Dvati & Incarnum [Archive] - Wizards Community

Dvati & Incarnum [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Bob Loblaw
02-25-07, 09:02 PM I was thinking of playing some sort of incarnum character and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how the dvati (from Dragon Compendium) works with this.

It seems like this may be a way for me to get around the magic item problem of having to share gear. I was thinking that they would only have one pool of essentia that must be split between them, just like spells.

Is there anything I may be missing or things I may want to watch out for?
kadeity
02-26-07, 07:35 AM Most people dont know what Dvati are on these boards.
Its obvious that Dragon magazine is pretty ignored around these parts.

your lucky though. i know what they are and have dm'ed the crap out of them.
i also wrote a post about Dvati and all the published classes.
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=11181006#post11181006

As for your question, i adress it in that link but ill repost it here.

Dvati share a SOUL so they also SHARE ESSENTIA. However, its like your character has 2x as many chakras of each type. You can use essentia to bind a soulmeld to either dvati... but your always using the same essentia pool. However a good tactic is to take advantage of having twice as many chakras.

See you as a character have one soul and only so much essentia. However, since you have two bodies, you have 2x as many chakras. you can bind 2 soulmelds to the heart chakra, one on each body. Or one to each throat chakra. Or just one soulmeld to one throat chakra, and wear a magic item on the other character.

got it?
JiCi
02-26-07, 08:15 AM Too bad you don't get that many soulmelds to bind.

Another alternative is to rule that each twin share the same charkas, and that if one twin shapes and binds a soulmeld, the other twin obtains it as well.
kadeity
02-26-07, 08:20 AM Too bad you don't get that many soulmelds to bind.

Another alternative is to rule that each twin share the same charkas, and that if one twin shapes and binds a soulmeld, the other twin obtains it as well.

dunno how id feel about that one.

Id think that they could pass off a soulmeld to another twin with an unoccupied chakra using their magic conductor type ability....

however since bonuses from the same sort of source dont stack, i would assume that you cant get twice as many soulmelds from the normal essentia.

i mean your making the soulmelds from the essentia, so how are you gonna double the product without doubling the material put into it.

also, as with spells, both dvati should have to spend the actions to meldshape.
klode_me
02-26-07, 09:53 AM A necrocarnate incarnate with heart of incarnum...
Nice!
Figures though: Would they share the HP gaines by some soulmelds or will the possesing body gain the HP?
And what about the planar ward, would that protect both bodies of possesion and the like... I wonder...

cheers
Richmud
02-26-07, 10:08 AM I'd say though they may have double of all the other chakras they only have one soul chakra as they only have one soul. I would say they both share the benefit of the single soul chakra but not of any of the others. However they should be able to pass soulmelds in the same manor they can pass a spell
kadeity
02-26-07, 02:51 PM I'd say though they may have double of all the other chakras they only have one soul chakra as they only have one soul. I would say they both share the benefit of the single soul chakra but not of any of the others. However they should be able to pass soulmelds in the same manor they can pass a spell

Exactly.
Zumarai
02-27-07, 04:43 AM I'd say though they may have double of all the other chakras they only have one soul chakra as they only have one soul. I would say they both share the benefit of the single soul chakra but not of any of the others. However they should be able to pass soulmelds in the same manor they can pass a spell

While that's really cool/interesting way to go about it, I think it might be a little too convoluted.

It should be a little more cut and dried, like spells.
Bob Loblaw
02-27-07, 10:05 AM Thanks for all the work you've done on this. I read the other thread you linked to and I hadn't thought about everything you came up with.

This race seems cool, but potentially difficult to implement. I'm going to compile all the rule interpretations you've come up with and send them to my DM to see what he thinks.

Keep the ideas coming. I won't have time to actually come up with any solid questions until Thursday or Friday when I get the time to focus on character creation.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bob Loblaw 02-25-07, 09:02 PM	I was thinking of playing some sort of incarnum character and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how the dvati (from Dragon Compendium) works with this. It seems like this may be a way for me to get around the magic item problem of having to share gear. I was thinking that they would only have one pool of essentia that must be split between them, just like spells. Is there anything I may be missing or things I may want to watch out for?
kadeity 02-26-07, 07:35 AM	Most people dont know what Dvati are on these boards. Its obvious that Dragon magazine is pretty ignored around these parts. your lucky though. i know what they are and have dm'ed the crap out of them. i also wrote a post about Dvati and all the published classes. http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=11181006#post11181006 As for your question, i adress it in that link but ill repost it here. Dvati share a SOUL so they also SHARE ESSENTIA. However, its like your character has 2x as many chakras of each type. You can use essentia to bind a soulmeld to either dvati... but your always using the same essentia pool. However a good tactic is to take advantage of having twice as many chakras. See you as a character have one soul and only so much essentia. However, since you have two bodies, you have 2x as many chakras. you can bind 2 soulmelds to the heart chakra, one on each body. Or one to each throat chakra. Or just one soulmeld to one throat chakra, and wear a magic item on the other character. got it?
JiCi 02-26-07, 08:15 AM	Too bad you don't get that many soulmelds to bind. Another alternative is to rule that each twin share the same charkas, and that if one twin shapes and binds a soulmeld, the other twin obtains it as well.
kadeity 02-26-07, 08:20 AM	Too bad you don't get that many soulmelds to bind. Another alternative is to rule that each twin share the same charkas, and that if one twin shapes and binds a soulmeld, the other twin obtains it as well. dunno how id feel about that one. Id think that they could pass off a soulmeld to another twin with an unoccupied chakra using their magic conductor type ability.... however since bonuses from the same sort of source dont stack, i would assume that you cant get twice as many soulmelds from the normal essentia. i mean your making the soulmelds from the essentia, so how are you gonna double the product without doubling the material put into it. also, as with spells, both dvati should have to spend the actions to meldshape.
klode_me 02-26-07, 09:53 AM	A necrocarnate incarnate with heart of incarnum... Nice! Figures though: Would they share the HP gaines by some soulmelds or will the possesing body gain the HP? And what about the planar ward, would that protect both bodies of possesion and the like... I wonder... cheers
Richmud 02-26-07, 10:08 AM	I'd say though they may have double of all the other chakras they only have one soul chakra as they only have one soul. I would say they both share the benefit of the single soul chakra but not of any of the others. However they should be able to pass soulmelds in the same manor they can pass a spell
kadeity 02-26-07, 02:51 PM	I'd say though they may have double of all the other chakras they only have one soul chakra as they only have one soul. I would say they both share the benefit of the single soul chakra but not of any of the others. However they should be able to pass soulmelds in the same manor they can pass a spell Exactly.
Zumarai 02-27-07, 04:43 AM	I'd say though they may have double of all the other chakras they only have one soul chakra as they only have one soul. I would say they both share the benefit of the single soul chakra but not of any of the others. However they should be able to pass soulmelds in the same manor they can pass a spell While that's really cool/interesting way to go about it, I think it might be a little too convoluted. It should be a little more cut and dried, like spells.
Bob Loblaw 02-27-07, 10:05 AM	Thanks for all the work you've done on this. I read the other thread you linked to and I hadn't thought about everything you came up with. This race seems cool, but potentially difficult to implement. I'm going to compile all the rule interpretations you've come up with and send them to my DM to see what he thinks. Keep the ideas coming. I won't have time to actually come up with any solid questions until Thursday or Friday when I get the time to focus on character creation.