Halfings with a bonus starting feat?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Halfings with a bonus starting feat?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
sevenaya
11-08-07, 04:23 PM I seem to remember there being a halfling race with a bonus starting feat, am I right?
Trachmyr
11-08-07, 04:34 PM Strongheart Halflings in FR. They lose the +1 to all saves though.
AtsuiShoto
11-09-07, 01:40 AM Totally worth it. Just an opinion.
foxtail
11-09-07, 09:34 AM Unless you need a different halfling subrace for your backstory, there's really no reason not to play a Strongheart. Want that bonus to saves back? Just spend the bonus feat on Luck of Heroes.
jradd777
11-10-07, 12:06 AM Is luck of heroes better? Or is it just negating the fact that you get a bonus feat?

Get what I mean..?
Grizzled Gryphon
11-10-07, 02:53 AM Yeah, pretty much. Why use the Strongheart if you are going to use the feat to get what other halflings have? Might as well just use the other kinds of halflings.
foxtail
11-10-07, 02:58 AM My point being that with that option on the table, core halflings are left without a raison d'etre; at least from a mechanics standpoint.

Also, if your campaign uses the optional retraining rules from PH2, the Strongheart leaves the door open to switch out that feat at some point. Which gives it a tiny, cheesy, yet tangible advantage.
jradd777
11-10-07, 05:57 AM My point being that with that option on the table, core halflings are left without a raison d'etre; at least from a mechanics standpoint.

Also, if your campaign uses the optional retraining rules from PH2, the Strongheart leaves the door open to switch out that feat at some point. Which gives it a tiny, cheesy, yet tangible advantage.

Right, ok, that makes more sense, we've never used the retraining rules before so I never would have thought of that. I agree that there's really little reason beyond flavor to not use Stronghearts; it was just the way you said it was funny.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sevenaya 11-08-07, 04:23 PM	I seem to remember there being a halfling race with a bonus starting feat, am I right?
Trachmyr 11-08-07, 04:34 PM	Strongheart Halflings in FR. They lose the +1 to all saves though.
AtsuiShoto 11-09-07, 01:40 AM	Totally worth it. Just an opinion.
foxtail 11-09-07, 09:34 AM	Unless you need a different halfling subrace for your backstory, there's really no reason not to play a Strongheart. Want that bonus to saves back? Just spend the bonus feat on Luck of Heroes.
jradd777 11-10-07, 12:06 AM	Is luck of heroes better? Or is it just negating the fact that you get a bonus feat? Get what I mean..?
Grizzled Gryphon 11-10-07, 02:53 AM	Yeah, pretty much. Why use the Strongheart if you are going to use the feat to get what other halflings have? Might as well just use the other kinds of halflings.
foxtail 11-10-07, 02:58 AM	My point being that with that option on the table, core halflings are left without a raison d'etre; at least from a mechanics standpoint. Also, if your campaign uses the optional retraining rules from PH2, the Strongheart leaves the door open to switch out that feat at some point. Which gives it a tiny, cheesy, yet tangible advantage.
jradd777 11-10-07, 05:57 AM	My point being that with that option on the table, core halflings are left without a raison d'etre; at least from a mechanics standpoint. Also, if your campaign uses the optional retraining rules from PH2, the Strongheart leaves the door open to switch out that feat at some point. Which gives it a tiny, cheesy, yet tangible advantage. Right, ok, that makes more sense, we've never used the retraining rules before so I never would have thought of that. I agree that there's really little reason beyond flavor to not use Stronghearts; it was just the way you said it was funny.