LeShay Epic Template (P.E.A.C.H.) [Archive] - Wizards Community

LeShay Epic Template (P.E.A.C.H.) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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hawkinsthedm
06-15-07, 12:50 PM For purposes of simplicity, I have turned the leShay into an epic inherited template for elves, kind of like the Paragon:

LESHAY (TEMPLATE)
CREATING A LESHAY
“LeShay” is an inherited template that can be added to any elf (referred to hereafter as the base creature).
A leShay uses all the base creature’s statistics and special abilities except as noted here.
Size and Type: The creature’s type changes to fey. Do not recalculate the creature’s Hit Dice, base attack bonus, or saves. Size is unchanged.
Speed: A leShay gains a +10 ft enhancement bonus to speed.
Armor Class: A leShay gains a +20 insight bonus to AC. They also gain a +5 natural armor bonus (if the base creature already has natural armor, use whichever is better)
Special Attacks: A leShay retains all the special attacks of the base creature and also gains the following special abilities.
LeShay Weapons (Su): Each leShay carries two personal melee weapons that he or she manifests from his or her own life essence. The weapon can change form as he or she shifts from class to class, typically appearing as a bastard sword (one in each hand). When not in combat, the weapons simply do not exist, but leShay can “draw” their weapons from nowhere as a free action. LeShay weapons are considered light weapons for a leShay, regardless of their size. LeShay weapons are +10 keen brilliant energy weapons.
Gaze (Su): All creatures within 30 feet who meet the gaze of a leShay become affected as if by charm monster. A Will save (DC 15 + 1/2 the leShay’s HD + the leShay’s Charisma modifier) negates the effect. Each opponent within range of a gaze attack must attempt a saving throw each round at the beginning of his or her turn in the initiative order. A leShay can also actively gaze as an attack action by choosing a target within range, who must then attempt a saving throw. LeShay are immune to their own gaze. The DC is Charisma-based.
Spell-Like Abilities: At will—alter self, detect thoughts, displacement, freedom, greater dispelling, heal, greater invisibility, knock, speak with plants, spell turning, greater teleport, water breathing. Caster level 28th; save DC 28 + spell level. The DCs are Charisma-based. (Should the caster level be mutable? Right now all I can figure out is that the Caster Level is 15 + their Charisma Modifier)
Special Qualities: A leShay has all the special qualities of the base creature, plus the following special qualities.
— Superior Two-Weapon Fighting: A leShay fights with a leShay weapon in each hand. Because these weapons are extensions of its own body, the leShay does not take an attack or Damage penalty for attacking with two weapons.
— Damage Reduction: 15/epic and cold iron. If the creature already possesses Damage reduction, use whichever is better.
— Immunity to poison and disease.
— Low-light vision.
— Spell resistance equal to the paragon creature’s CR +25. If the creature already possesses spell resistance, use whichever is higher. (I couldn't find a good formula for figuring why a leShay's given SR is 42, so I used the SR from the Paragon Template).
— Fast healing 10. If the creature already possesses fast healing, use whichever is better.
— A leShay never dies of old age; they perish only if killed.
— A leShay’s natural weapons are treated as epic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.
Saves: Same as base creature.
Abilities: Increase from the base creature as follows: Str +10, Dex +34, Con +26, Int +22, Wis +12, Cha +36.
Skills: Same as base creature.
Feats: Same as base creature, plus Polygot.
Challenge Rating: As base creature +15. (CR for a 50 HD fey is 13, CR 28 - 13 = 15; I also note that the CR increase of a Paragon is +15)
Alignment: Same as base creature.
Advancement: Same as base creature.
Level Adjustment: As base creature +17. (This could actually be anywhere between +17 and +20, I was just using an algorithm I found on another post: (CR / 5) + CR - 1 = ECL. So a Level 1 Elf Sorcerer with the the leShay template would be: (16 / 5) + 16 -1 = aprx. 18 ECL. 18 ECL - 1 level of Sorcerer = +17 LA).

Tell me what you think!

--Hawkins
Majick
06-15-07, 12:53 PM one thing...

why 2 damage reductions? Epic trumps cold iron, and they don't stack man, it's whatever is better
hawkinsthedm
06-15-07, 02:07 PM That is the designated DR in the updated SRD (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35). And that means the weapon has to be both epic AND made of cold iron to penetrate it. Another couple examples are the Balor, which you have to have a good-aligned weapon made of cold iron to penetrate its DR; and the Pit Fiend, which you have to have a good-aligned weapon made of silver to penetrate its DR.

-- Hawkins
IronFistMonkCerberlain
06-15-07, 11:43 PM whats polygot do? i cant find it in the srd
hawkinsthedm
06-16-07, 12:58 AM whats polygot do? i cant find it in the srd

It is an epic feat:

POLYGLOT [EPIC]
Prerequisites: Int 25, Speak Language (five languages).
Benefit: The character can speak all languages. If the character is literate, he or she can also read and write all languages (not including magical script).

I added it because it is specifically stated in the ELH that they can learn any language just be hearing it once.

--Hawkins
hawkinsthedm
06-16-07, 11:13 PM Please. Leave. Feedback. Yes, I want to here YOUR two cents worth.
User5127
06-16-07, 11:23 PM Seems pretty good to me. It would be like an upgrade to elves instead of a race.

Anyways. consider posting this in the epic boards since they have much more exp with epic and would be able to quickly run numbers in their heads to tell you if it is balanced or not.

^_^
hawkinsthedm
06-17-07, 12:15 AM Thanks for the tip about posting it on the Epic boards. The reason I decided it made a good template is because the leShay begin with all this in addition to the elf traits, so it made sense that they would have a variety of leShay races, like there is a variety of elf races. Also, the description of the leShay in the ELH states that their weapons change dependent upon their class, so this way they can actually have classes (because 50 HD of fey just does not count as a class :ahem: ).

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hawkinsthedm 06-15-07, 12:50 PM	For purposes of simplicity, I have turned the leShay into an epic inherited template for elves, kind of like the Paragon: LESHAY (TEMPLATE) CREATING A LESHAY “LeShay” is an inherited template that can be added to any elf (referred to hereafter as the base creature). A leShay uses all the base creature’s statistics and special abilities except as noted here. Size and Type: The creature’s type changes to fey. Do not recalculate the creature’s Hit Dice, base attack bonus, or saves. Size is unchanged. Speed: A leShay gains a +10 ft enhancement bonus to speed. Armor Class: A leShay gains a +20 insight bonus to AC. They also gain a +5 natural armor bonus (if the base creature already has natural armor, use whichever is better) Special Attacks: A leShay retains all the special attacks of the base creature and also gains the following special abilities. LeShay Weapons (Su): Each leShay carries two personal melee weapons that he or she manifests from his or her own life essence. The weapon can change form as he or she shifts from class to class, typically appearing as a bastard sword (one in each hand). When not in combat, the weapons simply do not exist, but leShay can “draw” their weapons from nowhere as a free action. LeShay weapons are considered light weapons for a leShay, regardless of their size. LeShay weapons are +10 keen brilliant energy weapons. Gaze (Su): All creatures within 30 feet who meet the gaze of a leShay become affected as if by charm monster. A Will save (DC 15 + 1/2 the leShay’s HD + the leShay’s Charisma modifier) negates the effect. Each opponent within range of a gaze attack must attempt a saving throw each round at the beginning of his or her turn in the initiative order. A leShay can also actively gaze as an attack action by choosing a target within range, who must then attempt a saving throw. LeShay are immune to their own gaze. The DC is Charisma-based. Spell-Like Abilities: At will—alter self, detect thoughts, displacement, freedom, greater dispelling, heal, greater invisibility, knock, speak with plants, spell turning, greater teleport, water breathing. Caster level 28th; save DC 28 + spell level. The DCs are Charisma-based. (Should the caster level be mutable? Right now all I can figure out is that the Caster Level is 15 + their Charisma Modifier) Special Qualities: A leShay has all the special qualities of the base creature, plus the following special qualities. — Superior Two-Weapon Fighting: A leShay fights with a leShay weapon in each hand. Because these weapons are extensions of its own body, the leShay does not take an attack or Damage penalty for attacking with two weapons. — Damage Reduction: 15/epic and cold iron. If the creature already possesses Damage reduction, use whichever is better. — Immunity to poison and disease. — Low-light vision. — Spell resistance equal to the paragon creature’s CR +25. If the creature already possesses spell resistance, use whichever is higher. (I couldn't find a good formula for figuring why a leShay's given SR is 42, so I used the SR from the Paragon Template). — Fast healing 10. If the creature already possesses fast healing, use whichever is better. — A leShay never dies of old age; they perish only if killed. — A leShay’s natural weapons are treated as epic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. Saves: Same as base creature. Abilities: Increase from the base creature as follows: Str +10, Dex +34, Con +26, Int +22, Wis +12, Cha +36. Skills: Same as base creature. Feats: Same as base creature, plus Polygot. Challenge Rating: As base creature +15. (CR for a 50 HD fey is 13, CR 28 - 13 = 15; I also note that the CR increase of a Paragon is +15) Alignment: Same as base creature. Advancement: Same as base creature. Level Adjustment: As base creature +17. (This could actually be anywhere between +17 and +20, I was just using an algorithm I found on another post: (CR / 5) + CR - 1 = ECL. So a Level 1 Elf Sorcerer with the the leShay template would be: (16 / 5) + 16 -1 = aprx. 18 ECL. 18 ECL - 1 level of Sorcerer = +17 LA). Tell me what you think! --Hawkins
Majick 06-15-07, 12:53 PM	one thing... why 2 damage reductions? Epic trumps cold iron, and they don't stack man, it's whatever is better
hawkinsthedm 06-15-07, 02:07 PM	That is the designated DR in the updated SRD (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35). And that means the weapon has to be both epic AND made of cold iron to penetrate it. Another couple examples are the Balor, which you have to have a good-aligned weapon made of cold iron to penetrate its DR; and the Pit Fiend, which you have to have a good-aligned weapon made of silver to penetrate its DR. -- Hawkins
IronFistMonkCerberlain 06-15-07, 11:43 PM	whats polygot do? i cant find it in the srd
hawkinsthedm 06-16-07, 12:58 AM	whats polygot do? i cant find it in the srd It is an epic feat: POLYGLOT [EPIC] Prerequisites: Int 25, Speak Language (five languages). Benefit: The character can speak all languages. If the character is literate, he or she can also read and write all languages (not including magical script). I added it because it is specifically stated in the ELH that they can learn any language just be hearing it once. --Hawkins
hawkinsthedm 06-16-07, 11:13 PM	Please. Leave. Feedback. Yes, I want to here YOUR two cents worth.
User5127 06-16-07, 11:23 PM	Seems pretty good to me. It would be like an upgrade to elves instead of a race. Anyways. consider posting this in the epic boards since they have much more exp with epic and would be able to quickly run numbers in their heads to tell you if it is balanced or not. ^_^
hawkinsthedm 06-17-07, 12:15 AM	Thanks for the tip about posting it on the Epic boards. The reason I decided it made a good template is because the leShay begin with all this in addition to the elf traits, so it made sense that they would have a variety of leShay races, like there is a variety of elf races. Also, the description of the leShay in the ELH states that their weapons change dependent upon their class, so this way they can actually have classes (because 50 HD of fey just does not count as a class :ahem: ).