High Cha race/template? [Archive] - Wizards Community

High Cha race/template? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Aleolus
07-30-07, 03:00 AM OK, I'm gonna be getting into a Ravenloft campaign soon, and I want to play a Paladin. I'm wanting a race/template combination that will give me the highest possible bonus to Charisma possible, with the fewest penalties, and no more than a +1 LA, if possible. Best I've been able to come up with is a simple Aasimar, but I'm wanting the opinions of the official WotC forum before I finalize that.
IdleAltruism
07-30-07, 03:41 AM A draconic star elf would be +2 str +4cha LA+1.
Morka
07-30-07, 10:24 AM The feytouched (summarized here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040319a)) has +2WIS, +2CHA and wings for LA+1.
Aleolus
07-31-07, 02:41 AM A draconic star elf would be +2 str +4cha LA+1.

Sounds good, what book is that from?
IdleAltruism
07-31-07, 02:45 AM Star elf is in, The unapproachable east(faerun) I think anyway. The draconic template is in the draconomicon.
JulesCARV
07-31-07, 02:53 AM Phrenic (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/psionicMonsters.html#phenric-creature) is good. Admittedly, LA +2, but it gives a lot of quite solid benefits.
Argaud
07-31-07, 04:20 AM The feytouched (summarized here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040319a)) has +2WIS, +2CHA and wings for LA+1.
Actually that is the transition level from fey-touched to half-fey. Fey-touched get no wings.

The full templates are here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a).

Fey touched gives +2 Dexterity, -2 Constitution, +2 Charisma and a few other minor abilities for LA+1.

Half-fey gives +2 Dex and Wis, -2 Con and +4 Cha and a lot of cool stuff, including wings and many slas. It is a very nice template for LA+2.
Morka
07-31-07, 07:28 AM D'oh. I knew it was somewhere near, just not the right donut box...
AZNsupermarket
07-31-07, 09:23 AM Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to charisma:

Star Elf: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., otherworldly touch (su), extraplanar (su), bard, humanoid (elf), unapproachable east pg.10

Spellscale: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., sorcerer and same as base creature, humanoid (dragonblood), races of the dragon pg.21

Hellbred (Spirit): +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft, hellbound (su), spirit (su), paladin, humanoid (hellbred), Fiendish Codex II pg.78

Lesser Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191

Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, dragon (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39

You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to cha (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ability adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these.

Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5

Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.
The_Shaman
07-31-07, 09:31 AM I think a draconic template attached to a no-LA race is quite good for a LA+1. The template gives +2 to str, con and cha, as well as minor additional goodies - just what a paladin needs. The dragonblood subtype doesn't hurt much, either.
Cyphrus
07-31-07, 09:51 AM Personally I'm partial to a draconic lessar assiamar. Having +2str,con,wis and +4 cha. It's just beautiful.
AMGriffin
07-31-07, 12:21 PM Beautifully broken.

But if you can get away with it, more power to ya. That character would have a pretty interesting family tree huh?
Kesthol
08-01-07, 12:30 AM Nice, gotta try that one after my kobold bites the dust (as he, inevitably, will).
Gabriel Knight52
08-01-07, 01:13 AM Fire Souled Star Elf, CON-2, CHA+6, LVL+1

(Fire Souled Template, Dragon #314 p.23)
(Star Elf race, Unapproachable East p.9)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Aleolus 07-30-07, 03:00 AM	OK, I'm gonna be getting into a Ravenloft campaign soon, and I want to play a Paladin. I'm wanting a race/template combination that will give me the highest possible bonus to Charisma possible, with the fewest penalties, and no more than a +1 LA, if possible. Best I've been able to come up with is a simple Aasimar, but I'm wanting the opinions of the official WotC forum before I finalize that.
IdleAltruism 07-30-07, 03:41 AM	A draconic star elf would be +2 str +4cha LA+1.
Morka 07-30-07, 10:24 AM	The feytouched (summarized here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040319a)) has +2WIS, +2CHA and wings for LA+1.
Aleolus 07-31-07, 02:41 AM	A draconic star elf would be +2 str +4cha LA+1. Sounds good, what book is that from?
IdleAltruism 07-31-07, 02:45 AM	Star elf is in, The unapproachable east(faerun) I think anyway. The draconic template is in the draconomicon.
JulesCARV 07-31-07, 02:53 AM	Phrenic (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/psionicMonsters.html#phenric-creature) is good. Admittedly, LA +2, but it gives a lot of quite solid benefits.
Argaud 07-31-07, 04:20 AM	The feytouched (summarized here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040319a)) has +2WIS, +2CHA and wings for LA+1. Actually that is the transition level from fey-touched to half-fey. Fey-touched get no wings. The full templates are here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a). Fey touched gives +2 Dexterity, -2 Constitution, +2 Charisma and a few other minor abilities for LA+1. Half-fey gives +2 Dex and Wis, -2 Con and +4 Cha and a lot of cool stuff, including wings and many slas. It is a very nice template for LA+2.
Morka 07-31-07, 07:28 AM	D'oh. I knew it was somewhere near, just not the right donut box...
AZNsupermarket 07-31-07, 09:23 AM	Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to charisma: Star Elf: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., otherworldly touch (su), extraplanar (su), bard, humanoid (elf), unapproachable east pg.10 Spellscale: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., sorcerer and same as base creature, humanoid (dragonblood), races of the dragon pg.21 Hellbred (Spirit): +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft, hellbound (su), spirit (su), paladin, humanoid (hellbred), Fiendish Codex II pg.78 Lesser Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191 Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, dragon (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39 You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to cha (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ability adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these. Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5 Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.
The_Shaman 07-31-07, 09:31 AM	I think a draconic template attached to a no-LA race is quite good for a LA+1. The template gives +2 to str, con and cha, as well as minor additional goodies - just what a paladin needs. The dragonblood subtype doesn't hurt much, either.
Cyphrus 07-31-07, 09:51 AM	Personally I'm partial to a draconic lessar assiamar. Having +2str,con,wis and +4 cha. It's just beautiful.
AMGriffin 07-31-07, 12:21 PM	Beautifully broken. But if you can get away with it, more power to ya. That character would have a pretty interesting family tree huh?
Kesthol 08-01-07, 12:30 AM	Nice, gotta try that one after my kobold bites the dust (as he, inevitably, will).
Gabriel Knight52 08-01-07, 01:13 AM	Fire Souled Star Elf, CON-2, CHA+6, LVL+1 (Fire Souled Template, Dragon #314 p.23) (Star Elf race, Unapproachable East p.9)