Granting a racial ability [Archive] - Wizards Community

Granting a racial ability [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Wulfgast
06-19-07, 12:22 AM Just a quick question -- is anyone aware of a way to grant a character a racial trait that they wouldn't normally qualify for, either through magic items, feats, or some other form of trickery? It can't just be an LA, because the character already exists. If it helps, I'm trying to figure out how to get Powerful Build on a warforged. I'd like to get him qualifying for Knockback without being large.

Many thanks in advance. I have tons of books, but no idea where to start looking for something like this.
Rerecros
06-19-07, 01:00 AM I don't know a way within RAW, but you could just ask your DM to allow you to play a powerfuly built 'forged. Personally, I would allow if you could explain it. Here's the explaination I would use;
Explorers in xen'drik brought back a bizarre gollem which was taken by House Cannith and reverse engineered into the warforged. You are an early prototype and was rendered inert until awakened by Merrix for experimentation, but you escaped into a strange world where people expext you to be some kind of soldier for a war you never heard of.
Mentar
06-19-07, 01:12 AM The spell permanency works on enlarge person, I don't know if there is an enlarge construct spell, but if not your DM may allow a spell caster in your group to research one and have it work the same.

Because you stated the character already exists, rewriting it could be a problem, but the addition of magic items or spells to increase your size may work.
There is a problem with either of these, anti-magic fields would make you loose the size and use of the feats that depend on it.

The other option you may look at is the Warforged Charger from the MMIII.
Wulfgast
06-19-07, 10:30 AM All good ideas -- I especially like the storyline idea you had, Rerecros. But as Mentar mentioned, I've already started playing this character, so I don't think there's a way to get Powerful Build in there without some heavy DM bribing. He's been pretty generous so far, so I probably won't even push for it. That also means the Charger is out of the question at this point, too.

The easiest solution at this point, I think, would be to slap Brutal Surge on his weapon. Not as useful as Knockback, but it works.

Here was another idea, although bordering on cheesy -- the Strongarm Bracers allow you to wield a weapon one size category larger than normal, which is the same effect granted by Powerful Build (correct me if I'm wrong). Could that fulfill the prerequisite for Knockback? I somehow doubt it, personally.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Wulfgast 06-19-07, 12:22 AM	Just a quick question -- is anyone aware of a way to grant a character a racial trait that they wouldn't normally qualify for, either through magic items, feats, or some other form of trickery? It can't just be an LA, because the character already exists. If it helps, I'm trying to figure out how to get Powerful Build on a warforged. I'd like to get him qualifying for Knockback without being large. Many thanks in advance. I have tons of books, but no idea where to start looking for something like this.
Rerecros 06-19-07, 01:00 AM	I don't know a way within RAW, but you could just ask your DM to allow you to play a powerfuly built 'forged. Personally, I would allow if you could explain it. Here's the explaination I would use; Explorers in xen'drik brought back a bizarre gollem which was taken by House Cannith and reverse engineered into the warforged. You are an early prototype and was rendered inert until awakened by Merrix for experimentation, but you escaped into a strange world where people expext you to be some kind of soldier for a war you never heard of.
Mentar 06-19-07, 01:12 AM	The spell permanency works on enlarge person, I don't know if there is an enlarge construct spell, but if not your DM may allow a spell caster in your group to research one and have it work the same. Because you stated the character already exists, rewriting it could be a problem, but the addition of magic items or spells to increase your size may work. There is a problem with either of these, anti-magic fields would make you loose the size and use of the feats that depend on it. The other option you may look at is the Warforged Charger from the MMIII.
Wulfgast 06-19-07, 10:30 AM	All good ideas -- I especially like the storyline idea you had, Rerecros. But as Mentar mentioned, I've already started playing this character, so I don't think there's a way to get Powerful Build in there without some heavy DM bribing. He's been pretty generous so far, so I probably won't even push for it. That also means the Charger is out of the question at this point, too. The easiest solution at this point, I think, would be to slap Brutal Surge on his weapon. Not as useful as Knockback, but it works. Here was another idea, although bordering on cheesy -- the Strongarm Bracers allow you to wield a weapon one size category larger than normal, which is the same effect granted by Powerful Build (correct me if I'm wrong). Could that fulfill the prerequisite for Knockback? I somehow doubt it, personally.