Race with a wisdom bonus. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Race with a wisdom bonus. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Freakatheart80
05-02-07, 01:03 PM I am looking for a race that gets a racial bonus to wisdom. I really don't like playing anything with more than a +1 LA. Are there any such races out there. If so what book are they in?
Garonak
05-02-07, 01:44 PM Aasimar from Monsters Manual. +2 wis, cha, LA+1
Buomman from Planar Handbook (can only hum/sing, not talk). +2 wis, -2 cha. LA +0
The_Shaman
05-02-07, 02:02 PM 3.0 Vanara from Oriental Adventures: -2 str, +2 int, +2 wis.
Freakatheart80
05-02-07, 02:03 PM Oh yeah I forgot about the Aasimar. I think I've heard of a lesser Aasimar. What's the deal w/them do they still get the +2 to wis & cha?
bobothechimp
05-02-07, 04:31 PM Lesser Aasimar has all the same traits, the only difference is the type and subtype.
AMGriffin
05-02-07, 06:52 PM So yeah, go lesser aasimar if you can. They're hideously broken! :D
BugHunter
05-02-07, 07:56 PM So yeah, go lesser aasimar if you can. They're hideously broken! :D

They still get all stuff of the regular aasimar but now they are listed as humanoids with the planetouched subtype. That means charm person and banishment will work on them see Player's Guide to Faerun page 191.
AMGriffin
05-02-07, 08:32 PM ...Yes...but they also get a +2 bonus to two abilities, an SLA, and resistance to several elements.

That's pretty heavy for LA+0.
Board_Rider
05-02-07, 08:48 PM Raptorans get a +2 to Wisdom. Races of the Wild I believe is the book that they are in.
MethaneGranola
05-02-07, 09:30 PM uldra from frostburn!! they have plus to wisdom and con, they are small, minus to str, and they're FEY! amazing! +1 LA
runestar
05-02-07, 10:11 PM Jermlaine from MM2. +6wis, but severe physical stat penalties.
Chimaera2000
05-03-07, 12:20 AM Raptorans really get a Wisdom bonus? Huh, I didn't realize that.... between that, being able to fly and the raptoran cleric substitution levels, they have a lot going for them.
nytemare3701
05-03-07, 12:42 AM could anyone link me the lesser aasimar? or maybe a page number for a book?
bobothechimp
05-03-07, 12:54 AM Player's Guide to Faerun, IIRC. Page 191.
WhiteRaven810
05-03-07, 12:57 AM 3.0 Vanara from Oriental Adventures: -2 str, +2 int, +2 wis.

If you go by the Oriental Adventures update in Dragon magazine, the Vanara had all their stat modifer's removed.
nytemare3701
05-03-07, 01:11 AM Players guide to faerun 191 just says how to turn an Aasimar into a lesser aasimar. where's the Aasimar i'm supposed to change...
Perun
05-03-07, 01:20 AM Players guide to faerun 191 just says how to turn an Aasimar into a lesser aasimar. where's the Aasimar i'm supposed to change...

Monster Manual (p. 209, under "Planetouched"), Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (just change light spell like ability to daylight, since FRCS is 3.0), and Races of Destiny (p. 92). The latter two (FRCS and RoD) have it in PC format.

Zenythri, another planetouched race (descended form lawful outsiders) also has Wisdom bonus. It's in the Monster Maual II (p. 170.)
AZNsupermarket
05-03-07, 11:15 PM Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to wisdom:

Anthropomorphic Bat: -4 Str +6 Wis -2 Cha, small, 5 ft. (fly 20 ft. average), blindsense (ex), druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Anthropomorphic Lizard: -4 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 20 ft., druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Anthropomorphic Monkey: -4 Str +2 Dex +4Wis -2 Cha, small, 30 ft., druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Anthropomorphic Rat: -4 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 15 ft., rogue, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Anthropomorphic Raven: -6 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 10 ft. (fly 30ft. poor), rogue, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Anthropomorphic Toad: -4 Str -2 Dex +6 Wis -2 Cha, small, 5 ft., cleric, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Anthropomorphic Weasel: -4 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 20 ft., attach (ex), druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215

Jermlaine: -6 Str +6 Dex -2 Con -2 Int +6 Wis -6 Cha, tiny, 40 ft., rogue, fey, monster manual 2 pg.131

Buomman: +2 Wis -2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., monk, humanoid (buomman, extraplanar), planar handbook pg.08

"Lesser" Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191

Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, humanoid (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39

Vanara: -2 Str +2 Int +2 Wis, medium, 30 ft. climb 20 ft., spirit shaman, humanoid (vanara), oriental adventures pg.15 – Note:[/U] in a 3.5 oriental adventures update found in Dragon magazine, vanara were update to no longer have any ability score adjustments.

You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to wis (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ablity adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these, especially for the Buomman, who would RAW lose their vow of silence when they become a Dragonborn of Bahamut.

Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5

Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Freakatheart80 05-02-07, 01:03 PM	I am looking for a race that gets a racial bonus to wisdom. I really don't like playing anything with more than a +1 LA. Are there any such races out there. If so what book are they in?
Garonak 05-02-07, 01:44 PM	Aasimar from Monsters Manual. +2 wis, cha, LA+1 Buomman from Planar Handbook (can only hum/sing, not talk). +2 wis, -2 cha. LA +0
The_Shaman 05-02-07, 02:02 PM	3.0 Vanara from Oriental Adventures: -2 str, +2 int, +2 wis.
Freakatheart80 05-02-07, 02:03 PM	Oh yeah I forgot about the Aasimar. I think I've heard of a lesser Aasimar. What's the deal w/them do they still get the +2 to wis & cha?
bobothechimp 05-02-07, 04:31 PM	Lesser Aasimar has all the same traits, the only difference is the type and subtype.
AMGriffin 05-02-07, 06:52 PM	So yeah, go lesser aasimar if you can. They're hideously broken! :D
BugHunter 05-02-07, 07:56 PM	So yeah, go lesser aasimar if you can. They're hideously broken! :D They still get all stuff of the regular aasimar but now they are listed as humanoids with the planetouched subtype. That means charm person and banishment will work on them see Player's Guide to Faerun page 191.
AMGriffin 05-02-07, 08:32 PM	...Yes...but they also get a +2 bonus to two abilities, an SLA, and resistance to several elements. That's pretty heavy for LA+0.
Board_Rider 05-02-07, 08:48 PM	Raptorans get a +2 to Wisdom. Races of the Wild I believe is the book that they are in.
MethaneGranola 05-02-07, 09:30 PM	uldra from frostburn!! they have plus to wisdom and con, they are small, minus to str, and they're FEY! amazing! +1 LA
runestar 05-02-07, 10:11 PM	Jermlaine from MM2. +6wis, but severe physical stat penalties.
Chimaera2000 05-03-07, 12:20 AM	Raptorans really get a Wisdom bonus? Huh, I didn't realize that.... between that, being able to fly and the raptoran cleric substitution levels, they have a lot going for them.
nytemare3701 05-03-07, 12:42 AM	could anyone link me the lesser aasimar? or maybe a page number for a book?
bobothechimp 05-03-07, 12:54 AM	Player's Guide to Faerun, IIRC. Page 191.
WhiteRaven810 05-03-07, 12:57 AM	3.0 Vanara from Oriental Adventures: -2 str, +2 int, +2 wis. If you go by the Oriental Adventures update in Dragon magazine, the Vanara had all their stat modifer's removed.
nytemare3701 05-03-07, 01:11 AM	Players guide to faerun 191 just says how to turn an Aasimar into a lesser aasimar. where's the Aasimar i'm supposed to change...
Perun 05-03-07, 01:20 AM	Players guide to faerun 191 just says how to turn an Aasimar into a lesser aasimar. where's the Aasimar i'm supposed to change... Monster Manual (p. 209, under "Planetouched"), Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (just change light spell like ability to daylight, since FRCS is 3.0), and Races of Destiny (p. 92). The latter two (FRCS and RoD) have it in PC format. Zenythri, another planetouched race (descended form lawful outsiders) also has Wisdom bonus. It's in the Monster Maual II (p. 170.)
AZNsupermarket 05-03-07, 11:15 PM	Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to wisdom: Anthropomorphic Bat: -4 Str +6 Wis -2 Cha, small, 5 ft. (fly 20 ft. average), blindsense (ex), druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Anthropomorphic Lizard: -4 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 20 ft., druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Anthropomorphic Monkey: -4 Str +2 Dex +4Wis -2 Cha, small, 30 ft., druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Anthropomorphic Rat: -4 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 15 ft., rogue, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Anthropomorphic Raven: -6 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 10 ft. (fly 30ft. poor), rogue, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Anthropomorphic Toad: -4 Str -2 Dex +6 Wis -2 Cha, small, 5 ft., cleric, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Anthropomorphic Weasel: -4 Str +2 Dex +4 Wis -4 Cha, small, 20 ft., attach (ex), druid, monstrous humanoid, savage species pg.215 Jermlaine: -6 Str +6 Dex -2 Con -2 Int +6 Wis -6 Cha, tiny, 40 ft., rogue, fey, monster manual 2 pg.131 Buomman: +2 Wis -2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., monk, humanoid (buomman, extraplanar), planar handbook pg.08 "Lesser" Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191 Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, humanoid (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39 Vanara: -2 Str +2 Int +2 Wis, medium, 30 ft. climb 20 ft., spirit shaman, humanoid (vanara), oriental adventures pg.15 – Note:[/U] in a 3.5 oriental adventures update found in Dragon magazine, vanara were update to no longer have any ability score adjustments. You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to wis (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ablity adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these, especially for the Buomman, who would RAW lose their vow of silence when they become a Dragonborn of Bahamut. Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5 Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.