Outsiders and lifespans [Archive] - Wizards Community

Outsiders and lifespans [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Frogmantis
08-07-07, 05:03 PM How long do outsiders, as a general rule, live? Indefinitely, or similar to humans? and for that matter, how long would a tiefling or aasimar live, as they are outsides with part human ancestory?
GawainBS
08-07-07, 05:34 PM The lifespan of Tieflings & Aasimars it mentioned in the Planar HB, I think. IIRC, outsiders are immortal, unless killed.
Taeldrin Laesrash
08-07-07, 05:44 PM Planetouched, as the descendents of outsiders and humans, have human lifespans (Planetouched of other races have been mentioned, but never statted, except for the Fiend Folio wierdos). Typical outsiders (Devils, demons, archons, etc) are immortal, being manifestations of their alignment).
TheAnthroDM
08-07-07, 05:49 PM *coughs*

Outsiderz iz 4evar.

Planetouched do NOT have human life spans, take a look in Races of Destiny to see how long Planetouched live.
Frogmantis
08-07-07, 05:53 PM ...I don't have that book. would you mind just blurtering it out, so i can save the $39.99?
TheAnthroDM
08-07-07, 06:22 PM ...I don't have that book. would you mind just blurtering it out, so i can save the $39.99?
No. I'd rather you pay $39.99 than me get banned for posting copy written material.
Frogmantis
08-07-07, 06:30 PM No. I'd rather you pay $39.99 than me get banned for posting copy written material.

ha, cute. But fair enough.
ToastedAmphibian
08-07-07, 07:45 PM What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever?
Morwen
08-07-07, 07:48 PM What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever?

20th level Monks do not become Outsiders. The "perfect self" ability simply states they're treated as Outsiders for the purpose of spells and magical effects.
TheAnthroDM
08-07-07, 07:50 PM No, see the Monks ageless ability for more details
Shemeska the Marauder
08-07-07, 07:53 PM What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever?

20th level monks and other beings that become (native) outsiders as a class feature are still mortal and die at the end of their lifespan. Native outsiders as a rule are mortal, with the one glowing exception of the rakshasa who is immortal and native to Acheron but somehow became a native outsider in 3.5 without apparent consideration of the full ramifications of that change. Either ignore the native part, or assume they're the exception to the rule. Typically the presence of body/soul duality that native outsiders as a group should possess is a hallmark of mortality.
Rerecros
08-08-07, 12:48 AM Outsiders with the extrplanar subtype, undead and constructs are always immortal, ortherwise the answer is always maybe.

Fey, aberrations (Aboleth, elan, ethergaunts), native outsiders may or may not be immortal or effectively immortal depending on houseruling.

Oozes are also technically immortal, they just keep dividing.

The native subtype seems to be a product of some miscommunication. Rakshasa, Couatl, tritons, Janni should just be outsiders sans the extraplanar subtype. Though they are all native to the prime material (Rakshasa being from Archeron pre 3rd addition), the native subtype seems to be oriented more towards the planetouched.
El_Machinae
08-11-07, 11:21 PM What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever?

Frostburn has a monk PrC that learns to live forever.
sigma999
08-12-07, 04:55 AM Immortal or until killed by PCs.

Don't like it? Deal with it. hahahaaaaa
pinkbunny
08-12-07, 07:08 AM ...I don't have that book. would you mind just blurtering it out, so i can save the $39.99?

I think it's completely safe to say "longer than humans, but less than half-elves"

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Frogmantis 08-07-07, 05:03 PM	How long do outsiders, as a general rule, live? Indefinitely, or similar to humans? and for that matter, how long would a tiefling or aasimar live, as they are outsides with part human ancestory?
GawainBS 08-07-07, 05:34 PM	The lifespan of Tieflings & Aasimars it mentioned in the Planar HB, I think. IIRC, outsiders are immortal, unless killed.
Taeldrin Laesrash 08-07-07, 05:44 PM	Planetouched, as the descendents of outsiders and humans, have human lifespans (Planetouched of other races have been mentioned, but never statted, except for the Fiend Folio wierdos). Typical outsiders (Devils, demons, archons, etc) are immortal, being manifestations of their alignment).
TheAnthroDM 08-07-07, 05:49 PM	coughs Outsiderz iz 4evar. Planetouched do NOT have human life spans, take a look in Races of Destiny to see how long Planetouched live.
Frogmantis 08-07-07, 05:53 PM	...I don't have that book. would you mind just blurtering it out, so i can save the $39.99?
TheAnthroDM 08-07-07, 06:22 PM	...I don't have that book. would you mind just blurtering it out, so i can save the $39.99? No. I'd rather you pay $39.99 than me get banned for posting copy written material.
Frogmantis 08-07-07, 06:30 PM	No. I'd rather you pay $39.99 than me get banned for posting copy written material. ha, cute. But fair enough.
ToastedAmphibian 08-07-07, 07:45 PM	What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever?
Morwen 08-07-07, 07:48 PM	What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever? 20th level Monks do not become Outsiders. The "perfect self" ability simply states they're treated as Outsiders for the purpose of spells and magical effects.
TheAnthroDM 08-07-07, 07:50 PM	No, see the Monks ageless ability for more details
Shemeska the Marauder 08-07-07, 07:53 PM	What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever? 20th level monks and other beings that become (native) outsiders as a class feature are still mortal and die at the end of their lifespan. Native outsiders as a rule are mortal, with the one glowing exception of the rakshasa who is immortal and native to Acheron but somehow became a native outsider in 3.5 without apparent consideration of the full ramifications of that change. Either ignore the native part, or assume they're the exception to the rule. Typically the presence of body/soul duality that native outsiders as a group should possess is a hallmark of mortality.
Rerecros 08-08-07, 12:48 AM	Outsiders with the extrplanar subtype, undead and constructs are always immortal, ortherwise the answer is always maybe. Fey, aberrations (Aboleth, elan, ethergaunts), native outsiders may or may not be immortal or effectively immortal depending on houseruling. Oozes are also technically immortal, they just keep dividing. The native subtype seems to be a product of some miscommunication. Rakshasa, Couatl, tritons, Janni should just be outsiders sans the extraplanar subtype. Though they are all native to the prime material (Rakshasa being from Archeron pre 3rd addition), the native subtype seems to be oriented more towards the planetouched.
El_Machinae 08-11-07, 11:21 PM	What about native outsiders, like 20th lvl monks. Do they live forever? Frostburn has a monk PrC that learns to live forever.
sigma999 08-12-07, 04:55 AM	Immortal or until killed by PCs. Don't like it? Deal with it. hahahaaaaa
pinkbunny 08-12-07, 07:08 AM	...I don't have that book. would you mind just blurtering it out, so i can save the $39.99? I think it's completely safe to say "longer than humans, but less than half-elves"