Is This Balanced? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ToastedAmphibian

08-07-07, 04:43 PM
Do 5hd of "Animal" and the lack of hands balance well aginst the following penalty, or would further steps like LA be requiered to maintain balance?

+6str +8dex +4con +0int +2wis [-1 to -3] cha
Quadrapedal
speed 40, climb 20
bite 2xclaw
Improved grab
Pounce
Rake
Scent
Darkvision 60ft
+8 bonus jump/balace/climb
+4 bonus hide/movesilently

Bite and claw arnt necissarily all that powerful (Medium creature) and the lack of hands would make it hard to weild weapons (or open doors / dress yourself) so do you think this is balanced?
Frogmantis

08-07-07, 05:01 PM
well, if you were making this as a playable race, then yes, i'd say it needs quite a bit of LA. with all those bonuses to its stats, and 5 levels of animal (which would increase its ECL by 5), i'd say it needs a LA.
sensestaker

08-07-07, 07:03 PM
Based off your info I assume you're talking about an awakened jaguar. It definately would need an LA to balance. SS gives anthro jaguars an LA of +2, and I'd say that you're still looking at something similiar. Lack of hands also isn't that underpowering-more damage comes from ability mods and magic than base damage, and both can be applied to natural attacks, and why, as ana animal, would you need to dress yourself?
ToastedAmphibian

08-07-07, 07:35 PM
Based off your info I assume you're talking about an awakened jaguar. It definately would need an LA to balance. SS gives anthro jaguars an LA of +2, and I'd say that you're still looking at something similiar. Lack of hands also isn't that underpowering-more damage comes from ability mods and magic than base damage, and both can be applied to natural attacks, and why, as ana animal, would you need to dress yourself?


Jaguar? Where did you get stats for a Jaguar from? Also, and anthromorphic creature has hands, and thus, can put on rings belts magic cloaks gloves, ect all by itself. It can also open doors, pick locks, buy things, put things into and take them out of containers ect.

Would a 5lvl class that gave improved grab and pounce be over powered? Or do you think the lvl adjustment would primarily be requiered because of the stats?

And no, its a leopard! :}