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sithlord006

01-04-08, 02:09 PM
I was wanting to write up a 'human' character. Are there rules for creating a member of a species who's parents are both gods? Specifically the gods of magic and justice (Mystra/Tyr). Does the parent's godhood matter to the character's stats (NPC in case you are wondering).
Red_Wizards_Rock

01-04-08, 02:20 PM
First, that wouldn't happen.
Second, that would make you a god.
Third, that still wouldn't happen.
sithlord006

01-04-08, 02:29 PM
First, that wouldn't happen.
Second, that would make you a god.
Third, that still wouldn't happen.

Could you expound on the idea that such a scenario is impossible?
Jaxgaret

01-04-08, 04:33 PM
Divine Rank & Powers (http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/divineRanksPowers.htm).
ericSHINRA

01-04-08, 04:52 PM
Could you expound on the idea that such a scenario is impossible?

Because gods are Outsiders and not human.
Thus, their offspring would also be divine in nature.

Red_Wizards_Rock was being a bit rude though, IMHO.
Red_Wizards_Rock

01-04-08, 07:31 PM
Yea I was being rude, I'm sorry. It wouldn't happen, because like I said earlier two gods mating makes another god. Like two humans mating would make another human. Neither Mystra and Tyr have had any past relationships. Most important that Elminster and Mystra are an item as shown in the Forgotten Realms novels. Mystra wouldn't think about being with another man even a god over Elminster. The very idea that anyone would think Mystra and Tyr even without Elminster is just wrong though. Maybe anyone and Sune:P or Lathander and Selune.

If you do go on with this than there is the LA +7 Quasi Divine race.
sithlord006

01-05-08, 12:05 AM
Thank you for the feedback. Rather than 'human', I suppose a better way to say it would be humanlike in appearance living among humans. Sune isn't a bad idea.

Please pardon my ignorance. I'm actually from the Star Wars RPG primarily and am fairly unfamiliar with all things DnD, aside from what I've seen in Baldur's Gate 1&2 on PC, and I'm somewhat familiar with the base classes, but you'd lose me quickly with the various PrCs.
Red_Wizards_Rock

01-05-08, 12:41 AM
Are you going to be using this as a PC? Are you going to be just human with no stat bonus or abilities? If anything I'd change it to God and some other race that's not a god so you don't get another god. Otherwise if he does become humanlike he'd be the Special ED of Divine ranks. Since most of the Gods were born from two gods.
sithlord006

01-05-08, 02:04 AM
Its an NPC, but I hadn't realized the product would be a full fledged god. I thought only those with designated portfolios were considered gods. Like I said, I'm ignorant of the process.
The_Cheeseman

01-10-08, 12:17 AM
If you want an NPC that is only quasi-divine, make him a human with Divine Rank 0. That would grant him some immunities, natural immortality, maximum HP/HD, and his Cha bonus as a deflection bonus to his AC. You could make him otherwise human.

You could choose to give him the deity stat array (35, 28, 25, 24, 24, 24) and deity movement speeds (60 ft. for a medium creature) but then it will get rather difficult to balance the NPC in non-epic play.

It is entirely possible to create a character that is the product of a god, but not a god himself. Uranus and Gaia spawned the titans, who include the hecatoncheires and cyclops among their ranks. Abominations are all the product of divine entities, and they are only divine rank 0.

Honestly, deities in general are mostly left up to the DM. It's your NPC, so decide what role you want him to play, and design his stats to fit that role. The players will probably never see his stat block anyways, so who cares what actual abilities you give him, unless they are needed for the game.
Red_Wizards_Rock

01-10-08, 12:57 AM
If you are going to take about Greek Titans than yes they would have Divine Ranks from 1-20 like gods. If you are discussing Titans in the Monster Manual than those are a joke compared to Greek Titans which could create life at a whim freeze the world or make it warm, bring love and hate out of mortals. Greek Titans would have Divine Rank above 0.

Abominations are not all Divine in nature to be honest I can't think of any that are. Beholders, Mindflayers and Mimics sure I guess they could be if the DM wants them to be.
Sinfire Titan

01-10-08, 01:35 AM
Godblooded template? Closest thing you'll get to it being a playable god. Save for Pun-Pun,of course.
M-bark

01-10-08, 02:46 AM
Because gods are Outsiders and not human.
Thus, their offspring would also be divine in nature.

Red_Wizards_Rock was being a bit rude though, IMHO.

Unless you'd not make them BIOLOGICAL parents. Like making them parents in the sense of [insert name of world creator here] is the parent of any creature in whatever world he/she/it made.
teshen

01-10-08, 03:51 PM
If you want an NPC that is only quasi-divine, make him a human with Divine Rank 0. That would grant him some immunities, natural immortality, maximum HP/HD, and his Cha bonus as a deflection bonus to his AC. You could make him otherwise human.
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Honestly, deities in general are mostly left up to the DM. It's your NPC, so decide what role you want him to play, and design his stats to fit that role. The players will probably never see his stat block anyways, so who cares what actual abilities you give him, unless they are needed for the game.
Agreed. Divine Rank 0.

If you don't mind odd, terribly not godlike versions, consider the Divine Minion Template (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a) or the feat that gives one 60' darkvision and the Outsider type... I think it's Otherworldly or something like that and I believe it's in the Player's Guide to Faerun. Both of my suggestions are more for one god and one human and the kid winds up more human than godlike...

"You're just like your mother."-Pelor
Legdiwena

01-10-08, 05:52 PM
Greek Titans were definitely strong, they almost destroyed Olympus and the gods.