Help needed assigning LA's to homebrewed goblins. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Help needed assigning LA's to homebrewed goblins. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Devil Gnasher
09-20-07, 01:11 AM Since I've already posted my homebrewed elf racial variant I'm now about to post my version of goblinkind. Just tell me what you think.

Goblins

Physical Character and Miscellaneous

Type: Fey.
Build: Short and thin, around 50-60 pounds.
Coloring: Grayish pink skin and black hair, which turns white later in life.
Endurance: Impressive. Goblins can stay awake up to 20 hours a day and can travel at a rate of 40 miles per day without rest, provided they maintain a moderate pace.
Height: 3-4 feet in height
Lifespan: See elves
Resistance: See elves.
Special Abilities: +6 to Intelligence, +2 to Wisdom, +4 to Constitution, +2 to Dexterity, -4 to Charisma and a -4 to Strength. Instead of the typical weapons proficiencies goblins gain the ability to cast arcane spells equal to a first level wizard. This grants goblins one wizard level for the purposes of spellcasting. They still require spellbooks like any other wizard. In addition goblins can employ a small number of spell like abilities. These powers are mage hand 2/day, knock and detect magic 4/day and read magic at will. They also are expert gusmiths and shipbuilders, gaining a +4 bonus to Craft (firearms) as well as a +6 to Craft (shipbuilding).

Culture

Clothing and Decoration: Plain, modest, and dark colored. A good source for goblin clothing can be found in that of puritan garments.
Fears and Inabilities: None.
Marriage Pattern: Monogomous. The line is traced through the male.
Religion: Can be thought of as combination of ancient Celtic religion and Calvinism.

Other Factors

Demeanor and Alignment: Dour, serious, fanitcal, grim, and conservative. Distrusting and verbally cruel towards those they consider heretics, outsiders, infidels, or apostates. Note: the vast majority of elves are seen as heretics in the eyes of their goblin cousins. As for alignment, usually Lawful Neutral. However some goblins overcome their own bigotries and become a rather grim Lawful Good.
Prejudices: Many, but those will be adressed later.
Languages: Goblin, Dwarven, and two human.
Political System: Goblin kind is ruled by an elected Parliament and a hereditary Lord Protector.
Classes: Bards are rare but those who do exist are usually Lawful and serve choir directors or composers of Hymns and other religious music. Goblin paladins tend to follow a take no prisoners philosophy when fighting truly evil characters such as murderers, rapists, traitors, crime lords and pedophiles. Archivists function as ministers. Sorcerors and psion viritually non-existant.
Suitable Starting Classes: All core accept barbarian, monk, soul knife, psychic warrior and core druid. Artificer, binder, modified druid (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=13843909#post13843909) and truenamer allowed.
Favored Class: Wizard
Favored Schools: Transmutation and Evocation
Level Adjustment: +2
wizardguy2003
09-20-07, 01:29 AM I would think atleast a +3. One for the combined unbalanced +6 to abilities, one for the 1st level of wizard spells, and another for thier spell like abilities.
Devil Gnasher
09-20-07, 01:37 AM I would think atleast a +3. One for the combined unbalanced +6 to abilities, one for the 1st level of wizard spells, and another for thier spell like abilities.

Makes sense, thank you. I think I'm done.
Devil Gnasher
09-20-07, 01:38 AM Other than the balance questions I want to know what every one thinks about this race's basic flavor.
Return of the Flumph
09-20-07, 11:49 AM I would say LA +2, actually. The SLA's aren't all that powerful.

As for the flavor, their leader has to be a LE crusader named Gobliver Hobwel.
Devil Gnasher
09-20-07, 01:37 PM I would say LA +2, actually. The SLA's aren't all that powerful.

As for the flavor, their leader has to be a LE crusader named Gobliver Hobwel.

While I like the idea of a Lawful Evil Oliver Cromwell like leader for the goblins I will have to give him a more serious name. But thank you any way.:)
Archangel_Tyrael
09-20-07, 01:58 PM +4
Return of the Flumph
09-20-07, 07:50 PM While I like the idea of a Lawful Evil Oliver Cromwell like leader for the goblins I will have to give him a more serious name. But thank you any way.:)

You basically described them as English puritans. It seemed only natural.
Devil Gnasher
09-20-07, 10:25 PM You basically described them as English puritans. It seemed only natural.

Yes they are English Puritians and they will use English naming conventions. I just want to give them more serious names, that's all.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Devil Gnasher 09-20-07, 01:11 AM	Since I've already posted my homebrewed elf racial variant I'm now about to post my version of goblinkind. Just tell me what you think. Goblins Physical Character and Miscellaneous Type: Fey. Build: Short and thin, around 50-60 pounds. Coloring: Grayish pink skin and black hair, which turns white later in life. Endurance: Impressive. Goblins can stay awake up to 20 hours a day and can travel at a rate of 40 miles per day without rest, provided they maintain a moderate pace. Height: 3-4 feet in height Lifespan: See elves Resistance: See elves. Special Abilities: +6 to Intelligence, +2 to Wisdom, +4 to Constitution, +2 to Dexterity, -4 to Charisma and a -4 to Strength. Instead of the typical weapons proficiencies goblins gain the ability to cast arcane spells equal to a first level wizard. This grants goblins one wizard level for the purposes of spellcasting. They still require spellbooks like any other wizard. In addition goblins can employ a small number of spell like abilities. These powers are mage hand 2/day, knock and detect magic 4/day and read magic at will. They also are expert gusmiths and shipbuilders, gaining a +4 bonus to Craft (firearms) as well as a +6 to Craft (shipbuilding). Culture Clothing and Decoration: Plain, modest, and dark colored. A good source for goblin clothing can be found in that of puritan garments. Fears and Inabilities: None. Marriage Pattern: Monogomous. The line is traced through the male. Religion: Can be thought of as combination of ancient Celtic religion and Calvinism. Other Factors Demeanor and Alignment: Dour, serious, fanitcal, grim, and conservative. Distrusting and verbally cruel towards those they consider heretics, outsiders, infidels, or apostates. Note: the vast majority of elves are seen as heretics in the eyes of their goblin cousins. As for alignment, usually Lawful Neutral. However some goblins overcome their own bigotries and become a rather grim Lawful Good. Prejudices: Many, but those will be adressed later. Languages: Goblin, Dwarven, and two human. Political System: Goblin kind is ruled by an elected Parliament and a hereditary Lord Protector. Classes: Bards are rare but those who do exist are usually Lawful and serve choir directors or composers of Hymns and other religious music. Goblin paladins tend to follow a take no prisoners philosophy when fighting truly evil characters such as murderers, rapists, traitors, crime lords and pedophiles. Archivists function as ministers. Sorcerors and psion viritually non-existant. Suitable Starting Classes: All core accept barbarian, monk, soul knife, psychic warrior and core druid. Artificer, binder, modified druid (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=13843909#post13843909) and truenamer allowed. Favored Class: Wizard Favored Schools: Transmutation and Evocation Level Adjustment: +2
wizardguy2003 09-20-07, 01:29 AM	I would think atleast a +3. One for the combined unbalanced +6 to abilities, one for the 1st level of wizard spells, and another for thier spell like abilities.
Devil Gnasher 09-20-07, 01:37 AM	I would think atleast a +3. One for the combined unbalanced +6 to abilities, one for the 1st level of wizard spells, and another for thier spell like abilities. Makes sense, thank you. I think I'm done.
Devil Gnasher 09-20-07, 01:38 AM	Other than the balance questions I want to know what every one thinks about this race's basic flavor.
Return of the Flumph 09-20-07, 11:49 AM	I would say LA +2, actually. The SLA's aren't all that powerful. As for the flavor, their leader has to be a LE crusader named Gobliver Hobwel.
Devil Gnasher 09-20-07, 01:37 PM	I would say LA +2, actually. The SLA's aren't all that powerful. As for the flavor, their leader has to be a LE crusader named Gobliver Hobwel. While I like the idea of a Lawful Evil Oliver Cromwell like leader for the goblins I will have to give him a more serious name. But thank you any way.:)
Archangel_Tyrael 09-20-07, 01:58 PM	+4
Return of the Flumph 09-20-07, 07:50 PM	While I like the idea of a Lawful Evil Oliver Cromwell like leader for the goblins I will have to give him a more serious name. But thank you any way.:) You basically described them as English puritans. It seemed only natural.
Devil Gnasher 09-20-07, 10:25 PM	You basically described them as English puritans. It seemed only natural. Yes they are English Puritians and they will use English naming conventions. I just want to give them more serious names, that's all.