need some ECL 6 races. [Archive] - Wizards Community

need some ECL 6 races. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
danielinthewolvesden
02-23-07, 08:11 PM Suitable for PCs. Non Evil. WotC published. ECL4 or 5 is OK too.

(By ECL I mean a combo of LA and "monster class levels")

Suggestions?
crimsonwolf
02-23-07, 08:13 PM pherioc.. monster manual 3 i think its bascily a phoinex human theam you can also do a varient for a cold.. but most la that big are usual monsters and evil ones at that...
FrostHammer
02-23-07, 08:16 PM Centaurs. 4 Racial HD and 2 LA. they kick ass.
Cricket_God
02-23-07, 11:34 PM You could be a good (or neutral) ogre. ECL 6, some natural armor, 10ft natural reach, good stat bonuses so long as you aren't worried to much about your brain. Similar to centaur but it moves slightly slower and reaches farther.
runestar
02-23-07, 11:43 PM The yakfolk(or is it goatfolk?) in MM3 are ECL4 and make decent fighters.
Lizardfolk aren't too shabby either at ECL3(thanks to their NA)
Maug(ECL5, fiend folio) can also make excellent fighters, though lack of a con score can be daunting...
Finfreeze
02-24-07, 12:04 AM Giant Eagles and Owls (4 HD, +2 LA): If you advance them to 9 hit dice, they become huge. They can talk, so don't worry about it.

Half-Dragon Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale (3 HD, +3 LA)

Pixie (LA +4, or +6 with Irresistible Dance)
danielinthewolvesden
02-24-07, 03:45 AM Ok, I now must add: Must have Darkvision and no Large+ races.

Thanks so far.
runestar
02-24-07, 07:10 AM Well, that certainly neuters all lot of choices...:(
Finfreeze
02-24-07, 07:48 AM Pseudodragon (2 HD, LA +3)
Brass Dragon Wyrmling (4 HD, LA +2)
AMGriffin
02-24-07, 05:04 PM Half-Dragon Bugbear?

>_>
JarionSilverblades
02-24-07, 06:55 PM Half-Gold Dragon/Drow, female, Cleric of Bahamut. She would only have an LA: +5. Even know she is Drow she doesn't have to be evil, I think Drizzt has taught us that.
Orchomenos
02-24-07, 06:58 PM From SRD:
Aranea 3 HD + 4LA (could tweaked them for a +3LA instead)
Azer: 2 HD + 4LA
Bugbear: 3 HD +1 LA
Celestial anything: +2 LA
Brass Wyrmling: 4 HD + 2 LA
Gnoll: 2HD +1 LA
Svirneblin: +3 LA (Celestial: +5 LA!)
Grimlock: 2HD +2 LA
Wereboar: +3HD +2(+3) LA
Wererat: +1 HD +2(+3) LA
Werewolf: +2 HD +2(+3) LA
Wereleopard (not in SRD): +3 HD +2(+3) LA
Mephit: 3HD +3 LA
Sahuagin: 2HD +2 (+3 if four-armed!)
Satyr: 5HD +2 LA (could tweaked them for a +1 LA or 4 HD instead)
Skum: 2HD + 3 LA
Grig, Nixie, Pixie
Triton: 3HD +2 LA (aquatic)
Troglodyte: 2HD + 2 LA
JarionSilverblades
02-24-07, 07:31 PM Half-Dragon Bugbear?

>_>

Wouldn't that have an ECL of 7
(3 Humanoid HD, + Bugbear LA +1, + Half-Dragon LA +3 = ELC 7)
Artector
02-24-07, 07:34 PM I think you might be able to use Awakened animals too for what you want.
Jaxgaret
02-24-07, 07:48 PM Half-Dragon Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale (3 HD, +3 LA)

Mmm, SS Anthro Cheese. That particular Anthropomorphic Animal is the most broken for melee types.

My suggestion is a Half-Celestial Poison Dusk Lizardfolk or Half-Celestial Catfolk.

For something different, a Half-Celestial Shadow Creature Warforged would be mighty interesting.
The_Shaman
02-24-07, 07:58 PM Half-Dragon goliath Barb 2 should be okay, eventually becoming quite good imo. HD isn't incredibly powerful for +3, but it's strength can be quite intimidating. Also, I wonder if you could be a half-minotaur werewolf... That might be quite powerful, but it's more than a bit weird.

For interactions, half-fey bards can be quite good. Good stats, and charm person at will :).
Caliborn
02-24-07, 08:19 PM Insectile Thrikeen
2 Hit Die
4 Level Adjustment
8 Arms
16 cans of whoopass
AMGriffin
02-24-07, 09:23 PM Wouldn't that have an ECL of 7
(3 Humanoid HD, + Bugbear LA +1, + Half-Dragon LA +3 = ELC 7)

Well...

*runs away*
runestar
02-24-07, 10:17 PM Insectile Thrikeen
2 Hit Die
4 Level Adjustment
8 Arms
16 cans of whoopass
Except that 4 of those arms cannot be used for combat...
crimsonwolf
02-24-07, 10:30 PM Half-Vampire Tauric Elf-Manticore

Half-Golem Hivemind Manticore
danielinthewolvesden
02-24-07, 10:32 PM And one further limitation. No combos of races and templates. It can be a leveled out template.

But it can be less than 6 ECL, so if you have a good 4 ecl race, let me know.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
danielinthewolvesden 02-23-07, 08:11 PM	Suitable for PCs. Non Evil. WotC published. ECL4 or 5 is OK too. (By ECL I mean a combo of LA and "monster class levels") Suggestions?
crimsonwolf 02-23-07, 08:13 PM	pherioc.. monster manual 3 i think its bascily a phoinex human theam you can also do a varient for a cold.. but most la that big are usual monsters and evil ones at that...
FrostHammer 02-23-07, 08:16 PM	Centaurs. 4 Racial HD and 2 LA. they kick ass.
Cricket_God 02-23-07, 11:34 PM	You could be a good (or neutral) ogre. ECL 6, some natural armor, 10ft natural reach, good stat bonuses so long as you aren't worried to much about your brain. Similar to centaur but it moves slightly slower and reaches farther.
runestar 02-23-07, 11:43 PM	The yakfolk(or is it goatfolk?) in MM3 are ECL4 and make decent fighters. Lizardfolk aren't too shabby either at ECL3(thanks to their NA) Maug(ECL5, fiend folio) can also make excellent fighters, though lack of a con score can be daunting...
Finfreeze 02-24-07, 12:04 AM	Giant Eagles and Owls (4 HD, +2 LA): If you advance them to 9 hit dice, they become huge. They can talk, so don't worry about it. Half-Dragon Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale (3 HD, +3 LA) Pixie (LA +4, or +6 with Irresistible Dance)
danielinthewolvesden 02-24-07, 03:45 AM	Ok, I now must add: Must have Darkvision and no Large+ races. Thanks so far.
runestar 02-24-07, 07:10 AM	Well, that certainly neuters all lot of choices...:(
Finfreeze 02-24-07, 07:48 AM	Pseudodragon (2 HD, LA +3) Brass Dragon Wyrmling (4 HD, LA +2)
AMGriffin 02-24-07, 05:04 PM	Half-Dragon Bugbear? >_>
JarionSilverblades 02-24-07, 06:55 PM	Half-Gold Dragon/Drow, female, Cleric of Bahamut. She would only have an LA: +5. Even know she is Drow she doesn't have to be evil, I think Drizzt has taught us that.
Orchomenos 02-24-07, 06:58 PM	From SRD: Aranea 3 HD + 4LA (could tweaked them for a +3LA instead) Azer: 2 HD + 4LA Bugbear: 3 HD +1 LA Celestial anything: +2 LA Brass Wyrmling: 4 HD + 2 LA Gnoll: 2HD +1 LA Svirneblin: +3 LA (Celestial: +5 LA!) Grimlock: 2HD +2 LA Wereboar: +3HD +2(+3) LA Wererat: +1 HD +2(+3) LA Werewolf: +2 HD +2(+3) LA Wereleopard (not in SRD): +3 HD +2(+3) LA Mephit: 3HD +3 LA Sahuagin: 2HD +2 (+3 if four-armed!) Satyr: 5HD +2 LA (could tweaked them for a +1 LA or 4 HD instead) Skum: 2HD + 3 LA Grig, Nixie, Pixie Triton: 3HD +2 LA (aquatic) Troglodyte: 2HD + 2 LA
JarionSilverblades 02-24-07, 07:31 PM	Half-Dragon Bugbear? >_> Wouldn't that have an ECL of 7 (3 Humanoid HD, + Bugbear LA +1, + Half-Dragon LA +3 = ELC 7)
Artector 02-24-07, 07:34 PM	I think you might be able to use Awakened animals too for what you want.
Jaxgaret 02-24-07, 07:48 PM	Half-Dragon Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale (3 HD, +3 LA) Mmm, SS Anthro Cheese. That particular Anthropomorphic Animal is the most broken for melee types. My suggestion is a Half-Celestial Poison Dusk Lizardfolk or Half-Celestial Catfolk. For something different, a Half-Celestial Shadow Creature Warforged would be mighty interesting.
The_Shaman 02-24-07, 07:58 PM	Half-Dragon goliath Barb 2 should be okay, eventually becoming quite good imo. HD isn't incredibly powerful for +3, but it's strength can be quite intimidating. Also, I wonder if you could be a half-minotaur werewolf... That might be quite powerful, but it's more than a bit weird. For interactions, half-fey bards can be quite good. Good stats, and charm person at will :).
Caliborn 02-24-07, 08:19 PM	Insectile Thrikeen 2 Hit Die 4 Level Adjustment 8 Arms 16 cans of whoopass
AMGriffin 02-24-07, 09:23 PM	Wouldn't that have an ECL of 7 (3 Humanoid HD, + Bugbear LA +1, + Half-Dragon LA +3 = ELC 7) Well... runs away
runestar 02-24-07, 10:17 PM	Insectile Thrikeen 2 Hit Die 4 Level Adjustment 8 Arms 16 cans of whoopass Except that 4 of those arms cannot be used for combat...
crimsonwolf 02-24-07, 10:30 PM	Half-Vampire Tauric Elf-Manticore Half-Golem Hivemind Manticore
danielinthewolvesden 02-24-07, 10:32 PM	And one further limitation. No combos of races and templates. It can be a leveled out template. But it can be less than 6 ECL, so if you have a good 4 ecl race, let me know.