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L.A. +0 outsiders (revised) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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YamiShinobi
12-09-07, 02:06 AM Tiefling

TIEFLING Type (humanoid, human)

Tieflings as Characters
Tiefling characters possess the following racial traits.
— +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, –2 Charisma. -2 strength
—Medium size.
—A tiefling’s base land speed is 30 feet.
—Darkvision out to 60 feet.
—Racial Skills: Tieflings have a +2 racial bonus on Escape artist, listen, spot and Hide checks.
—Automatic Languages: Common, Infernal. Bonus Languages: any
—Favored Class: Rogue.
la+0

Aasimaar Type Humanoid (human)

AASIMAR

Aasimar as Characters
Aasimar characters possess the following racial traits.
— +2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma. -2 strength -2 constitution
—Medium size.
—An aasimar’s base land speed is 30 feet.
—Darkvision: Aasimars can see in the dark up to 60 feet.
—Racial Skills: Aasimars have a +2 racial bonus on Spot, Search, heal and Listen checks.
—Automatic Languages: Common, Celestial. Bonus Languages: any
—Favored Class: Cleric
la+0

CATFOLK humanoid (feline)

— +2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma. -2 constitution
—Medium size.
—An Catoflk’s base land speed is 40 feet.
—Darkvision: Catfolk can see in the dark up to 60 feet.
—Racial Skills: Catfolk have a +2 racial bonus on Spot, Hide, gather information and Listen checks.
—Automatic Languages: Common, Feline. Bonus Languages: Any
Favored class: rogue
la+0

Nekogami humanoid (catgirl)

— +2 Dexterity, +2 intellegence. -2 strength -2 constitution
—Medium size.
—An nekogami’s base land speed is 40 feet.
—Darkvision: nekogami can see in the dark up to 60 feet.
—Racial Skills: nekogami have a +2 racial bonus on Spot, Hide, gather information and Listen checks.
—Racial Feats: a nekogami gains a bonus feat at 1st level
—Automatic Languages: Common, Feline. Bonus Languages: Any
_ a nekogami doesn't have middle aged, old or venerable age categories (they only have adult, and only after 10 years of development)
Favored class: rogue
la+0

HUMANS
- +2 to any 2 ability scores -2 to any one ability score ( cannot be same score, max 2 ability bonuses with a max 1 penalty)
- Medium: As Medium creatures, humans have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
- Human base land speed is 30 feet.
- 1 extra feat at 1st level.
- a human gains a +2 bonus on any 4 skills of choice
- Automatic Language: Common. Bonus Languages: Any
- Favored Class: Any.
la+0

Sprites Fey LA+1

Sprites as Characters
base ability adjustments
— –2 Strength, -2 constitution +2 Dexterity
Elemental bonus
Ignan (+2 Charisma) Auran (+4 dexterity instead of +2) Terran ( no strnegth penalty, no con penalty, keep dex bonus) Aquan (+2 wisdom) Celestial (+2 wisdom) Infernal (+2 intellegence)
—Medium size
—A sprites base land speed is 30 feet
—Low-light vision. (darkvision 120 feet as well a slight sensitivity for infernal)
—Skills: Sprites have a +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks.
—Special qualities
-names:
Celestial sprites (called divine sprites)
infernal sprites (called shadow sprites)
ignan sprites (called fire sprites)
aquan sprites (called water sprites)
Terran sprites (called wood sprites)
auran sprites (called aero sprites)
—Automatic Languages: Common, Sylvan. 1 elemetnal or aligment language of choice (aquan, ignan, aura, terran, clestial or infernal)
Bonus Languages: any
—Favored Class: Terran (druid) Auran (rogue) Aquan (druid) Ignan (cleric) Celestial (cleric) infernal (rogue)
_spell like abilites
celestial cure light wounds 3/day
infernal shadow jump 40 feet/day (stacks with shadowdancer class)
ignan fireball 3/day
aquan make rain 3/day or control water 3/day (player chooses)
auran lightning bolt 3/day
terran animate plants 3/day
la+1 for all six sprite elements
zook1shoe666
12-09-07, 11:07 AM TIEFLING LA +1
Aasimaar LA +1
CATFOLK LA +0 (powerful side)
Nekogami LA +0 (powerful side)
HUMAN LA +0
Sprites LA +1
larry_the_titan
12-09-07, 02:38 PM Sorry I don't like any of these creatures. Catfolk were Fine as LA+1 as written. Why on earth would a I want to play a creature that has less NA, Con, Dex, and Str. You also seem to be on a kick to give each creature an unusual amount of skill bonuses and what the heck are you going to do about Racial Bonus feats that don't exist.
HernetheHunter
12-09-07, 05:36 PM I am confused. Are you taking outsiders and making them LA+0 or ?

I am confused. Humans are already +0.
YamiShinobi
12-09-07, 08:16 PM I am confused. Are you taking outsiders and making them LA+0 or ?

I am confused. Humans are already +0.

i was trying to make tieflings/aasimaar/catfolk la+0
power up humans, and lower the godlike power of sprites and make them an actually playable fey. for tieflings an aasimaars, i added additional penalties, changed creature type to humanoid and removed energy resistance, elegible for a high end +0

humans are too weak on thier own, so i made them a little stronger and a little more customizable.
X0_Lt_0X
12-09-07, 08:45 PM yeah humans are powerful as is
The extra Feat is much more worth it then a +2 to one stat, -2 to another

the only bad thing about humans is they dont have a dark/low-light vision
Sinfire Titan
12-09-07, 08:50 PM Yeah humans are powerful as is
The extra Feat is much more worth it then a +2 to one stat, -2 to another

The only bad thing about humans is they don't have a dark/low-light vision

Which can be circumvented by any number of means. And nitpick fix.
X0_Lt_0X
12-09-07, 09:10 PM Which can be circumvented by any number of means. And nitpick fix.

exactly!!!
sigma999
12-09-07, 11:18 PM HAHA
Dudes, most LA+1 races like Feytouched, Tiefling and Aasimar could just use an LA reduction.
Good to go.
That's all.

Catfolk, maybe require a feat before they get one of their +2 to a stat and the Pounce, but otherwise OK.

Compare all of them to Elf and Dwarf.... those two PHB races are way more powerful, you'll see what I mean.
Sinfire Titan
12-10-07, 10:08 AM HAHA
Dudes, most LA+1 races like Feytouched, Tiefling and Aasimar could just use an LA reduction.
Good to go.
That's all.

Catfolk, maybe require a feat before they get one of their +2 to a stat and the Pounce, but otherwise OK.

Compare all of them to Elf and Dwarf.... those two PHB races are way more powerful, you'll see what I mean.

I hope you are accounting for the Planetouched races gaining energy resistance. I've seen many people overlook that fact.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
YamiShinobi 12-09-07, 02:06 AM	Tiefling TIEFLING Type (humanoid, human) Tieflings as Characters Tiefling characters possess the following racial traits. — +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, –2 Charisma. -2 strength —Medium size. —A tiefling’s base land speed is 30 feet. —Darkvision out to 60 feet. —Racial Skills: Tieflings have a +2 racial bonus on Escape artist, listen, spot and Hide checks. —Automatic Languages: Common, Infernal. Bonus Languages: any —Favored Class: Rogue. la+0 Aasimaar Type Humanoid (human) AASIMAR Aasimar as Characters Aasimar characters possess the following racial traits. — +2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma. -2 strength -2 constitution —Medium size. —An aasimar’s base land speed is 30 feet. —Darkvision: Aasimars can see in the dark up to 60 feet. —Racial Skills: Aasimars have a +2 racial bonus on Spot, Search, heal and Listen checks. —Automatic Languages: Common, Celestial. Bonus Languages: any —Favored Class: Cleric la+0 CATFOLK humanoid (feline) — +2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma. -2 constitution —Medium size. —An Catoflk’s base land speed is 40 feet. —Darkvision: Catfolk can see in the dark up to 60 feet. —Racial Skills: Catfolk have a +2 racial bonus on Spot, Hide, gather information and Listen checks. —Automatic Languages: Common, Feline. Bonus Languages: Any Favored class: rogue la+0 Nekogami humanoid (catgirl) — +2 Dexterity, +2 intellegence. -2 strength -2 constitution —Medium size. —An nekogami’s base land speed is 40 feet. —Darkvision: nekogami can see in the dark up to 60 feet. —Racial Skills: nekogami have a +2 racial bonus on Spot, Hide, gather information and Listen checks. —Racial Feats: a nekogami gains a bonus feat at 1st level —Automatic Languages: Common, Feline. Bonus Languages: Any _ a nekogami doesn't have middle aged, old or venerable age categories (they only have adult, and only after 10 years of development) Favored class: rogue la+0 HUMANS - +2 to any 2 ability scores -2 to any one ability score ( cannot be same score, max 2 ability bonuses with a max 1 penalty) - Medium: As Medium creatures, humans have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size. - Human base land speed is 30 feet. - 1 extra feat at 1st level. - a human gains a +2 bonus on any 4 skills of choice - Automatic Language: Common. Bonus Languages: Any - Favored Class: Any. la+0 Sprites Fey LA+1 Sprites as Characters base ability adjustments — –2 Strength, -2 constitution +2 Dexterity Elemental bonus Ignan (+2 Charisma) Auran (+4 dexterity instead of +2) Terran ( no strnegth penalty, no con penalty, keep dex bonus) Aquan (+2 wisdom) Celestial (+2 wisdom) Infernal (+2 intellegence) —Medium size —A sprites base land speed is 30 feet —Low-light vision. (darkvision 120 feet as well a slight sensitivity for infernal) —Skills: Sprites have a +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks. —Special qualities -names: Celestial sprites (called divine sprites) infernal sprites (called shadow sprites) ignan sprites (called fire sprites) aquan sprites (called water sprites) Terran sprites (called wood sprites) auran sprites (called aero sprites) —Automatic Languages: Common, Sylvan. 1 elemetnal or aligment language of choice (aquan, ignan, aura, terran, clestial or infernal) Bonus Languages: any —Favored Class: Terran (druid) Auran (rogue) Aquan (druid) Ignan (cleric) Celestial (cleric) infernal (rogue) _spell like abilites celestial cure light wounds 3/day infernal shadow jump 40 feet/day (stacks with shadowdancer class) ignan fireball 3/day aquan make rain 3/day or control water 3/day (player chooses) auran lightning bolt 3/day terran animate plants 3/day la+1 for all six sprite elements
zook1shoe666 12-09-07, 11:07 AM	TIEFLING LA +1 Aasimaar LA +1 CATFOLK LA +0 (powerful side) Nekogami LA +0 (powerful side) HUMAN LA +0 Sprites LA +1
larry_the_titan 12-09-07, 02:38 PM	Sorry I don't like any of these creatures. Catfolk were Fine as LA+1 as written. Why on earth would a I want to play a creature that has less NA, Con, Dex, and Str. You also seem to be on a kick to give each creature an unusual amount of skill bonuses and what the heck are you going to do about Racial Bonus feats that don't exist.
HernetheHunter 12-09-07, 05:36 PM	I am confused. Are you taking outsiders and making them LA+0 or ? I am confused. Humans are already +0.
YamiShinobi 12-09-07, 08:16 PM	I am confused. Are you taking outsiders and making them LA+0 or ? I am confused. Humans are already +0. i was trying to make tieflings/aasimaar/catfolk la+0 power up humans, and lower the godlike power of sprites and make them an actually playable fey. for tieflings an aasimaars, i added additional penalties, changed creature type to humanoid and removed energy resistance, elegible for a high end +0 humans are too weak on thier own, so i made them a little stronger and a little more customizable.
X0_Lt_0X 12-09-07, 08:45 PM	yeah humans are powerful as is The extra Feat is much more worth it then a +2 to one stat, -2 to another the only bad thing about humans is they dont have a dark/low-light vision
Sinfire Titan 12-09-07, 08:50 PM	Yeah humans are powerful as is The extra Feat is much more worth it then a +2 to one stat, -2 to another The only bad thing about humans is they don't have a dark/low-light vision Which can be circumvented by any number of means. And nitpick fix.
X0_Lt_0X 12-09-07, 09:10 PM	Which can be circumvented by any number of means. And nitpick fix. exactly!!!
sigma999 12-09-07, 11:18 PM	HAHA Dudes, most LA+1 races like Feytouched, Tiefling and Aasimar could just use an LA reduction. Good to go. That's all. Catfolk, maybe require a feat before they get one of their +2 to a stat and the Pounce, but otherwise OK. Compare all of them to Elf and Dwarf.... those two PHB races are way more powerful, you'll see what I mean.
Sinfire Titan 12-10-07, 10:08 AM	HAHA Dudes, most LA+1 races like Feytouched, Tiefling and Aasimar could just use an LA reduction. Good to go. That's all. Catfolk, maybe require a feat before they get one of their +2 to a stat and the Pounce, but otherwise OK. Compare all of them to Elf and Dwarf.... those two PHB races are way more powerful, you'll see what I mean. I hope you are accounting for the Planetouched races gaining energy resistance. I've seen many people overlook that fact.