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The Vorpal Tribble

02-09-07, 01:33 PM
Ok, basically I just dared myself to see if I could do this. Suggestions welcome, especially on an official LA for the cheesy monstrosity that is Superman.

His speeds I kind of chose at random. Land speed is around 500 MPH (never yet seen him running fast enough to create a sonic boom), and Fly speed is Mach 5. I know he supposedly can go faster than the speed of light, but thats dumb and I won't have it. So there.

I looked at the weight of a small mountain and tried to figure in roughly his strength, which allows him to lift, over his head, around 20+ million pounds. Again, yes, he supposedly can shift the very moon, but again, DUMB.

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Kryptonian

Kryptonian characters possess the following racial traits.
* +110 Strength, +88 Dexterity, +100 Constitution, +4 Intelligence, +8 Wisdom, +2 Charisma
* Medium: As Medium creatures, Kryptonians have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
* Kryptonian base land speed is 4,400 feet. Kryptonian fly speed is 33,880 ft. (perfect)
* Blindsight 1,000 ft.
* Naturally Psionic: Kryptonians gain 1 bonus power point.
* Breathless: A Kryptonian does not need to breathe and us thus immune to drowning, asphyxiation, airless environs and similiar conditions.
* Fast Healing: While in direct sunlight of a yellow sun a kryptonian gains fast healing 40.
* Damage reduction 100/magic and kryptonite.
* Resistance to Energy: Energy attacks deal only subdual damage to a kryptonian.
* Vulnerability to Kryptonite: If within 20 feet of kryptonite, a kryptonian's physical scores all decrease to 1 and they lose all special abilities, attacks, and qualities. They are rendered Helpless and their racial HD decrease to 1d8. These penalties last for as long as the kryptonian is within 20 feet of this kryptonite and for 2d4 rounds thereafter.
* Natural Attack: A kryptonian can make two melee attacks to deal 50d6 points of damage plus Strength modifier. A kryptonian's natural attacks are considered adamantine for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction and ignore any hardness of 50 or less.
* Energy Line (Ex): As a standard action a kryptonian can release a line of focused light from their eyes as a ranged touch attack. This attack deals 1d8 points of damage per HD of the Kryptonian.
* Icy Breath (Ex): A kryptonian has a breath weapon, a 100-foot cone of cold that deals 40d6 points of cold damage. A successful Reflex save (DC 10 + half HD + Constitution modifier) halves.
* Tempest Breath (Ex): As a full round action a Kryptonian can release a great cone of hurricane-force winds 1,000-feet long.
* Telekinetic Force (Su): A kryptonian can use telekinetic force as a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Manifester level equal to half HD. The save DC is Charisma-based.
* Atmospheric Containment: A Kryptonian is capable of retaining any enviroment they have been exposed to for a number of rounds equal to their constitution modifier.
* Racial Hit Dice: A Kryptonian begins with ninety levels of humanoid, which provide 90d8 Hit Dice, a base attack bonus of +67, and base saving throw bonuses of Fort +30, Ref +47, and Will +30.
* Racial Skills: Despite their high HD a Kryptonian without class levels only has racial skill points equal to 2 + Intelligence modifier x 4.
* Racial Feats: A Kryptonian gains two feats.
* Favored Class: Any
* Level Adjustment: ?
Thomar_of_Uointer

02-09-07, 01:38 PM
Mmm... The acid test is a pain to do with that many Hit Dice. However, I would venture a guess that it's LA +0 because at level 90 a character of this race is merely capable of dealing 1d3+55 damage with a single unarmed strike.

Let's see feature points handle this one!
JarionSilverblades

02-09-07, 03:17 PM
Man with stats like that, I’d just pick up deities and demigods, and make him a GOD!!! (dramatic reverb)

Jay: Come to me, son of Jor-El. Kneel before Zod. Snootchie-bootchies.
Darth Sephiroth

02-09-07, 03:57 PM
Superman would have a perfect fly speed, he is more than capable of hovering and flying any which way he wants to. Superman doesn't need to breathe in some versions and can go interplanetary if he wants to in most of them.
obrysii

02-09-07, 04:05 PM
I don't remember Superman having a telekinetic force.

Nor do I understand what the Atmospheric Containment is all about.
The Vorpal Tribble

02-09-07, 05:44 PM
I don't remember Superman having a telekinetic force.
See the Superman IV film He rebuilds the great wall of China with his mind and lowers some folks down while he's in Metropolis.

Nor do I understand what the Atmospheric Containment is all about.
See same movie when he is somehow able to take Miss Warchilde out into space.
HomerJaySimpson13

02-09-07, 05:56 PM
I looked at the weight of a small mountain and tried to figure in roughly his strength, which allows him to lift, over his head, around 20+ million pounds. Again, yes, he supposedly can shift the very moon, but again, DUMB.


Based on a Pyramid Weight, I came up with around 127 str so you are real close on that IMO.

I have seen him race the flash and come close to winning (while running on land not flying).
Grod_The_Giant

02-09-07, 06:19 PM
In the comics, he can't go without breathing indefinatly, just holds his breath for a LONG time. The telekinesis thing is rediculous, unless you're going for the post-crisis Superboy. And naturally psionic? please. I don't know where you got that.

common powers you left out(according to wikipedia): he's immune to most diseases. He draws nourishment from the sun. He has super vison and hearing. He has fast hearing. X RAY VISION.

I don't think the HD is the right way to go- as he is in comics, a single magic arrow would realyl mess him up.
JarionSilverblades

02-09-07, 06:32 PM
See the Superman IV film He rebuilds the great wall of China with his mind and lowers some folks down while he's in Metropolis.

For the love of all that is good and decent, can we please pretend Superman IV never existed. That movie makes Catwoman (Halle Berry) look good. :yuck:
Dragoloth

02-09-07, 09:06 PM
Superman should be able to decimate pun-pun. Leave him psionic and he needs am HIGH int bonus like +30 or 40. In the comics he could do any job (surgeon for instance) by reading about it.
AGM Illmater

02-09-07, 09:27 PM
I have this interesting book called "The Science of Superman" talks about how, if real, he would be able to do these things.

For instance, being able to lift an oceanliner out of the sea...no matter how strong you are, as a size medium creature you don't have the leverage to do so...they explained it as his being able to affect the gravity of items around him, this also provides his flight abilities.

I will dig it up and write up a version using their ideas.
Grod_The_Giant

02-09-07, 09:43 PM
actually, Wikipedia mentions this as a likely explanation:

Tactile telekinesis is a sub-category of telekinesis. This ability is actually a very recent creation in the fictional or mythical world while the ability to move objects with one's mind from afar can date back in mythology thousands of years ago. Tactile telekinesis is the ability to sub-consciously generate a telekinetic force-shield/field which encases an object or person allowing the telekineticist to manipulate that object through skin contact (and usually only skin contact). This allows for the telekineticist to carry or move said object without fear of it crumbling under its own weight.

This ability was originally presented as a more 'scientifically' sound explanation for Superman's feats of strength. This included exceeding the strain and mass-to-energy lifting power of his physical body, exceeding the durability of his organic body, his power of flight and most notably his ability to lift buildings without having them crumble around him under their own weight. On a side note this was also used to explain why blows from Superman didn't pulverize 'soft-flesh' opponents, however there are many characters who can still shred people like wet tissue paper even with this ability. Subsequently most fictional characters who display the above abilities are principally assumed to have the ability of tactile telekinesis by default even without the creators having to say so[citation needed].

Among the characters known or speculated to have tactile telekinesis powers are the modern Superboy, Gladiator, Hyperion, and Hellsing's character Seras Victoria. Superboy was at a time known for mentioning and demonstrating his tactile telekinesis whenever possible, as a running joke in the series Young Justice.
Mitchell

02-09-07, 10:18 PM
Damage reduction should be "Magic or Kryptonite" (or maybe go with green starmetal).
The problem is that DnD has entirely too much magic. Under "normal" circumstances you just assign a huge DR and be done with it. In DnD, though, magic is all too common, and the huge DR becomes little or nothing in any circumstance that is a "job for Superman". Evil necromancer raising an army of undead to conquer the world? Don't call Superman.
Rogue Shadows

02-10-07, 09:23 AM
Hmm.

I'd like to know which Kryptonian you're going for, before I say anything. Are we talking about Golden Age Kryptonians, where no matter where they were in the galaxy, even on Krypton itself, they were super? Or the more modern ones, where it's specifically under yellow suns?

The former was retconned away some time in the 70s when DC got sick of the following question: "If they're all like Superman, how could something as weak as a planet blowing up kill them?"
JarionSilverblades

02-10-07, 09:56 AM
Damage reduction should be "Magic or Kryptonite" (or maybe go with green starmetal).
The problem is that DnD has entirely too much magic. Under "normal" circumstances you just assign a huge DR and be done with it. In DnD, though, magic is all too common, and the huge DR becomes little or nothing in any circumstance that is a "job for Superman". Evil necromancer raising an army of undead to conquer the world? Don't call Superman.

You covered Green Kryptonite, but what about all the other colors, each of which has a different effect. The colors are as followed: Red, Gold, White, Blue, Jewel, Black, Anti-Kryptonite, X, Slow, Magno-Kryptonite, Kryptonite-X, and Pink. :duel:
obrysii

02-10-07, 10:22 AM
See same movie when he is somehow able to take Miss Warchilde out into space.

I meant mechanically. What's it do?
Rogue Shadows

02-10-07, 10:32 AM
Let you talk in space, I suppose, despite a distinct lack of things to do. Or breathe.
Red_Rabbit

02-10-07, 10:44 AM
This is based on the movies Obviously, because there's to much missing to be comicbooks.

The Rabbit
Voldar_Mecorthio

02-10-07, 05:26 PM
The superman movies sucked worse than the first Star Wars prequel. Please, in the name of all that is holy, only make his stats based on the comic books!
Thomar_of_Uointer

02-10-07, 08:37 PM
Oh, and using "PEACH" on this idea just goes to show how meaningless the meme is.
JarionSilverblades

02-10-07, 10:16 PM
The superman movies sucked worse than the first Star Wars prequel. Please, in the name of all that is holy, only make his stats based on the comic books!

I don’t agree that all the superman movies sucked, just III and IV. I do agree that the comics should be used, but then you have to decide which era, Golden, Silver, Modern, Pre-crisis, Post crisis, Earth 2, Earth A, I mean the list just keeps going.
I do agree that the first Star Wars prequel was really bad.
:duel:

JOR-EL: They can be a great people, Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you... my only son.
Grizzled Gryphon

02-11-07, 01:55 AM
Well, Vorpal Tribble, this is just great. Interesting, humorous, and pretty well done, I might add.

I am surprised at the amount of flak you are getting for it, though.

Now, my suggestions. The DR should be /kryptonite. I only say this as just having a chunk of this stuff was enough to mess him up. No need to add magic, just knock him upside the head with it, and your good. Also, the stuff must be AMAZINGLY rare, too. I mean, I have played DnD for at least ten years, and I have never found any. :P

While I can understand your dislike of his amazing speed, you should keep it as it is part of the whole "superman" aspect. So, try and stay subjective!! LOL.

Or not, it is really cool either way.
Caliborn

02-11-07, 01:49 PM
...you forgot to give him the dick (http://www.superdickery.com/dick/1.html) subtype.
Mitchell

02-11-07, 11:00 PM
You covered Green Kryptonite, but what about all the other colors, each of which has a different effect. The colors are as followed: Red, Gold, White, Blue, Jewel, Black, Anti-Kryptonite, X, Slow, Magno-Kryptonite, Kryptonite-X, and Pink. :duel:

I am aware of the other types of kryptonite, silly as some (most/all) of them may be, but I figured the OP was just going for the standard.
Besides, there is no mention of gold, red, etc starmetal, and creating those is just asking for it if they reflect the comic-book versions of the kryptonite.
Still, kryptonite isn't the issue, magic is. Reflecting the comic book reality is, for a character with this type of LA in the world of DnD, akin to giving them DR/ damage. :cool:
AMGriffin

02-12-07, 09:44 AM
...you forgot to give him the dick (http://www.superdickery.com/dick/1.html) subtype.

That I believe was the best laugh I've had in a while.

LOL. (http://www.superdickery.com/dick/9.html)
YabaTheWhat

02-12-07, 12:48 PM
Other than the general discrepency that kryptonite seems to show up as a type of crystal, it could pass for adamantine (at least as far as DR goes). Remember that the latter is described as metal extracted from rare meteorites. Since D&D basically takes for granted that nobody will care what planet a meteorite came from, it's unlikely that anything coming from a specific planet would be defined in the D&D system. If kryptonite needs to come in crystal form, check through the treasure listings to see if any of the gems come from meteorites.

On another note, with 90 hit dice, he would have LA --. Nothing at ECL 50+ is playable. Even the deities only have 30-60 hit dice, all from class levels.
Adrez Nesnsid

07-05-07, 09:54 PM
:bump:
Adrez Nesnsid

07-07-07, 01:52 PM
You covered Green Kryptonite, but what about all the other colors, each of which has a different effect. The colors are as followed: Red, Gold, White, Blue, Jewel, Black, Anti-Kryptonite, X, Slow, Magno-Kryptonite, Kryptonite-X, and Pink. :duel:

Pink Kryptonite is really interesting... (http://www.superdickery.com/seduction/102.html)