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Druss_of_The_Sword
06-20-07, 09:59 AM In my campaign i killed off the elves as part of what the players need to do. I mean they gotta figure out what happened to them anyone know how i can really screw with them on this point?
runestar
06-20-07, 10:04 AM Ignore - posted to wrong thread.
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-20-07, 10:05 AM ? wat do you mean ?
dfarnsworth
06-20-07, 10:12 AM Would need more information on how you killed the elves, when you killed the elves, and maybe why the elves are dead?
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-20-07, 10:16 AM well for starters the elves were killed at the begining of the campaign. theyve been dieing for id say 100 years and there is only one town left that no one is allowed in or out of but i had to edit this because a bastard in my party decided to be an elf so there are very very small villages around that town. no one knows how they died and i killed them for two reasons
1. As something interesting that no one in my group had done b4
2. Im a half orc barbarian in my friends campaign and they locked me in prison without me doing anything.
they dont know how they were killed they need to figure that out by themselves.
dfarnsworth
06-20-07, 10:27 AM Well, the elves could be dieing from a curse that centers around infertility and poor constitution.
They could be having they're life forces drained to either keep an ancient entity they originally imprisoned imprisoned or perhaps just because they make good batteries for eldritch machines.
Maybe not just the elves are dying off? Maybe other races are being affected and hostilities are beginning between them and another race?
As a red herring have a servant of an elder evil trying to break it's master free of the Far Realm and is sacrificing elves to build power or impregnate female elves as incubators for some terrible spawn of the Far Realm. (Gotta Love the Far Realm.)

It all depends on the flavor you want.
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-20-07, 10:32 AM i like it.
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-20-07, 10:53 AM any idea what i could use as the spawn?
AllWillFall2Me
06-20-07, 01:42 PM Kythons. From the BOVD. Think Alien. Or to be more specific, or at least better understood, the aliens in Aliens v Predators.
bhu
06-20-07, 02:07 PM Eaten by Gnomes.
Demon Lightfoot
06-20-07, 04:43 PM any idea what i could use as the spawn?

Pseudonatural Beholders.
Jalkator
06-20-07, 05:58 PM Ignore. Somebody was messing with the computer.
Peregrine_Wolf
06-20-07, 06:24 PM Bad DM, BAD! No kill elves, they think of new shiny things, dwarves make new shiny things, and humans take new shiny things, then halfings steal new shiny things, then half-orcs never think about new shiny other than "It hits worser than other new shiny thing!", and gnomes then find new shiny thing and tinker with it until it's a broken new shiny thing.

Don't mess with the balance, for without this balance, there will be no new shiny things.

Actually your not a bad DM, I just like elves a lot.....

But.....if you REALLY wanna kill off the elves, I suggest that some race of monsters that your PC's know next to ntohing about has class levels in Ranger- Favored Enemy:Elves......problem solved :weep:
skydin
06-20-07, 08:15 PM go for the impregnated to bring forth spawn idea. the spawn? richard simmons, hundreds of thousands of richard simmons'. THAT would screw with the players heads for sure. as an added bonus, about half of the richard simmons' are female, but look exactly like the males.
suparman999
06-21-07, 07:36 AM R-Richard Simmons? OMIGOD NO! THAT'S THE MOST TERRIFYING THING I'V EVER READ! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! YOU HAVE A SICK, EVIL MIND! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! *falls screaming and curls up into a fetal position in the corner, quietly sobbing to himself and mumbling something about Oldies and Shoggoth and a yellow sign.*
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-21-07, 11:52 AM that has to be the most evil thing ive ever heard said. how'd you come up with that? tell me some more things. I told a friend(not in the group) about it he nearly died! Im so making richard simmons the main villain now!
mtbOgre
06-21-07, 12:03 PM In my campaign i killed off the elves as part of what the players need to do. I mean they gotta figure out what happened to them anyone know how i can really screw with them on this point?

There were 400 elves in the community but they were all different sub races and they were too proud to interbreed.

Alternately you could just give them small pox on infected blankets. No reason some mundane threat couldn't have wiped them out.
Orchomenos
06-21-07, 12:31 PM I think the best idea is a curse.

Elves are usually slightly central in a campaign world. Ok, they live in their reclusive forest city, but these forest are not "that" far, there's always some traders coming to and from, and there's always some elven adventurers in any town of any size. Should a race decide to perform an elven genocid, it could be of two kinds:
1) The LE way. (Read the Nazi way). You invade the land, you take control of everything, you bring the elves to some place where you killed them all. But elves are spreaded in a large area, if that was done 100 years ago, most people should remember.
2) The CE way. Waves and waves of orcs invade the elven lands and destroy everything, then leave. But I doubt orcs would simply destroy elven towns, but no other towns. Once again, if something like that happened 100 years ago, most people should remember.

A fertility problem take time, elves can live thousand years. And whatever anyone think, they are intelligent enough to realise that after 500 years, there was no newborn, and that we have only a few centuries to find a cure.

The evil cult sacrificing elves and using females as incubators has the same problems. After one town has been destroy, elves are intelligent enough to see they should do something.

Or perhaps is it a mix of all this. Some cultists spread false informations about elves, and force towns to adopt anti-elves politics. The cultists invade a city, sacrifice many elves, and in one year, there's no more elves in this city. Due to the misinformation and general hatred, no one really know or care, and it's hard for the elves to travel, so it's hard to send reinforcement.
As a defence, elven elders create a demi-plane, where the elves could live in peace. The portal is locked in an elven city, home to no more than 2000 elves; no one knows that this city truely shelters more than 100 000 elves...

100 years later, no one really remember why they hated the elves. Elders say the elves were rascals, and they should have made something bad. Some might remind the evil cultist and the destroyed city, but the information on them is even more imprecise than on the elves. Even more, it is rumored the destroyed city is now a cursed/haunted place, and no one put the feet there in 100 years.
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-21-07, 12:49 PM I think the best idea is a curse.

Elves are usually slightly central in a campaign world. Ok, they live in their reclusive forest city, but these forest are not "that" far, there's always some traders coming to and from, and there's always some elven adventurers in any town of any size. Should a race decide to perform an elven genocid, it could be of two kinds:
1) The LE way. (Read the Nazi way). You invade the land, you take control of everything, you bring the elves to some place where you killed them all. But elves are spreaded in a large area, if that was done 100 years ago, most people should remember.
2) The CE way. Waves and waves of orcs invade the elven lands and destroy everything, then leave. But I doubt orcs would simply destroy elven towns, but no other towns. Once again, if something like that happened 100 years ago, most people should remember.

A fertility problem take time, elves can live thousand years. And whatever anyone think, they are intelligent enough to realise that after 500 years, there was no newborn, and that we have only a few centuries to find a cure.

The evil cult sacrificing elves and using females as incubators has the same problems. After one town has been destroy, elves are intelligent enough to see they should do something.

Or perhaps is it a mix of all this. Some cultists spread false informations about elves, and force towns to adopt anti-elves politics. The cultists invade a city, sacrifice many elves, and in one year, there's no more elves in this city. Due to the misinformation and general hatred, no one really know or care, and it's hard for the elves to travel, so it's hard to send reinforcement.
As a defence, elven elders create a demi-plane, where the elves could live in peace. The portal is locked in an elven city, home to no more than 2000 elves; no one knows that this city truely shelters more than 100 000 elves...

100 years later, no one really remember why they hated the elves. Elders say the elves were rascals, and they should have made something bad. Some might remind the evil cultist and the destroyed city, but the information on them is even more imprecise than on the elves. Even more, it is rumored the destroyed city is now a cursed/haunted place, and no one put the feet there in 100 years.

well i see your point. but even if they realize somethings wrong and try to do something about it, there is nothing saying they'll succeed. and they wouldnt ask the other races for help because they would be paranoid and if their enemies(such as orcs,trolls,and other evil things) got word that there is an unknown entity that was slowly destroying them from the inside out then whats the first thing those things would do? wait for them to grow powerful again or attack while their weak?
dfarnsworth
06-21-07, 03:23 PM And whose to say they haven't been dying out for a few centuries?
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-21-07, 03:28 PM to wipe out an entire nation would take centuries. and it could have taken any amount of time. they could have just stopped interacting with other people afraid with what would happen.
CaoSlayer
06-21-07, 03:35 PM Grumush was able to beat Coleron and steal the race stone of the elves so he is now using dark power for cursing the elves.
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-21-07, 03:41 PM Grumush was able to beat Coleron and steal the race stone of the elves so he is now using dark power for cursing the elves.

that sounds good and he could wipe them out quickly and quietly but how does one kill a god?
Peregrine_Wolf
06-21-07, 05:44 PM Read OotS.....bout halfway through the story they answer that. Also, it might be in teh book taht says you gotta kill a demi-god person thing to get DR x =)
Treymordin
06-21-07, 06:20 PM Maybe they are not dead but going to another world or plane?
Holy_Beholder
06-21-07, 09:45 PM Maybe they were all turned into Lawrence Williams. Then the rest of the civilized races hunted them down as they began to twist the world into evil.
Druss_of_The_Sword
06-22-07, 12:34 PM ok im going to go with the resurecting ancient evil and demon spawn(Richard Simmons) idea. thanx for all the ideas guys but dont need help anymore.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-20-07, 09:59 AM	In my campaign i killed off the elves as part of what the players need to do. I mean they gotta figure out what happened to them anyone know how i can really screw with them on this point?
runestar 06-20-07, 10:04 AM	Ignore - posted to wrong thread.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-20-07, 10:05 AM	? wat do you mean ?
dfarnsworth 06-20-07, 10:12 AM	Would need more information on how you killed the elves, when you killed the elves, and maybe why the elves are dead?
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-20-07, 10:16 AM	well for starters the elves were killed at the begining of the campaign. theyve been dieing for id say 100 years and there is only one town left that no one is allowed in or out of but i had to edit this because a bastard in my party decided to be an elf so there are very very small villages around that town. no one knows how they died and i killed them for two reasons 1. As something interesting that no one in my group had done b4 2. Im a half orc barbarian in my friends campaign and they locked me in prison without me doing anything. they dont know how they were killed they need to figure that out by themselves.
dfarnsworth 06-20-07, 10:27 AM	Well, the elves could be dieing from a curse that centers around infertility and poor constitution. They could be having they're life forces drained to either keep an ancient entity they originally imprisoned imprisoned or perhaps just because they make good batteries for eldritch machines. Maybe not just the elves are dying off? Maybe other races are being affected and hostilities are beginning between them and another race? As a red herring have a servant of an elder evil trying to break it's master free of the Far Realm and is sacrificing elves to build power or impregnate female elves as incubators for some terrible spawn of the Far Realm. (Gotta Love the Far Realm.) It all depends on the flavor you want.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-20-07, 10:32 AM	i like it.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-20-07, 10:53 AM	any idea what i could use as the spawn?
AllWillFall2Me 06-20-07, 01:42 PM	Kythons. From the BOVD. Think Alien. Or to be more specific, or at least better understood, the aliens in Aliens v Predators.
bhu 06-20-07, 02:07 PM	Eaten by Gnomes.
Demon Lightfoot 06-20-07, 04:43 PM	any idea what i could use as the spawn? Pseudonatural Beholders.
Jalkator 06-20-07, 05:58 PM	Ignore. Somebody was messing with the computer.
Peregrine_Wolf 06-20-07, 06:24 PM	Bad DM, BAD! No kill elves, they think of new shiny things, dwarves make new shiny things, and humans take new shiny things, then halfings steal new shiny things, then half-orcs never think about new shiny other than "It hits worser than other new shiny thing!", and gnomes then find new shiny thing and tinker with it until it's a broken new shiny thing. Don't mess with the balance, for without this balance, there will be no new shiny things. Actually your not a bad DM, I just like elves a lot..... But.....if you REALLY wanna kill off the elves, I suggest that some race of monsters that your PC's know next to ntohing about has class levels in Ranger- Favored Enemy:Elves......problem solved :weep:
skydin 06-20-07, 08:15 PM	go for the impregnated to bring forth spawn idea. the spawn? richard simmons, hundreds of thousands of richard simmons'. THAT would screw with the players heads for sure. as an added bonus, about half of the richard simmons' are female, but look exactly like the males.
suparman999 06-21-07, 07:36 AM	R-Richard Simmons? OMIGOD NO! THAT'S THE MOST TERRIFYING THING I'V EVER READ! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! YOU HAVE A SICK, EVIL MIND! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! falls screaming and curls up into a fetal position in the corner, quietly sobbing to himself and mumbling something about Oldies and Shoggoth and a yellow sign.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-21-07, 11:52 AM	that has to be the most evil thing ive ever heard said. how'd you come up with that? tell me some more things. I told a friend(not in the group) about it he nearly died! Im so making richard simmons the main villain now!
mtbOgre 06-21-07, 12:03 PM	In my campaign i killed off the elves as part of what the players need to do. I mean they gotta figure out what happened to them anyone know how i can really screw with them on this point? There were 400 elves in the community but they were all different sub races and they were too proud to interbreed. Alternately you could just give them small pox on infected blankets. No reason some mundane threat couldn't have wiped them out.
Orchomenos 06-21-07, 12:31 PM	I think the best idea is a curse. Elves are usually slightly central in a campaign world. Ok, they live in their reclusive forest city, but these forest are not "that" far, there's always some traders coming to and from, and there's always some elven adventurers in any town of any size. Should a race decide to perform an elven genocid, it could be of two kinds: 1) The LE way. (Read the Nazi way). You invade the land, you take control of everything, you bring the elves to some place where you killed them all. But elves are spreaded in a large area, if that was done 100 years ago, most people should remember. 2) The CE way. Waves and waves of orcs invade the elven lands and destroy everything, then leave. But I doubt orcs would simply destroy elven towns, but no other towns. Once again, if something like that happened 100 years ago, most people should remember. A fertility problem take time, elves can live thousand years. And whatever anyone think, they are intelligent enough to realise that after 500 years, there was no newborn, and that we have only a few centuries to find a cure. The evil cult sacrificing elves and using females as incubators has the same problems. After one town has been destroy, elves are intelligent enough to see they should do something. Or perhaps is it a mix of all this. Some cultists spread false informations about elves, and force towns to adopt anti-elves politics. The cultists invade a city, sacrifice many elves, and in one year, there's no more elves in this city. Due to the misinformation and general hatred, no one really know or care, and it's hard for the elves to travel, so it's hard to send reinforcement. As a defence, elven elders create a demi-plane, where the elves could live in peace. The portal is locked in an elven city, home to no more than 2000 elves; no one knows that this city truely shelters more than 100 000 elves... 100 years later, no one really remember why they hated the elves. Elders say the elves were rascals, and they should have made something bad. Some might remind the evil cultist and the destroyed city, but the information on them is even more imprecise than on the elves. Even more, it is rumored the destroyed city is now a cursed/haunted place, and no one put the feet there in 100 years.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-21-07, 12:49 PM	I think the best idea is a curse. Elves are usually slightly central in a campaign world. Ok, they live in their reclusive forest city, but these forest are not "that" far, there's always some traders coming to and from, and there's always some elven adventurers in any town of any size. Should a race decide to perform an elven genocid, it could be of two kinds: 1) The LE way. (Read the Nazi way). You invade the land, you take control of everything, you bring the elves to some place where you killed them all. But elves are spreaded in a large area, if that was done 100 years ago, most people should remember. 2) The CE way. Waves and waves of orcs invade the elven lands and destroy everything, then leave. But I doubt orcs would simply destroy elven towns, but no other towns. Once again, if something like that happened 100 years ago, most people should remember. A fertility problem take time, elves can live thousand years. And whatever anyone think, they are intelligent enough to realise that after 500 years, there was no newborn, and that we have only a few centuries to find a cure. The evil cult sacrificing elves and using females as incubators has the same problems. After one town has been destroy, elves are intelligent enough to see they should do something. Or perhaps is it a mix of all this. Some cultists spread false informations about elves, and force towns to adopt anti-elves politics. The cultists invade a city, sacrifice many elves, and in one year, there's no more elves in this city. Due to the misinformation and general hatred, no one really know or care, and it's hard for the elves to travel, so it's hard to send reinforcement. As a defence, elven elders create a demi-plane, where the elves could live in peace. The portal is locked in an elven city, home to no more than 2000 elves; no one knows that this city truely shelters more than 100 000 elves... 100 years later, no one really remember why they hated the elves. Elders say the elves were rascals, and they should have made something bad. Some might remind the evil cultist and the destroyed city, but the information on them is even more imprecise than on the elves. Even more, it is rumored the destroyed city is now a cursed/haunted place, and no one put the feet there in 100 years. well i see your point. but even if they realize somethings wrong and try to do something about it, there is nothing saying they'll succeed. and they wouldnt ask the other races for help because they would be paranoid and if their enemies(such as orcs,trolls,and other evil things) got word that there is an unknown entity that was slowly destroying them from the inside out then whats the first thing those things would do? wait for them to grow powerful again or attack while their weak?
dfarnsworth 06-21-07, 03:23 PM	And whose to say they haven't been dying out for a few centuries?
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-21-07, 03:28 PM	to wipe out an entire nation would take centuries. and it could have taken any amount of time. they could have just stopped interacting with other people afraid with what would happen.
CaoSlayer 06-21-07, 03:35 PM	Grumush was able to beat Coleron and steal the race stone of the elves so he is now using dark power for cursing the elves.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-21-07, 03:41 PM	Grumush was able to beat Coleron and steal the race stone of the elves so he is now using dark power for cursing the elves. that sounds good and he could wipe them out quickly and quietly but how does one kill a god?
Peregrine_Wolf 06-21-07, 05:44 PM	Read OotS.....bout halfway through the story they answer that. Also, it might be in teh book taht says you gotta kill a demi-god person thing to get DR x =)
Treymordin 06-21-07, 06:20 PM	Maybe they are not dead but going to another world or plane?
Holy_Beholder 06-21-07, 09:45 PM	Maybe they were all turned into Lawrence Williams. Then the rest of the civilized races hunted them down as they began to twist the world into evil.
Druss_of_The_Sword 06-22-07, 12:34 PM	ok im going to go with the resurecting ancient evil and demon spawn(Richard Simmons) idea. thanx for all the ideas guys but dont need help anymore.