Helbred languages.... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Helbred languages.... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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enygmatic_me
03-29-07, 10:28 PM There is another thread about the Hellbred right now that brought to my attention that Helbred speak all languages they knew in their former life. So, does this mean a former Druid who was once Helbred can speak Druidic?

Seems like an easy path to Fochlucan Lyrist if that is the case.
Lazaro
03-30-07, 12:45 AM I would have to say no, unless the Hellbred is a druid.
Perun
03-30-07, 02:02 AM There is another thread about the Hellbred right now that brought to my attention that Helbred speak all languages they knew in their former life. So, does this mean a former Druid who was once Helbred can speak Druidic?

Seems like an easy path to Fochlucan Lyrist if that is the case.

The whole sentence about hellbred languages known is silly. Everyone would be playing former grey/sun elves with Int 20, for those five extra languages. it's not like the languages actually matter, or anything... Right? :P

I'd say a hellbred knows languages he knew in his former life, but up to his current Int modifier. That means that even if he was a former Int 20 grey elf who spoke Common, Elven, and five other languages, but now has Int 13 as a hellbred, he'd get to pick one language (aside from Common) out of six (elven + five others). And druidic would be off the list, even if the grey elf was actually a druid.

But, I suppose I'm talking house-rules here.

I guess, by the RAW, a player could pick about any dozen languages he wanted, including the restricted ones. Who can say his character wasn't an epic character in his previous life :P

Regards.
enygmatic_me
03-30-07, 02:38 AM I have to think that this situation is something the designers just didn't consider at the time of creating the Hellbred.

If this is the case, then in a RAW run game Fochlucan Lyrist would be accessible by a Bard/Cleric with the right domains.

In a FR campaign a Cleric with the right domains and the Harper Priest PrC (if I'm remembering correctly) would also qualify as Harper Priest grants a Bardic Knowledge-esque ability.

Could make some interesting NPC's, not so sure I want my players to know though.
Ventilatory_Threshold
03-30-07, 12:45 PM Personally, I wouldn't care if a Hellbred knew every language there is.

"So, wait... you can talk to Archons, Devils, Demons, Elves, Dwarves, Halflings AND Fire Elementals!? In their native tongues? You god damn munchkin! Rocks fall! Everybody dies!"

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
enygmatic_me 03-29-07, 10:28 PM	There is another thread about the Hellbred right now that brought to my attention that Helbred speak all languages they knew in their former life. So, does this mean a former Druid who was once Helbred can speak Druidic? Seems like an easy path to Fochlucan Lyrist if that is the case.
Lazaro 03-30-07, 12:45 AM	I would have to say no, unless the Hellbred is a druid.
Perun 03-30-07, 02:02 AM	There is another thread about the Hellbred right now that brought to my attention that Helbred speak all languages they knew in their former life. So, does this mean a former Druid who was once Helbred can speak Druidic? Seems like an easy path to Fochlucan Lyrist if that is the case. The whole sentence about hellbred languages known is silly. Everyone would be playing former grey/sun elves with Int 20, for those five extra languages. it's not like the languages actually matter, or anything... Right? :P I'd say a hellbred knows languages he knew in his former life, but up to his current Int modifier. That means that even if he was a former Int 20 grey elf who spoke Common, Elven, and five other languages, but now has Int 13 as a hellbred, he'd get to pick one language (aside from Common) out of six (elven + five others). And druidic would be off the list, even if the grey elf was actually a druid. But, I suppose I'm talking house-rules here. I guess, by the RAW, a player could pick about any dozen languages he wanted, including the restricted ones. Who can say his character wasn't an epic character in his previous life :P Regards.
enygmatic_me 03-30-07, 02:38 AM	I have to think that this situation is something the designers just didn't consider at the time of creating the Hellbred. If this is the case, then in a RAW run game Fochlucan Lyrist would be accessible by a Bard/Cleric with the right domains. In a FR campaign a Cleric with the right domains and the Harper Priest PrC (if I'm remembering correctly) would also qualify as Harper Priest grants a Bardic Knowledge-esque ability. Could make some interesting NPC's, not so sure I want my players to know though.
Ventilatory_Threshold 03-30-07, 12:45 PM	Personally, I wouldn't care if a Hellbred knew every language there is. "So, wait... you can talk to Archons, Devils, Demons, Elves, Dwarves, Halflings AND Fire Elementals!? In their native tongues? You god damn munchkin! Rocks fall! Everybody dies!"