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GodGoblin
03-12-08, 04:16 PM Hi all, one of my players is writing his own campaign setting to use after mine has finished. I have already come up with a character and he has ok'ed the concept as long as i can make it sensible.

The main concept is a Dryad druid (or ranger or scout, not entirely sure yet) that was chosen by Obad-Hai to go strike out against those that killed the druids of her grove (this gets over the tree dependant rule and has also been ok'ed).

First off ive looked in the savage spieces but im still unsure on what a dryads LA would be, i cant figure out what its ability scores would be or what LA its spells per day would give. If anyone could post what it is as a playable race that would be great!

But if the LA is over 2 or mabye 3 then il have to configure the race to fit, mainly by adjusting its spell like abilities and ability scores. when i can find out the actual LA of the dryad il post my own version on here.

Thanks in advance.

LA is level ajustment just incase that helps ;)
El_Magnifeco
03-12-08, 04:20 PM Its shizzle..........no, seriously, as the future DM, I caution you to keep it sensible or I'll make like the Grange Hill kids, and 'Just say no!'
M-bark
03-12-08, 04:26 PM Well, they start out with levels in Fey, don't they? They're listed as having 4 HD in the Monster Manual anyway, so I'd think so. If I'd have to guess, and LA of either 2 or 3 would be right, prolly leaning towards 2. That's taking the Tree Dependency into account. I suggest you take away their Suggestion 1/day, lower the At Will SLAs to 3/day, and the 3/day SLAs to 1/day. Then you could make their Caster Level equal to their Hit Dice, and I think you'd have yourself a good solid LA of +2, or perhaps even an LA of +1.
GodGoblin
03-12-08, 04:38 PM I think you'd have yourself a good solid LA of +2, or perhaps even an LA of +1.

Im assuming that isnt taking HD into account. i probably should have specified that i can only do 2 or 3 ECL.

I like the idea for the spells, but do you have any idea what its ability score adjustment would be?
M-bark
03-12-08, 04:43 PM Im assuming that isnt taking HD into account. i probab;y should have specified that i can only do 2 or 3 ECL.

I like the idea for the spells, but do you have any idea what its ability score adjustment would be?

Oh, that's quite easy. You take the stats you know, like those in the MM, and substract either 10 (if even) or 11 (if odd) and then you have their Racial Mods.

Therefore, it's something like this: +8 Dex, +4 Int, +4 Wis, +8 Cha.

Yes, it's a lot. That's probably why there's a big ECL tied to it with 4 Racial HD and an LA to boot. You could halve them for your home campaign, perhaps, and say that the Dryad is free from her (or his?) tree, but is weaker than the others because of that.
GodGoblin
03-12-08, 04:59 PM I saw the -10 on even and -11 on odds before but when i tried it out on a Dwarf it didnt work their stats were different to that in the PHB, i assumed it wasnt quite right after that.
M-bark
03-12-08, 05:07 PM I saw the -10 on even and -11 on odds before but when i tried it out on a Dwarf it didnt work their stats were different to that in the PHB, i assumed it wasnt quite right after that.

From the SRD at the Dwarf entry:

The dwarf warrior presented here had the following ability scores before racial adjustments: Str 13, Dex 11, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 9, Cha 8.

The Dryad's entry had no such things in it. Only officially playable races like the Dwarf, Aasimar and Drow. All the others just have 10s and 11s as base.
GodGoblin
03-12-08, 05:42 PM ok so how about-

+4 dex, +2 wis, +4 cha.

Natural Armour +3.

Damage reduction 5/cold iron.

spell like abilities- entangle 1/day, speak with plants 3/day, camoflage 3/day (in woodland only). caster level equal to half character level.

Wild empathy- +6 knolege nature and survival checks.

+5 on handle animal checks

For LA +2 or +3.

If it is over balenced mabye introduce a fire vulnerabilty or mabye you can be set on fire and take gradual damage over a number of rounds untill its put out (mabye a variation on heat metal?)

As it stands i think it will be too powerful for a +2 or 3 but i can work on it according to feedback.

Thanks for all the help so far!
M-bark
03-12-08, 05:49 PM It sounds reasonable enough. Will you keep the racial HD with it, though? If I recall correctly, Fey LA can be replaced by an equal amount of Racial Fey HD (racial HD > LA), but LA can be bought off if you use Unearthed Arcana's rules for that.
GodGoblin
03-13-08, 10:43 AM No were not using HD caus eit ups the ECL by how many HD it has so were just keeping it with none, unless I have it wrong.

So should I add the fire vulnerability? and what LA would it be with it? if i can make it +2 without it tha would be great.
M-bark
03-13-08, 12:00 PM Fire Vulnerability probably would be good, especially if the Dryad is extra-leafy (i.e. hairy). Adding that, I think LA+2 certainly wouldn't be an over- or underestimation.
jradd777
03-13-08, 12:35 PM I know you've already said you want to be a Dryad. So, I apologize if this is just in the way... but why not play a Killoren (RotW). It would be perfect for the flavor that you have of being Obad-Hai's...mercenary of sorts. The different aspects would be great for everything you want to do/ would fit in well for any of the classes you are thinking of... especially the Aspect of the Destroyer. They are fey still, etc. Best part is LA 0. You wouldn't have to worry about making any crazy modifications and as flexible as your DM is, maybe you could be allowed to manifest multiple aspects or all three and take a flaw(s) to counteract them... or something. Again, sorry if this is absolutely no help but it seems that Killoren would really be perfect for what you want.
GodGoblin
03-13-08, 05:20 PM I know you've already said you want to be a Dryad. So, I apologize if this is just in the way... but why not play a Killoren (RotW). It would be perfect for the flavor that you have of being Obad-Hai's...mercenary of sorts. The different aspects would be great for everything you want to do/ would fit in well for any of the classes you are thinking of... especially the Aspect of the Destroyer. They are fey still, etc. Best part is LA 0. You wouldn't have to worry about making any crazy modifications and as flexible as your DM is, maybe you could be allowed to manifest multiple aspects or all three and take a flaw(s) to counteract them... or something. Again, sorry if this is absolutely no help but it seems that Killoren would really be perfect for what you want.

Thanks for trying to help the concept sounds pretty cool so il look into it for mabye another character. The whole Obad-Hai mercanary thing is really just an excuse so that the dryad ca be free from the tree. it was either that or the she absorbed a piece of its root and is using it like a heart of sorts.

yeah i think il go for the fire vulnerability and give it a +2 LA. But what will it be exactly, just double dmage from fire attacks? that seems a bit harsh to me but im no expert.
Rebel7284
03-13-08, 05:51 PM yeah i think il go for the fire vulnerability and give it a +2 LA. But what will it be exactly, just double dmage from fire attacks? that seems a bit harsh to me but im no expert.

Get an item that adds fire resistance. :)
GodGoblin
03-13-08, 06:05 PM Get an item that adds fire resistance. :)

Im not talking about for my particular character i mean for the race on the whole.
M-bark
03-14-08, 10:32 AM General Fire Vulnerability adds 50% to any fire damage a creature receives. Woodling Humans, which are probably the closest official playable PC "race" you could get to Dryads, have Fire Vulnerability (50%).
GodGoblin
03-14-08, 04:51 PM ok so how about-

+4 dex, +2 wis, +4 cha.

Natural Armour +3.

Damage reduction 5/cold iron.

Fire vulnerability (50%)

Spell like abilities- entangle 1/day, speak with plants 3/day, camoflage 3/day (in woodland only). caster level equal to half character level.

Wild empathy- +6 knolege nature and survival checks.

+5 on handle animal checks

LA +2.

I think that sounds pretty good, thanks for all the help.

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GodGoblin 03-12-08, 04:16 PM	Hi all, one of my players is writing his own campaign setting to use after mine has finished. I have already come up with a character and he has ok'ed the concept as long as i can make it sensible. The main concept is a Dryad druid (or ranger or scout, not entirely sure yet) that was chosen by Obad-Hai to go strike out against those that killed the druids of her grove (this gets over the tree dependant rule and has also been ok'ed). First off ive looked in the savage spieces but im still unsure on what a dryads LA would be, i cant figure out what its ability scores would be or what LA its spells per day would give. If anyone could post what it is as a playable race that would be great! But if the LA is over 2 or mabye 3 then il have to configure the race to fit, mainly by adjusting its spell like abilities and ability scores. when i can find out the actual LA of the dryad il post my own version on here. Thanks in advance. LA is level ajustment just incase that helps ;)
El_Magnifeco 03-12-08, 04:20 PM	Its shizzle..........no, seriously, as the future DM, I caution you to keep it sensible or I'll make like the Grange Hill kids, and 'Just say no!'
M-bark 03-12-08, 04:26 PM	Well, they start out with levels in Fey, don't they? They're listed as having 4 HD in the Monster Manual anyway, so I'd think so. If I'd have to guess, and LA of either 2 or 3 would be right, prolly leaning towards 2. That's taking the Tree Dependency into account. I suggest you take away their Suggestion 1/day, lower the At Will SLAs to 3/day, and the 3/day SLAs to 1/day. Then you could make their Caster Level equal to their Hit Dice, and I think you'd have yourself a good solid LA of +2, or perhaps even an LA of +1.
GodGoblin 03-12-08, 04:38 PM	I think you'd have yourself a good solid LA of +2, or perhaps even an LA of +1. Im assuming that isnt taking HD into account. i probably should have specified that i can only do 2 or 3 ECL. I like the idea for the spells, but do you have any idea what its ability score adjustment would be?
M-bark 03-12-08, 04:43 PM	Im assuming that isnt taking HD into account. i probab;y should have specified that i can only do 2 or 3 ECL. I like the idea for the spells, but do you have any idea what its ability score adjustment would be? Oh, that's quite easy. You take the stats you know, like those in the MM, and substract either 10 (if even) or 11 (if odd) and then you have their Racial Mods. Therefore, it's something like this: +8 Dex, +4 Int, +4 Wis, +8 Cha. Yes, it's a lot. That's probably why there's a big ECL tied to it with 4 Racial HD and an LA to boot. You could halve them for your home campaign, perhaps, and say that the Dryad is free from her (or his?) tree, but is weaker than the others because of that.
GodGoblin 03-12-08, 04:59 PM	I saw the -10 on even and -11 on odds before but when i tried it out on a Dwarf it didnt work their stats were different to that in the PHB, i assumed it wasnt quite right after that.
M-bark 03-12-08, 05:07 PM	I saw the -10 on even and -11 on odds before but when i tried it out on a Dwarf it didnt work their stats were different to that in the PHB, i assumed it wasnt quite right after that. From the SRD at the Dwarf entry: The dwarf warrior presented here had the following ability scores before racial adjustments: Str 13, Dex 11, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 9, Cha 8. The Dryad's entry had no such things in it. Only officially playable races like the Dwarf, Aasimar and Drow. All the others just have 10s and 11s as base.
GodGoblin 03-12-08, 05:42 PM	ok so how about- +4 dex, +2 wis, +4 cha. Natural Armour +3. Damage reduction 5/cold iron. spell like abilities- entangle 1/day, speak with plants 3/day, camoflage 3/day (in woodland only). caster level equal to half character level. Wild empathy- +6 knolege nature and survival checks. +5 on handle animal checks For LA +2 or +3. If it is over balenced mabye introduce a fire vulnerabilty or mabye you can be set on fire and take gradual damage over a number of rounds untill its put out (mabye a variation on heat metal?) As it stands i think it will be too powerful for a +2 or 3 but i can work on it according to feedback. Thanks for all the help so far!
M-bark 03-12-08, 05:49 PM	It sounds reasonable enough. Will you keep the racial HD with it, though? If I recall correctly, Fey LA can be replaced by an equal amount of Racial Fey HD (racial HD > LA), but LA can be bought off if you use Unearthed Arcana's rules for that.
GodGoblin 03-13-08, 10:43 AM	No were not using HD caus eit ups the ECL by how many HD it has so were just keeping it with none, unless I have it wrong. So should I add the fire vulnerability? and what LA would it be with it? if i can make it +2 without it tha would be great.
M-bark 03-13-08, 12:00 PM	Fire Vulnerability probably would be good, especially if the Dryad is extra-leafy (i.e. hairy). Adding that, I think LA+2 certainly wouldn't be an over- or underestimation.
jradd777 03-13-08, 12:35 PM	I know you've already said you want to be a Dryad. So, I apologize if this is just in the way... but why not play a Killoren (RotW). It would be perfect for the flavor that you have of being Obad-Hai's...mercenary of sorts. The different aspects would be great for everything you want to do/ would fit in well for any of the classes you are thinking of... especially the Aspect of the Destroyer. They are fey still, etc. Best part is LA 0. You wouldn't have to worry about making any crazy modifications and as flexible as your DM is, maybe you could be allowed to manifest multiple aspects or all three and take a flaw(s) to counteract them... or something. Again, sorry if this is absolutely no help but it seems that Killoren would really be perfect for what you want.
GodGoblin 03-13-08, 05:20 PM	I know you've already said you want to be a Dryad. So, I apologize if this is just in the way... but why not play a Killoren (RotW). It would be perfect for the flavor that you have of being Obad-Hai's...mercenary of sorts. The different aspects would be great for everything you want to do/ would fit in well for any of the classes you are thinking of... especially the Aspect of the Destroyer. They are fey still, etc. Best part is LA 0. You wouldn't have to worry about making any crazy modifications and as flexible as your DM is, maybe you could be allowed to manifest multiple aspects or all three and take a flaw(s) to counteract them... or something. Again, sorry if this is absolutely no help but it seems that Killoren would really be perfect for what you want. Thanks for trying to help the concept sounds pretty cool so il look into it for mabye another character. The whole Obad-Hai mercanary thing is really just an excuse so that the dryad ca be free from the tree. it was either that or the she absorbed a piece of its root and is using it like a heart of sorts. yeah i think il go for the fire vulnerability and give it a +2 LA. But what will it be exactly, just double dmage from fire attacks? that seems a bit harsh to me but im no expert.
Rebel7284 03-13-08, 05:51 PM	yeah i think il go for the fire vulnerability and give it a +2 LA. But what will it be exactly, just double dmage from fire attacks? that seems a bit harsh to me but im no expert. Get an item that adds fire resistance. :)
GodGoblin 03-13-08, 06:05 PM	Get an item that adds fire resistance. :) Im not talking about for my particular character i mean for the race on the whole.
M-bark 03-14-08, 10:32 AM	General Fire Vulnerability adds 50% to any fire damage a creature receives. Woodling Humans, which are probably the closest official playable PC "race" you could get to Dryads, have Fire Vulnerability (50%).
GodGoblin 03-14-08, 04:51 PM	ok so how about- +4 dex, +2 wis, +4 cha. Natural Armour +3. Damage reduction 5/cold iron. Fire vulnerability (50%) Spell like abilities- entangle 1/day, speak with plants 3/day, camoflage 3/day (in woodland only). caster level equal to half character level. Wild empathy- +6 knolege nature and survival checks. +5 on handle animal checks LA +2. I think that sounds pretty good, thanks for all the help.