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Looking for a race.. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Prub
09-04-07, 01:49 PM would like to find a race with +cha for a sorc that does not have a LA..

any help please?

Thanks
BugHunter
09-04-07, 02:02 PM Lesser planetouched in Player's Guide to Faerun.
j3st3r
09-04-07, 02:04 PM There are couple with LA+1:
- Chaos Gnome (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ros_gallery/83297.jpg) (Races of Stone)
- Jaebrin (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106313.jpg) (Monster Manual 5)

EDIT: and of course Aazimar
Prub
09-04-07, 05:13 PM wish I had the Players guide to faerun. As for those other I am looking for a NON LA race..
AtsuiShoto
09-04-07, 05:26 PM Sorcerers are ALREADY scrambling to make up for retarded spell level progression, so a LA of even +1 is almost never worth it.

There's the Gruwaar from Dragon Magazine #317. They are, in my mind, PERFECT for single-classed (plus PrCs, of course) sorcerers. Small size with 30' movement (check the magazine or CrystalKeep.com for details) a decent social spell-like ability, and a Dex and Charisma bonus with no LA or racial hitdice? Sign me up!
Archangel_Tyrael
09-04-07, 05:29 PM Someone comes looking for this about once a month, but I never remember what we find for them.

I found none with LA 0, and about 5 with LA +1.
Borris
09-04-07, 08:22 PM Let's see. Races with a +2 racial modifier to Charisma, but no LA:

Star Elf (+2 Cha, -2 Con); Unapproachable East
Spirit Hellbred (+2 Cha, -2 Con); Fiendish Codex II
Spellscale (+2 Cha, -2 Con); Races of the Dragon

Looks like you have no choice but to take a race with a Con penalty, and a name that starts with S.
GawainBS
09-05-07, 06:53 AM Spellscales? They don't even have LA.
Xultanis
09-06-07, 01:42 AM One good thing about going the Spellscale route is that you also get the Meditations. A 15 minute meditation in the morning for a skill bonus and a temporary metamagic feat. Want to get empower, but don't want to waste a feat? Spellscale. Meditate for 15 minutes and you've got 3 uses of it for the day. It's not the real deal, but you can also float Eschew Materials, Still, Silent, add an extra 2d6 damage vs. Good/Evil, and others....It can add a *little* extra versatility to a sorceror.
Prub
09-06-07, 10:34 AM sounds like a good choice, but I do not own that book. Oh well I might go with another class instead. but thank you all for your imput.
AtsuiShoto
09-06-07, 11:22 AM You really ought to take a look at the Gruwaar. I'm having a hard time figuring out if the glut of information I'm finding about them (even with a simple Google search!) means they are OGL material, or just popular... so I'm not sure I should copy-paste them here for you. :shrug:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Prub 09-04-07, 01:49 PM	would like to find a race with +cha for a sorc that does not have a LA.. any help please? Thanks
BugHunter 09-04-07, 02:02 PM	Lesser planetouched in Player's Guide to Faerun.
j3st3r 09-04-07, 02:04 PM	There are couple with LA+1: - Chaos Gnome (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ros_gallery/83297.jpg) (Races of Stone) - Jaebrin (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106313.jpg) (Monster Manual 5) EDIT: and of course Aazimar
Prub 09-04-07, 05:13 PM	wish I had the Players guide to faerun. As for those other I am looking for a NON LA race..
AtsuiShoto 09-04-07, 05:26 PM	Sorcerers are ALREADY scrambling to make up for retarded spell level progression, so a LA of even +1 is almost never worth it. There's the Gruwaar from Dragon Magazine #317. They are, in my mind, PERFECT for single-classed (plus PrCs, of course) sorcerers. Small size with 30' movement (check the magazine or CrystalKeep.com for details) a decent social spell-like ability, and a Dex and Charisma bonus with no LA or racial hitdice? Sign me up!
Archangel_Tyrael 09-04-07, 05:29 PM	Someone comes looking for this about once a month, but I never remember what we find for them. I found none with LA 0, and about 5 with LA +1.
Borris 09-04-07, 08:22 PM	Let's see. Races with a +2 racial modifier to Charisma, but no LA: Star Elf (+2 Cha, -2 Con); Unapproachable East Spirit Hellbred (+2 Cha, -2 Con); Fiendish Codex II Spellscale (+2 Cha, -2 Con); Races of the Dragon Looks like you have no choice but to take a race with a Con penalty, and a name that starts with S.
GawainBS 09-05-07, 06:53 AM	Spellscales? They don't even have LA.
Xultanis 09-06-07, 01:42 AM	One good thing about going the Spellscale route is that you also get the Meditations. A 15 minute meditation in the morning for a skill bonus and a temporary metamagic feat. Want to get empower, but don't want to waste a feat? Spellscale. Meditate for 15 minutes and you've got 3 uses of it for the day. It's not the real deal, but you can also float Eschew Materials, Still, Silent, add an extra 2d6 damage vs. Good/Evil, and others....It can add a little extra versatility to a sorceror.
Prub 09-06-07, 10:34 AM	sounds like a good choice, but I do not own that book. Oh well I might go with another class instead. but thank you all for your imput.
AtsuiShoto 09-06-07, 11:22 AM	You really ought to take a look at the Gruwaar. I'm having a hard time figuring out if the glut of information I'm finding about them (even with a simple Google search!) means they are OGL material, or just popular... so I'm not sure I should copy-paste them here for you. :shrug: