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YamiShinobi
03-12-08, 03:39 PM Dwuorcs (Pronounced Dorks)
+6 strength +6 constitution +2 dexterity -6 intellegence -6 wisdom -6 charisma, dwuorcs are the prime of physical fitness ut aren’t that mentally capable, and they are barbaric

Darkvision out to 60 feet

Proficiency with dwarven waraxe (1handed or 2handed) and greataxe (2handed) all dwuorcs master the axe at early ages in the defense of their homes, in exchange for one eyed kronk’s leadership

Powerful build as creatures of 1 size larger for weapons, carrying capacity and grappling (as goliath ability) dwuorcs take pride in their strength

Enlarge person 3/day as an 8th level caster. as a spell like ability (self only) (caster level never grows), this stacks with their powerful build

Immunity to poisons and diseases of all kinds, even magical and supernatural ones

base land speed 30 feet

medium size

Illiteracy, dwuorcs are illititerate, they must spend 4 skills points to become literate, they cannot becoe literate by taking class levels, decipher script and forgery are never class skills for them, they have no written language

Favored class: barbarian

+10 racial bonus on intimidate checks, +4 racial bonus on appraise checks made involving metal and stone
Improved Stonecunning (as earth dwarf in unearthed arcana, +4 instead of+2) -4 penalty on diplomacy checks

+4 natural armor bonus to armor class

Double strength modifier to 2hand weapons (instead of 1 ½ mod)

Level adjustment +4

languages (spoken only) Dwuorc ( a spoken pidgeon of dwarf and orc) bonus languages, common, terran, undercommon, dwarf, orc

Dwuorcs are the spawn of an unwilling coalition between dwarved and orcs, though more repulsive than either, they are beyond barbaric, Dwuorcs cannot keep their hands off of anything they can take on, they believe only in slaughter and chaos, they are always chaotic evil, they have no pantheon of religion, they are a shamanistic culture, they worship one eyed kronk, their head shaman who grants them leadership with chaotic freedom, they cannot stand corellan or moradin, they are tall, stocky, muscular, hairy, bearded, unkempt and they smell of sweat and blood, they are black haired, grey skinned red eyed and wear clothing that would be revealing enough to show their inhumanely large buff bodies (all muscle)

Finally, a dwarf/orc hybrid for the barbarian lovers
Shiftkitty
03-12-08, 03:50 PM Gotta do something about the pronunciation. I can just see the looks on my party's faces when I tell them they've been set upon by a bunch of dorks...:D !
M-bark
03-12-08, 03:55 PM First off, it's been done before. And I vaguely recall the name to be similar.

Second, it's way too powerful for an LA+2. It's more like an LA+4 or +5.
YamiShinobi
03-12-08, 04:03 PM First off, it's been done before. And I vaguely recall the name to be similar.

Second, it's way too powerful for an LA+2. It's more like an LA+4 or +5.

everything synergizes with barbarian, it is the worst spellcaster ever, i have seen better L.A.+2 races, intimidate isn't that powerful of a skill. nor is the feature of improved stonecunning, i guess i could bump it up to LA+3. it was intended as a race to combat PC's, they wouldn't need much wealth. the race itself is a 2hand barbarian fix, as well as 2hand power attack fighter fix, the race is no more powerful than beowulf, hercules, or a spartan
(strength enhancements are overkill at level 12 and below but balance at 15+)
M-bark
03-12-08, 04:15 PM everything synergizes with barbarian, it is the worst spellcaster ever, i have seen better L.A.+2 races, intimidate isn't that powerful of a skill. nor is the feature of improved stonecunning, i guess i could bump it up to LA+3.

And because everything synergizes with barbarian, nobody is going to want to play a barbarian of any other race but this one. +6 in a single stat alone typically warrants an LA of +1. You've got high bonuses in all physical stats and low penalties in all mental stats. Have you read the part in the DMG about creating races and read through all playable official races? +2 in one stat and -2 in another is still fairly balanced. +2 in either Dex or Str can be balanced by a -2 in a different physical stat or -2 in two mental stats.

Furthermore, they get Darkvision 120 feet. Now off the top of my head, the only playable race I know who gets that are Drow. And maybe Duergar or Svirfneblin. All with a good LA.

Then there's Powerful Build. You shouldn't underestimate it, it's powerful. Hence why it's called that way. It alone usually warrants an LA (unless it's balanced out, of course). And with Enlarge Person 3/day added to that (for which you did not state the Caster Level, by the by), they could wield a Huge Greataxe. Which is incredible. Really incredible. Especially if you take the double Strength mod on two-handers with it, too.

Then there's also some good natural armour and immunities.

Put an ECL 20 Barbarian of this race (Barbarian level 17, +3 LA) against any level 20 spellcaster and I would put my money on the barbarian. Seriously.

Also note that figures such as 300's Leonidas, Beowulf and Hercules are pretty much all Epic.
YamiShinobi
03-12-08, 04:25 PM bumped up the L.A. to +4 and raised the mental penalties. The Half anything templates give more for the same or less L.A.
M-bark
03-12-08, 04:36 PM I was also thinking of the Half-Outsider templates when I saw this race. They give more SLAs, but their ability bonuses are more spread out and overall lower than the bonuses presented here (not counting the penalties, merely the bonuses). But they also are more general, they don't necessarily fit one role better than another. Paladin and Cleric not counted, of course. Races or templates that make a character more focused for a specific purpose, class, or role generally warrant a slightly bigger LA than a more general one. The only reason the Half-Dragon doesn't have a higher LA than a Half-Celestial is because it doesn't get all that much besides it's breath weapon, type change and super-strength.

Spellcasters generally do not want LA, and sole fighter types don't really care for it. Still, if I ever see an Enlarged Dwuorc PC Barbarian or worse, a Frenzied Berzerker with a Huge Greataxe coming at me, I'll turn around and start running with my tail between my legs while I cry out in a girlish voice to beg the gods to have mercy.

By the by, I think it's good now. The stats are a bit more balanced and the LA is high enough. Still, you forgot a favoured class. May I suggest Barbarian? :D
YamiShinobi
03-12-08, 04:49 PM it's supposed to make barbarians intimidating again, oh yeah, a Dwuorc scares even Dwarves and Orcs, even goliaths wet thier pants in fear. elves pray for thier safety, only to have it left up to one eyed kronk, (the only intellegent Dwuorc, he is their head shaman) elf women ae even more afraid of the Dwuorc tribes, never bring an elf woman to a dwuorc tribe. never bring humans there either. nymphs and other fey flee when they sense these shamanistic barbarians, as do elves, humans, and the other feminine races.
YamiShinobi
03-12-08, 04:52 PM I was also thinking of the Half-Outsider templates when I saw this race. They give more SLAs, but their ability bonuses are more spread out and overall lower than the bonuses presented here (not counting the penalties, merely the bonuses). But they also are more general, they don't necessarily fit one role better than another. Paladin and Cleric not counted, of course. Races or templates that make a character more focused for a specific purpose, class, or role generally warrant a slightly bigger LA than a more general one. The only reason the Half-Dragon doesn't have a higher LA than a Half-Celestial is because it doesn't get all that much besides it's breath weapon, type change and super-strength.

Spellcasters generally do not want LA, and sole fighter types don't really care for it. Still, if I ever see an Enlarged Dwuorc PC Barbarian or worse, a Frenzied Berzerker with a Huge Greataxe coming at me, I'll turn around and start running with my tail between my legs while I cry out in a girlish voice to beg the gods to have mercy.

By the by, I think it's good now. The stats are a bit more balanced and the LA is high enough. Still, you forgot a favoured class. May I suggest Barbarian? :D

they already favor the barbarian. coming from a series of shamanistic tribes that worship one eyed kronk. (thier head shaman, whom they call Kronk when they meet him in person.)
M-bark
03-12-08, 04:52 PM So... there are women more masculine than Orcish ones?
YamiShinobi
03-12-08, 04:54 PM So... there are women more masculine than Orcish ones?

much more masculine than orcs, thier manly urges (both male and female) are crazy, thier impulses are left unssupressed.

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YamiShinobi 03-12-08, 03:39 PM	Dwuorcs (Pronounced Dorks) +6 strength +6 constitution +2 dexterity -6 intellegence -6 wisdom -6 charisma, dwuorcs are the prime of physical fitness ut aren’t that mentally capable, and they are barbaric Darkvision out to 60 feet Proficiency with dwarven waraxe (1handed or 2handed) and greataxe (2handed) all dwuorcs master the axe at early ages in the defense of their homes, in exchange for one eyed kronk’s leadership Powerful build as creatures of 1 size larger for weapons, carrying capacity and grappling (as goliath ability) dwuorcs take pride in their strength Enlarge person 3/day as an 8th level caster. as a spell like ability (self only) (caster level never grows), this stacks with their powerful build Immunity to poisons and diseases of all kinds, even magical and supernatural ones base land speed 30 feet medium size Illiteracy, dwuorcs are illititerate, they must spend 4 skills points to become literate, they cannot becoe literate by taking class levels, decipher script and forgery are never class skills for them, they have no written language Favored class: barbarian +10 racial bonus on intimidate checks, +4 racial bonus on appraise checks made involving metal and stone Improved Stonecunning (as earth dwarf in unearthed arcana, +4 instead of+2) -4 penalty on diplomacy checks +4 natural armor bonus to armor class Double strength modifier to 2hand weapons (instead of 1 ½ mod) Level adjustment +4 languages (spoken only) Dwuorc ( a spoken pidgeon of dwarf and orc) bonus languages, common, terran, undercommon, dwarf, orc Dwuorcs are the spawn of an unwilling coalition between dwarved and orcs, though more repulsive than either, they are beyond barbaric, Dwuorcs cannot keep their hands off of anything they can take on, they believe only in slaughter and chaos, they are always chaotic evil, they have no pantheon of religion, they are a shamanistic culture, they worship one eyed kronk, their head shaman who grants them leadership with chaotic freedom, they cannot stand corellan or moradin, they are tall, stocky, muscular, hairy, bearded, unkempt and they smell of sweat and blood, they are black haired, grey skinned red eyed and wear clothing that would be revealing enough to show their inhumanely large buff bodies (all muscle) Finally, a dwarf/orc hybrid for the barbarian lovers
Shiftkitty 03-12-08, 03:50 PM	Gotta do something about the pronunciation. I can just see the looks on my party's faces when I tell them they've been set upon by a bunch of dorks...:D !
M-bark 03-12-08, 03:55 PM	First off, it's been done before. And I vaguely recall the name to be similar. Second, it's way too powerful for an LA+2. It's more like an LA+4 or +5.
YamiShinobi 03-12-08, 04:03 PM	First off, it's been done before. And I vaguely recall the name to be similar. Second, it's way too powerful for an LA+2. It's more like an LA+4 or +5. everything synergizes with barbarian, it is the worst spellcaster ever, i have seen better L.A.+2 races, intimidate isn't that powerful of a skill. nor is the feature of improved stonecunning, i guess i could bump it up to LA+3. it was intended as a race to combat PC's, they wouldn't need much wealth. the race itself is a 2hand barbarian fix, as well as 2hand power attack fighter fix, the race is no more powerful than beowulf, hercules, or a spartan (strength enhancements are overkill at level 12 and below but balance at 15+)
M-bark 03-12-08, 04:15 PM	everything synergizes with barbarian, it is the worst spellcaster ever, i have seen better L.A.+2 races, intimidate isn't that powerful of a skill. nor is the feature of improved stonecunning, i guess i could bump it up to LA+3. And because everything synergizes with barbarian, nobody is going to want to play a barbarian of any other race but this one. +6 in a single stat alone typically warrants an LA of +1. You've got high bonuses in all physical stats and low penalties in all mental stats. Have you read the part in the DMG about creating races and read through all playable official races? +2 in one stat and -2 in another is still fairly balanced. +2 in either Dex or Str can be balanced by a -2 in a different physical stat or -2 in two mental stats. Furthermore, they get Darkvision 120 feet. Now off the top of my head, the only playable race I know who gets that are Drow. And maybe Duergar or Svirfneblin. All with a good LA. Then there's Powerful Build. You shouldn't underestimate it, it's powerful. Hence why it's called that way. It alone usually warrants an LA (unless it's balanced out, of course). And with Enlarge Person 3/day added to that (for which you did not state the Caster Level, by the by), they could wield a Huge Greataxe. Which is incredible. Really incredible. Especially if you take the double Strength mod on two-handers with it, too. Then there's also some good natural armour and immunities. Put an ECL 20 Barbarian of this race (Barbarian level 17, +3 LA) against any level 20 spellcaster and I would put my money on the barbarian. Seriously. Also note that figures such as 300's Leonidas, Beowulf and Hercules are pretty much all Epic.
YamiShinobi 03-12-08, 04:25 PM	bumped up the L.A. to +4 and raised the mental penalties. The Half anything templates give more for the same or less L.A.
M-bark 03-12-08, 04:36 PM	I was also thinking of the Half-Outsider templates when I saw this race. They give more SLAs, but their ability bonuses are more spread out and overall lower than the bonuses presented here (not counting the penalties, merely the bonuses). But they also are more general, they don't necessarily fit one role better than another. Paladin and Cleric not counted, of course. Races or templates that make a character more focused for a specific purpose, class, or role generally warrant a slightly bigger LA than a more general one. The only reason the Half-Dragon doesn't have a higher LA than a Half-Celestial is because it doesn't get all that much besides it's breath weapon, type change and super-strength. Spellcasters generally do not want LA, and sole fighter types don't really care for it. Still, if I ever see an Enlarged Dwuorc PC Barbarian or worse, a Frenzied Berzerker with a Huge Greataxe coming at me, I'll turn around and start running with my tail between my legs while I cry out in a girlish voice to beg the gods to have mercy. By the by, I think it's good now. The stats are a bit more balanced and the LA is high enough. Still, you forgot a favoured class. May I suggest Barbarian? :D
YamiShinobi 03-12-08, 04:49 PM	it's supposed to make barbarians intimidating again, oh yeah, a Dwuorc scares even Dwarves and Orcs, even goliaths wet thier pants in fear. elves pray for thier safety, only to have it left up to one eyed kronk, (the only intellegent Dwuorc, he is their head shaman) elf women ae even more afraid of the Dwuorc tribes, never bring an elf woman to a dwuorc tribe. never bring humans there either. nymphs and other fey flee when they sense these shamanistic barbarians, as do elves, humans, and the other feminine races.
YamiShinobi 03-12-08, 04:52 PM	I was also thinking of the Half-Outsider templates when I saw this race. They give more SLAs, but their ability bonuses are more spread out and overall lower than the bonuses presented here (not counting the penalties, merely the bonuses). But they also are more general, they don't necessarily fit one role better than another. Paladin and Cleric not counted, of course. Races or templates that make a character more focused for a specific purpose, class, or role generally warrant a slightly bigger LA than a more general one. The only reason the Half-Dragon doesn't have a higher LA than a Half-Celestial is because it doesn't get all that much besides it's breath weapon, type change and super-strength. Spellcasters generally do not want LA, and sole fighter types don't really care for it. Still, if I ever see an Enlarged Dwuorc PC Barbarian or worse, a Frenzied Berzerker with a Huge Greataxe coming at me, I'll turn around and start running with my tail between my legs while I cry out in a girlish voice to beg the gods to have mercy. By the by, I think it's good now. The stats are a bit more balanced and the LA is high enough. Still, you forgot a favoured class. May I suggest Barbarian? :D they already favor the barbarian. coming from a series of shamanistic tribes that worship one eyed kronk. (thier head shaman, whom they call Kronk when they meet him in person.)
M-bark 03-12-08, 04:52 PM	So... there are women more masculine than Orcish ones?
YamiShinobi 03-12-08, 04:54 PM	So... there are women more masculine than Orcish ones? much more masculine than orcs, thier manly urges (both male and female) are crazy, thier impulses are left unssupressed.