questions of the 4e races [Archive] - Wizards Community

questions of the 4e races [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Juliomartell
08-20-07, 03:22 AM Well I was wondering if anyone had some luck of chance to get information EARLY ON before hand about what the races are going to include in the players handbook 4th edition. If you can possibly be able to post up your found information of said rules and regulations about different race abilities that might be included with what will be put in curtesy of new edition?

In other words, what has anyone found out about it by now?
Naderion
08-20-07, 10:57 AM Humans are surely in.
Elves are surely in.
Dwarves are surely in.

Halflings have been confirmed.
Half-elves have been confirmed.

Gnomes and Half-orcs have not been confirmed, but apparently it has been confirmed that one of the 3rd Ed. Races is out from the PHB.

There are a lot of pictures of some horned humanoids with lizard tails around. Some suspect them to be tieflings, but more probably it's some new race.
Orville_Oaksong
08-20-07, 12:45 PM God I hope Half-Orcs are gone...
Lanky Ogre Baggy Pants
08-20-07, 12:54 PM James Wyatt stated that since a tiefling is on the cover of (I can't remember if its the races preview book or the PHB) that you can assume tieflings will be in the first PHB. He also said that the are discussing leaving the gnome out of the first PHB. They also said that all PHBs, DMGs, and MMs will be considered core, not just the first iteration.
Treymordin
08-20-07, 01:01 PM Keep the gnomes and get rid of the half-orcs.
Juliomartell
08-20-07, 02:21 PM Anyone with info or guesses no what new abilities the races are gonna get?
Angel Black
08-20-07, 02:28 PM Guess:

Variant racial traits for all the core races (as kobold)

kobold and goblins became core races

Racial feats and Racial Class Levels
Xeviat-DM
08-20-07, 02:28 PM You can't really get rid of the Half-Orcs, based on racial balance:

Human is the neutral race
Elf is the dextrous race
Dwarf is the hardy race
Half-orc is the strong race
Halfling is the small race

Then, half-elves exist wherever humans and elves are. They could also be the charismatic race.
Aasimar could be the wise race.
Tiefling could be the smart race.

Who knows. But I suspect that Gnomes don't have as much of a place as they used to. Out of all of the players I know, I only know one person who likes Gnomes.
Juliomartell
08-20-07, 02:32 PM Ya know it's fun making guesses. Since half-dragon is getting popular somehow, what are your guesses of them involving such a system with Half-D?
jetpack
08-20-07, 04:39 PM I heard that Gnomes got the X from the 4e PHB
CelticMutt
08-20-07, 06:00 PM Confirmed:
Humans
Elves
Dwarves
Half-Elves
Tieflings

Unknowns:
Halflings
Half-Orcs

Rumored Gone:
Gnomes

Hoped for by a rather vocal fanbase:
Kobolds
Spikes01k
08-20-07, 10:47 PM My sources say Gnome got the Ax.

This guy gave me a good 411 on 4e coming out 2 months ahead of time.
Juliomartell
08-21-07, 12:02 AM Wow...let us take a moment of silence while we string forth the final sadness of the loosing of such a mini little tone deaf bardic race and pray that...the bard class goes down with the son of a *****es...
Goldenbane
08-21-07, 12:45 AM If gnomes got the axe, I will be quite happy. I really didn't understand the point of them. They were so closely related to dwarves throughout their entire history, that I always wondered why they didn't just become a subrace of Dwarf.
Juliomartell
08-21-07, 01:03 AM Me...I just play the game.
Alchahest
08-21-07, 01:04 AM just be aware that the silence is just a whisper gnome sneaking up on you. we don't know facts yet, let's not jump to conclusions.

that said, if gnomes are not axed, I would love to see them more prevalent. they're not very well represented among the playerbase. not that it's wizards' fault. but something to make them just a little more enticing to a broader base would be rad.
Kadasbrass
08-21-07, 01:34 AM Keep the gnomes and get rid of the half-orcs.

Gnomes really don't have a real place in dnd, they seem to just be an afterthought. Their too much like dwarfs stat wise, and flavor wise they and halfling just compete over the same area. Really its just better to get rid of either gnome or halfling (in the latter case expand the gnome into the traditional halfling place). Half-orcs can stay, but they just need a make over.
ORC_Paradox
08-21-07, 06:33 AM All 4e posts belong on the 4e board. Thanks.

http://forums.gleemax.com/forumdisplay.php?f=686

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Juliomartell 08-20-07, 03:22 AM	Well I was wondering if anyone had some luck of chance to get information EARLY ON before hand about what the races are going to include in the players handbook 4th edition. If you can possibly be able to post up your found information of said rules and regulations about different race abilities that might be included with what will be put in curtesy of new edition? In other words, what has anyone found out about it by now?
Naderion 08-20-07, 10:57 AM	Humans are surely in. Elves are surely in. Dwarves are surely in. Halflings have been confirmed. Half-elves have been confirmed. Gnomes and Half-orcs have not been confirmed, but apparently it has been confirmed that one of the 3rd Ed. Races is out from the PHB. There are a lot of pictures of some horned humanoids with lizard tails around. Some suspect them to be tieflings, but more probably it's some new race.
Orville_Oaksong 08-20-07, 12:45 PM	God I hope Half-Orcs are gone...
Lanky Ogre Baggy Pants 08-20-07, 12:54 PM	James Wyatt stated that since a tiefling is on the cover of (I can't remember if its the races preview book or the PHB) that you can assume tieflings will be in the first PHB. He also said that the are discussing leaving the gnome out of the first PHB. They also said that all PHBs, DMGs, and MMs will be considered core, not just the first iteration.
Treymordin 08-20-07, 01:01 PM	Keep the gnomes and get rid of the half-orcs.
Juliomartell 08-20-07, 02:21 PM	Anyone with info or guesses no what new abilities the races are gonna get?
Angel Black 08-20-07, 02:28 PM	Guess: Variant racial traits for all the core races (as kobold) kobold and goblins became core races Racial feats and Racial Class Levels
Xeviat-DM 08-20-07, 02:28 PM	You can't really get rid of the Half-Orcs, based on racial balance: Human is the neutral race Elf is the dextrous race Dwarf is the hardy race Half-orc is the strong race Halfling is the small race Then, half-elves exist wherever humans and elves are. They could also be the charismatic race. Aasimar could be the wise race. Tiefling could be the smart race. Who knows. But I suspect that Gnomes don't have as much of a place as they used to. Out of all of the players I know, I only know one person who likes Gnomes.
Juliomartell 08-20-07, 02:32 PM	Ya know it's fun making guesses. Since half-dragon is getting popular somehow, what are your guesses of them involving such a system with Half-D?
jetpack 08-20-07, 04:39 PM	I heard that Gnomes got the X from the 4e PHB
CelticMutt 08-20-07, 06:00 PM	Confirmed: Humans Elves Dwarves Half-Elves Tieflings Unknowns: Halflings Half-Orcs Rumored Gone: Gnomes Hoped for by a rather vocal fanbase: Kobolds
Spikes01k 08-20-07, 10:47 PM	My sources say Gnome got the Ax. This guy gave me a good 411 on 4e coming out 2 months ahead of time.
Juliomartell 08-21-07, 12:02 AM	Wow...let us take a moment of silence while we string forth the final sadness of the loosing of such a mini little tone deaf bardic race and pray that...the bard class goes down with the son of a *****es...
Goldenbane 08-21-07, 12:45 AM	If gnomes got the axe, I will be quite happy. I really didn't understand the point of them. They were so closely related to dwarves throughout their entire history, that I always wondered why they didn't just become a subrace of Dwarf.
Juliomartell 08-21-07, 01:03 AM	Me...I just play the game.
Alchahest 08-21-07, 01:04 AM	just be aware that the silence is just a whisper gnome sneaking up on you. we don't know facts yet, let's not jump to conclusions. that said, if gnomes are not axed, I would love to see them more prevalent. they're not very well represented among the playerbase. not that it's wizards' fault. but something to make them just a little more enticing to a broader base would be rad.
Kadasbrass 08-21-07, 01:34 AM	Keep the gnomes and get rid of the half-orcs. Gnomes really don't have a real place in dnd, they seem to just be an afterthought. Their too much like dwarfs stat wise, and flavor wise they and halfling just compete over the same area. Really its just better to get rid of either gnome or halfling (in the latter case expand the gnome into the traditional halfling place). Half-orcs can stay, but they just need a make over.
ORC_Paradox 08-21-07, 06:33 AM	All 4e posts belong on the 4e board. Thanks. http://forums.gleemax.com/forumdisplay.php?f=686