman
07-28-07, 01:00 PM IIRC, drow do not generally grow beards. However, one in, say, ten thousand might be able to get more than 5 hairs on their chin. IIRC the Drizzt series had one of the Menzoberanzan weaponmasters - an unusually big and hulking male - with a goatee or something. What was his name, though... He was not of the Baenre, might have been the del'Armgo weaponmaster, Uthegentel. It's like bearded women - they may not be common, but every now and then genes mess up a little.
EvilVegan
07-28-07, 01:11 PM A girdle of Masculinity on an elf male turns them into an orc.
key
07-28-07, 01:27 PM From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees."
Orchomenos
07-28-07, 02:11 PM You could be a Duergar merchant who somewhat befriend the rest of the all-drow party. Hard to be more manly than a duergar, even females are bald!
Asra
07-28-07, 02:15 PM Duergar women are far more manly than normal Dwarven men. Truly a manly race to be admired...
Radijs
07-28-07, 03:22 PM Lemme guess, thought a Drow with a goatee would look awesome? ;)
Drow with ring-beards look awesome.
EvilVegan
07-28-07, 04:08 PM From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees."

NO! NO! NO!
Asra
07-28-07, 04:25 PM I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf."
Beowulf8989
07-29-07, 12:25 AM I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf."

So... that means nine out of ten can grow beards? Awesome! Hmmm, all that's left is Drow tanks and explosive arrows.
zorgling25
07-29-07, 12:34 AM On a slightly unrelated note, is there any official PC stats for a Draegloth (half-drow/half-fiend)? I know I could use a half-fiend template on a drow, but thats boring...
Aloki
07-29-07, 12:41 AM Yes, they can. Only small ones though. In Forgotten Realms anyway...
ElberethSilverleaf
07-29-07, 03:20 AM NO
EvilVegan
07-29-07, 08:26 AM Yes, they can. Only small ones though. In Forgotten Realms anyway...

Only Small Elves can grow beards? Are you perhaps referring to GNOMES?!
Mark_Aged
07-29-07, 08:38 AM I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf."

I'm guessing that there's an exception in the "elves can't have facial or body hair" rule for drow.
Khatoblepas
07-29-07, 08:43 AM From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten thousand) are capable of growing facial hair, and often are beaten to death with it by the female drow clerics, who weave it into the shape of a whip, flaying him with his own facial hair. Matriarchal society, remember? Manliness is weak!"

Fixed.
Aloki
07-29-07, 09:38 AM I meant they can only grow small BEARDS

For example
http://www.scotttatman.com/images/scott_beard_headshot_small.jpg

And what the gnomes have in the PHB

This goes for ALL elves, and it is the same color as all their hair
Eikre
07-29-07, 09:46 AM Nice picture. He stares into my soul.

...Soul!
The_Shaman
07-29-07, 02:47 PM On a slightly unrelated note, is there any official PC stats for a Draegloth (half-drow/half-fiend)? I know I could use a half-fiend template on a drow, but thats boring...

IIRC yes, check Champions of Ruin.
Phelix_the_Warrior
07-29-07, 10:12 PM There are two things I like that Blizzard did with their elves (more in Warcraft than in WoW) and thats

A: The ears (i like them massive ears)
B: Small ammounts of facial hair, not a lot, but small ammounts like a small beard or a goatee ect.

My Drow Wizard, before he went insane at an arena killed 50 civilians and was subsequently shot to death by crossbowmen, had a white goatee, and since they are the international facial hair of evil, works great on Drow
dknight100
07-29-07, 11:46 PM From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees."

For a moment, i thought it said "and others wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees"... Perhaps my mind is stuck on how classic a drow wearing a fake beard to make him more manly would be.
key
07-30-07, 12:46 AM There are two things I like that Blizzard did with their elves (more in Warcraft than in WoW) and thats

A: The ears (i like them massive ears)

Do they all look like these? http://features.cgsociety.org/stories/2007_04/night_elf/banner01.jpg

Those are borderline old man ears.

I like thinner ones that jet straight out, parallel to the ground.

http://www.shiroitsubasa.com/shiroitsubasa/deedlit_wall2.jpg
skywyze
07-30-07, 09:42 AM Man, that's hot.

Big ears are full of win. They have similar ears in Elfquest too, though they don't stand out from the head as much, and without the crazy eyebrows. Here's one with a beard. Kind of the elf I was trying to make when I found out you can't have facial hair as an elf in D&D.

http://www.temp.sfbok.se/kat/img/20038.jpg

Edit: Found a better pic.
pukunui
07-30-07, 04:56 PM From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees."

I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf."

It predates WotC actually. I was recently perusing my old 2e Complete Book of Elves (TSR) and all the male drow in that book are depicted sporting Fu Manchu style moustaches ...

I'll see if I can find an example ...
Oggutho
07-30-07, 05:19 PM Would a drow with a goatee be even more evil? Would he be so evil that he flipped around the other side of the law/chaos/good/evil matrix and was actually lawful good?

I also recall images of male drow in the 2nd edition wearing fu manchu moustaches. In the arms and equipment manual there's an image of two male drow with thick moustaches standing over the corpse of a beholder they killed. I also seem to recall some of the original artwork for The Dark Elf Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore had Zaknafein with the same style of moustache. Perhaps the strange radiation the Drow use to empower their weapons and armor with quasi-mystical abilities also allow them to grow wicked awesome beards. You would think all that radiation would make them a lot less fertile though.

Although it's possible that when Vecna broke into Sigil and started rewriting the rules to the multiverse in order to make himself a overpower he took the time to retroactively remove all drow moustaches. Which was probably what gave the heroes enough time to stop him.
ADHadh
07-30-07, 05:25 PM A: The ears (i like them massive ears)

And I say YUCK! They're not elves anymore, they're donkeys or rabbits! And massive eyebrows is many steps to far.

I personally wouldn't allow facial hair on an elf in D&D, but I'm cool outside it.
Fake beard? I've imagined a Drow trying to disguise himself as a Duergar. Would like to see it :D
Eerongal
07-30-07, 05:38 PM Personally, i think this is more of a setting issue, especially since the bit about elves not having facial hair is in the descriptive text and thusly now allowed in the SRD. Meaning that by the RULES there's no reason an elf can't have facial hair. By the generic D&D campaign setting, they CANNOT have facial hair.

So in short, this is a 'consult your DM issue'. I personally think elves should be allowed to grow facial hair, however the society norm for them is to be clean-shaven.

Also, there's certainly nothing game breaking about letting you have facial hair, obviously. Unless, of course, you can somehow talk your DM into it giving you some kind of bonus. that way you can be all 'hey guys! check out of +1 beard of manly-tude! it totally gives me an awesome bonus on beard checks!'

Beard checks....hrm....I think i need to devise a new skill....
Orchomenos
07-30-07, 06:32 PM I like thinner ones that jet straight out, parallel to the ground.

http://www.shiroitsubasa.com/shiroitsubasa/deedlit_wall2.jpg

This is how I see Fey's ears. Elves are humanoids, after all, they just happen to have pointed ears, no facial or body hair, and to be unable to use greatswords, period. :P
SunTzuWarmaster
07-30-07, 06:46 PM Sure an elf can use a greatsword.

"Elf, bring me my Greatsword!"

edit: oh, was that the wrong thread?
Fealin_SpiritSong
08-03-07, 01:19 AM I thought that one drow (Jarlaxle?) had a short goatee or something to that measure. He was bald though so I guess it would work....kinda.
Lotusblossom
08-03-07, 01:32 AM Drits' dad has a goatee.
Drits later discovers that it's fake.
Bob Salvatore pronounces Drizzt "Drits", so there!
wolf_man007
08-03-07, 09:18 AM Only Small Elves can grow beards? Are you perhaps referring to GNOMES?!

High five!
Asra
08-03-07, 12:05 PM Well I for one think that the white goatees all those elves are sporting are just fungal growths! I say this because Drow eat mainly fungus, and perhaps they get some on their face, and just never notice.
RodinGates
08-03-07, 12:36 PM You know I recall in one session we ran our cleric of St Cuthbert picked up a ring from some felled gnolls and tried it on. It was a cursed ring of hair growth and caused him to grow a thick and bushy beard, which he had to shave everyday just so he could fit into his helmet.

If you want drow with facial hair always consider the fact that they could simply be cursed in such a faction. Hell, if the player in question wants to play a renegade consider that as a motivation for marking them as such. Perhaps little wispy mustaches and goatees are believed to be "Lolths silk", a way of marking traitors. That's an option.

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skywyze 07-28-07, 10:58 AM	Or any other elf for that matter? I've seen a few pictures of drow with beards, and Elfquest elves grow beards, except they have to be like a hundred years old. So what's the official stance?
EvilVegan 07-28-07, 11:10 AM	NO!
Asra 07-28-07, 11:27 AM	Elves don't have body hair, at all. I think they have eyebrows though.
skywyze 07-28-07, 11:31 AM	Is beard body hair?
CaoSlayer 07-28-07, 11:33 AM	Beards and pointy ears looks awful together. Proof: http://parttimeotaku.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/vlcsnap-1056271.jpg
skywyze 07-28-07, 11:34 AM	Ah, I actually found the answer to my own question: Elves have no facial or body hair.
penchant 07-28-07, 11:37 AM	Mirror Spock. Traditionally elves never had beards, though half elves can. This comes from LotR and is continued specifically through Dragon Lance as it was mentioned several times in those novels.
Asra 07-28-07, 11:37 AM	Lemme guess, thought a Drow with a goatee would look awesome? ;)
skywyze 07-28-07, 11:38 AM	Lemme guess, thought a Drow with a goatee would look awesome? ;)Nope, but we're in an all-drow campaign set in the UD, and I've been watching 300 once too many times. ;) Edit: I suppose it could be seen as a last desperate attempt to steer away from the famous elven femininity.
Asra 07-28-07, 11:44 AM	Many have tried to steer away from the Elves Femininity, thats how you got Kaorti! Your Drow could always wear a fake beard. Or if you want to be manly, cut out an eye and carry it on a string around your neck! Sure, the DM might impose a penalty, but the manliness would be worth it.
skywyze 07-28-07, 11:53 AM	Seriously considering cutting out both eyes and taking Blind-fighting to compensate. Maybe get a Blindfold of True Darkness. Where're the Kaorti from? Btw, don't get me wrong - I think the sneaky, shadowy, deviously clever drow are cool. It's just that they're elves. And the people we're gaming with are... How to put this politely... Well, some of them are very, very eager to prove their straightness... Which of course only can mean one thing. But I digress. So yeah, where're the kaorti from? Edit: Or maybe have both eyes lost to an illithid were-bear in a wrestling match. ponders Edit-edit: Isn't there a half-drow somewhere? Maybe he could be half-drow, half bear or something.
Asra 07-28-07, 12:02 PM	The Kaorti are from the fiend folio. They were a group of elves who were messing around with magical experiments, and wound up getting sucked up into the Far Realm, and turned manly/hideous. It turned them into Outsiders with some pretty great abilities, but they need to wear resin suits outside of their Kaorti Cysts to stay safe. You can do a search for them on Wizards, and you can find some adventures dealing with a Kaorti Ubercyst. http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ff_gallery/50125.jpg Theres their picture. Not very feminine at all. EDIT: Theres a half-drow somewhere. I think its in Races of Faerun.
skywyze 07-28-07, 12:06 PM	Hmm... Which is worse... Monster from the Far Realms or a Drow who dances like a girl? I will need to ponder this and see if our DM even allows Kaorti. The general rule is that we all need to play Drow, but I'm not sure how strict she'll be on enforcing that rule. We'll see.
skywyze 07-28-07, 12:10 PM	EDIT: Theres a half-drow somewhere. I think its in Races of Faerun.Oh yes, I see it now. They have the same stats as half-elves. Now I'm left with the dilemma of playing the weakest race in existance, or being a rouge-wearing ponce. ponders some more
Asra 07-28-07, 12:12 PM	You could always play a Drow with a template, I suppose. Or perhaps buy an Aboleth or Illithid Graft. Then you can be a plant in Drow Society! Uwah hah hah?
Meep326 07-28-07, 12:29 PM	If your DM allows it (huge LA, +5 ouch) you could use the Half-Ilithid Template from FF. Mmm... brains, if you don't want to take the LA hit, there's a feat chain in Complete Psionics that'll get you four tentacle attacks and let you eat teh brains.
The_Shaman 07-28-07, 01:00 PM	IIRC, drow do not generally grow beards. However, one in, say, ten thousand might be able to get more than 5 hairs on their chin. IIRC the Drizzt series had one of the Menzoberanzan weaponmasters - an unusually big and hulking male - with a goatee or something. What was his name, though... He was not of the Baenre, might have been the del'Armgo weaponmaster, Uthegentel. It's like bearded women - they may not be common, but every now and then genes mess up a little.
EvilVegan 07-28-07, 01:11 PM	A girdle of Masculinity on an elf male turns them into an orc.
key 07-28-07, 01:27 PM	From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees."
Orchomenos 07-28-07, 02:11 PM	You could be a Duergar merchant who somewhat befriend the rest of the all-drow party. Hard to be more manly than a duergar, even females are bald!
Asra 07-28-07, 02:15 PM	Duergar women are far more manly than normal Dwarven men. Truly a manly race to be admired...
Radijs 07-28-07, 03:22 PM	Lemme guess, thought a Drow with a goatee would look awesome? ;) Drow with ring-beards look awesome.
EvilVegan 07-28-07, 04:08 PM	From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees." NO! NO! NO!
Asra 07-28-07, 04:25 PM	I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf."
Beowulf8989 07-29-07, 12:25 AM	I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf." So... that means nine out of ten can grow beards? Awesome! Hmmm, all that's left is Drow tanks and explosive arrows.
zorgling25 07-29-07, 12:34 AM	On a slightly unrelated note, is there any official PC stats for a Draegloth (half-drow/half-fiend)? I know I could use a half-fiend template on a drow, but thats boring...
Aloki 07-29-07, 12:41 AM	Yes, they can. Only small ones though. In Forgotten Realms anyway...
ElberethSilverleaf 07-29-07, 03:20 AM	NO
EvilVegan 07-29-07, 08:26 AM	Yes, they can. Only small ones though. In Forgotten Realms anyway... Only Small Elves can grow beards? Are you perhaps referring to GNOMES?!
Mark_Aged 07-29-07, 08:38 AM	I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf." I'm guessing that there's an exception in the "elves can't have facial or body hair" rule for drow.
Khatoblepas 07-29-07, 08:43 AM	From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten thousand) are capable of growing facial hair, and often are beaten to death with it by the female drow clerics, who weave it into the shape of a whip, flaying him with his own facial hair. Matriarchal society, remember? Manliness is weak!" Fixed.
Aloki 07-29-07, 09:38 AM	I meant they can only grow small BEARDS For example http://www.scotttatman.com/images/scott_beard_headshot_small.jpg And what the gnomes have in the PHB This goes for ALL elves, and it is the same color as all their hair
Eikre 07-29-07, 09:46 AM	Nice picture. He stares into my soul. ...Soul!
The_Shaman 07-29-07, 02:47 PM	On a slightly unrelated note, is there any official PC stats for a Draegloth (half-drow/half-fiend)? I know I could use a half-fiend template on a drow, but thats boring... IIRC yes, check Champions of Ruin.
Phelix_the_Warrior 07-29-07, 10:12 PM	There are two things I like that Blizzard did with their elves (more in Warcraft than in WoW) and thats A: The ears (i like them massive ears) B: Small ammounts of facial hair, not a lot, but small ammounts like a small beard or a goatee ect. My Drow Wizard, before he went insane at an arena killed 50 civilians and was subsequently shot to death by crossbowmen, had a white goatee, and since they are the international facial hair of evil, works great on Drow
dknight100 07-29-07, 11:46 PM	From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees." For a moment, i thought it said "and others wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees"... Perhaps my mind is stuck on how classic a drow wearing a fake beard to make him more manly would be.
key 07-30-07, 12:46 AM	There are two things I like that Blizzard did with their elves (more in Warcraft than in WoW) and thats A: The ears (i like them massive ears) Do they all look like these? http://features.cgsociety.org/stories/2007_04/night_elf/banner01.jpg Those are borderline old man ears. I like thinner ones that jet straight out, parallel to the ground. http://www.shiroitsubasa.com/shiroitsubasa/deedlit_wall2.jpg
skywyze 07-30-07, 09:42 AM	Man, that's hot. Big ears are full of win. They have similar ears in Elfquest too, though they don't stand out from the head as much, and without the crazy eyebrows. Here's one with a beard. Kind of the elf I was trying to make when I found out you can't have facial hair as an elf in D&D. http://www.temp.sfbok.se/kat/img/20038.jpg Edit: Found a better pic.
pukunui 07-30-07, 04:56 PM	From Drow of the Underdark, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of growing facial hair, and often wear elaborate mustaches and/or goatees." I agree with EvilVegan. This is probably an error of WoTC, because we all know elves cannot have facial or body hair! I'm sure they'll errata this mistake and it will say something like, "Some male drow (roughly one in ten) are capable of never ever growing facial hair, no matter how much you want to break cannon by having a masculine looking elf." It predates WotC actually. I was recently perusing my old 2e Complete Book of Elves (TSR) and all the male drow in that book are depicted sporting Fu Manchu style moustaches ... I'll see if I can find an example ...
Oggutho 07-30-07, 05:19 PM	Would a drow with a goatee be even more evil? Would he be so evil that he flipped around the other side of the law/chaos/good/evil matrix and was actually lawful good? I also recall images of male drow in the 2nd edition wearing fu manchu moustaches. In the arms and equipment manual there's an image of two male drow with thick moustaches standing over the corpse of a beholder they killed. I also seem to recall some of the original artwork for The Dark Elf Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore had Zaknafein with the same style of moustache. Perhaps the strange radiation the Drow use to empower their weapons and armor with quasi-mystical abilities also allow them to grow wicked awesome beards. You would think all that radiation would make them a lot less fertile though. Although it's possible that when Vecna broke into Sigil and started rewriting the rules to the multiverse in order to make himself a overpower he took the time to retroactively remove all drow moustaches. Which was probably what gave the heroes enough time to stop him.
ADHadh 07-30-07, 05:25 PM	A: The ears (i like them massive ears) And I say YUCK! They're not elves anymore, they're donkeys or rabbits! And massive eyebrows is many steps to far. I personally wouldn't allow facial hair on an elf in D&D, but I'm cool outside it. Fake beard? I've imagined a Drow trying to disguise himself as a Duergar. Would like to see it :D
Eerongal 07-30-07, 05:38 PM	Personally, i think this is more of a setting issue, especially since the bit about elves not having facial hair is in the descriptive text and thusly now allowed in the SRD. Meaning that by the RULES there's no reason an elf can't have facial hair. By the generic D&D campaign setting, they CANNOT have facial hair. So in short, this is a 'consult your DM issue'. I personally think elves should be allowed to grow facial hair, however the society norm for them is to be clean-shaven. Also, there's certainly nothing game breaking about letting you have facial hair, obviously. Unless, of course, you can somehow talk your DM into it giving you some kind of bonus. that way you can be all 'hey guys! check out of +1 beard of manly-tude! it totally gives me an awesome bonus on beard checks!' Beard checks....hrm....I think i need to devise a new skill....
Orchomenos 07-30-07, 06:32 PM	I like thinner ones that jet straight out, parallel to the ground. http://www.shiroitsubasa.com/shiroitsubasa/deedlit_wall2.jpg This is how I see Fey's ears. Elves are humanoids, after all, they just happen to have pointed ears, no facial or body hair, and to be unable to use greatswords, period. :P
SunTzuWarmaster 07-30-07, 06:46 PM	Sure an elf can use a greatsword. "Elf, bring me my Greatsword!" edit: oh, was that the wrong thread?
Fealin_SpiritSong 08-03-07, 01:19 AM	I thought that one drow (Jarlaxle?) had a short goatee or something to that measure. He was bald though so I guess it would work....kinda.
Lotusblossom 08-03-07, 01:32 AM	Drits' dad has a goatee. Drits later discovers that it's fake. Bob Salvatore pronounces Drizzt "Drits", so there!
wolf_man007 08-03-07, 09:18 AM	Only Small Elves can grow beards? Are you perhaps referring to GNOMES?! High five!
Asra 08-03-07, 12:05 PM	Well I for one think that the white goatees all those elves are sporting are just fungal growths! I say this because Drow eat mainly fungus, and perhaps they get some on their face, and just never notice.
RodinGates 08-03-07, 12:36 PM	You know I recall in one session we ran our cleric of St Cuthbert picked up a ring from some felled gnolls and tried it on. It was a cursed ring of hair growth and caused him to grow a thick and bushy beard, which he had to shave everyday just so he could fit into his helmet. If you want drow with facial hair always consider the fact that they could simply be cursed in such a faction. Hell, if the player in question wants to play a renegade consider that as a motivation for marking them as such. Perhaps little wispy mustaches and goatees are believed to be "Lolths silk", a way of marking traitors. That's an option.