Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Return of the Flumph 04-03-07, 05:40 PM	I'm looking for a 20 HD Outsider with ECL +2 or less.
jadehawk 04-03-07, 06:28 PM	I don't have my books with me as is, but maybe some advice would help. Can you take a creature with only a +2 level adjustment which normally has high hit dice, and add hit dice by the MM rules on Monster Progression to get it up to 20? You might have more chances finding one that way.
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-03-07, 09:08 PM	No such thing. I assume you mean Level Adjustment, not ECL, right? Anyways, this has 20 Hit Dice with +0 LA: http://www.kobolds-keep.net/Progressions.pdf
Captain_Kobold 04-03-07, 09:22 PM	I'm looking for a 20 HD Outsider with ECL +2 or less. May we ask why so specific? Outsiders, (particularly the powerful ones) tend to have many and powerful special abilities. I doubt you'll find one with only a +2 LA. In fact the only 20HD outsider I can think of with a low LA is a 20th level Monk. :cool:
Barloch 04-03-07, 10:09 PM	Unfortuneatly almost every monster whos HD + LA would be more then 20 isn't even given a LA, I personally think every mosnter should have a LA. But wizards seems to hate supporting epic material in any way shape or form anymore.:weep: