Post/Author/DateTime	Post
StoneSinger 02-06-08, 09:10 PM	I remember seeing a version of Vhaerun done with red hair, and I have also seen a lot of fan art depicting red haired drow. So, drow with red hair, what does everyone think?
JLaurHughes 02-06-08, 11:18 PM	The hair is dyed :P
celestialkin 02-06-08, 11:42 PM	OK we have black drow, white/albino drow, and now red drow. What about some brown/south of the border drow? :D
ciaran 02-07-08, 12:01 AM	Don't forget the blue-assed tree dwelling drow.
celestialkin 02-07-08, 12:13 AM	Don't forget the blue-assed tree dwelling drow. Was that a joke, or were you being serious. With D&D you just never know.
sigma999 02-07-08, 12:57 AM	No, really. Powerful drow males get silver backs, signifying their age and status. They beat their chests and use arm signals to communicate. And... eat bananas.
StoneSinger 02-07-08, 03:04 AM	Wow in just a few posts the entire thread was skull raped.
Mad_Jack 02-07-08, 03:43 AM	Wow in just a few posts the entire thread was skull raped. There are sooo many really in-poor-taste comments I could make linking the above statement to the original topic of this post... But I won't. Okay, now that I've rolled in the mud, how about I actually answer the question.... Um, I'd personally feel that if you were gonna go for an alternate hair color on a drow, it should be something bright - if it's red, it should be cherry red or bright flame orange rather than just auburn or strawberry blonde. I should note, though, that I'm approaching the issue mainly from a mini painter's perspective - any basically contrasting color to their black/blue/purple/pick-your-favorite-illustration skintone would work fine.
1 ton ghost 02-07-08, 03:05 PM	what do i think? artistic license and nothing more. adopting one person's interpretation as gospel can't end well i'm sure. like all the white Jesus' you see out there. yeah, he was Hebrew, not caucasian, but enough ppl got this image in their mind and viola... drow, should realistically be white skinned w/ little or no hair. but, we got the big Curse and all that as a mark of their treachery and bla bla bla. Vheaerun's a god, w/ trickery no less in his repetoir. having red hair i'm sure is well w/in his powers i'm sure.
Shiftkitty 02-07-08, 03:21 PM	I have an entire family of drow in my game whose main physical characteristic is amber eyes with lightly reddish-orange hair. They consider it a mark of genetic purity, while other drow consider proof of surface elf blood. I also use green-eyed drow (deep, emerald green) as having a general tendency towards psionics. (Not all psionic drow are green eyed in my game, but all green-eyed drow are psionic.)
sigma999 02-08-08, 01:38 AM	Wow in just a few posts the entire thread was skull raped. Well, you know... inane topic, inane responses.
Lord Karsus 02-09-08, 09:29 AM	Well, you know... inane topic, inane responses. -This is the second thread he opened on the topic, too. -As I said before, Vhaeraun is a deity. He can appear however he wants to appear.
sigma999 02-10-08, 10:47 PM	-This is the second thread he opened on the topic, too. -As I said before, Vhaeraun is a deity. He can appear however he wants to appear. Aha. In that case it's well deserved, then. And in defense of the average drow, most gamers do expect every racial depiction to fall within narrow specifications defined by example images provided by the core rules books. Bugbears and hobgoblins, for instance, are both overdone and starkly homogenous to the point of making me write very nasty, unforgiving hate mail to the art directors and artists, and not write 'sincerely' at the bottom. But really, if the dude wants red hair, he has red hair. Grognards need to lighten up; not every drow is a female leatherclad dark-grey skinned white-haired S/M freak.
Nirid 02-10-08, 11:27 PM	But really, if the dude wants red hair, he has red hair. Grognards need to lighten up; not every drow is a female leatherclad dark-grey skinned white-haired S/M freak. Of course not. There is also Drizzt.
Lord Karsus 02-11-08, 12:14 AM	Of course not. There is also Drizzt. -Drizzt is a female leatherclad dark-grey skinned white-haired S/M freak. Well, he acts like one, anyway.
sigma999 02-11-08, 01:08 AM	Of course not. There is also Drizzt. Ah, pardons. My mind must have automatically rejected his existence.
Nirid 02-11-08, 08:19 AM	Ah, pardons. My mind must have automatically rejected his existence. You are referring to the individual. I was referring to the sub-race.
Legdiwena 02-11-08, 08:20 PM	Don't forget the blue-assed tree dwelling drow. Those are called your plain average variety elf with a dye job.
ToastedAmphibian 02-11-08, 08:53 PM	Dont most drow featured in campagines end up Red anyways? I know i like making drow red.....
EdrickTheGreat 02-11-08, 11:03 PM	Bugbears and hobgoblins, for instance, are both overdone and starkly homogenous to the point of making me write very nasty, unforgiving hate mail to the art directors and artists, and not write 'sincerely' at the bottom. Whats wrong with Bugbears?..
Lord Karsus 02-12-08, 12:12 AM	I know i like making drow red..... -As in coated with their own blood red.
key 02-12-08, 12:25 AM	From the old Drow of the Underdark, "Drow vary in shape, features, and hair color as greatly as humans do."
ciaran 02-12-08, 01:04 AM	Bugbears and hobgoblins, for instance, are both overdone and starkly homogenous to the point of making me write very nasty, unforgiving hate mail to the art directors and artists, and not write 'sincerely' at the bottom. Good point. I imagine those artists don't spend nearly the time drawing Hobgoblins and Bugbears as they do elves or dragons. It makes sense that the variety comes from drawing the same creatures again and again.
MadPrak_Mark2 02-12-08, 01:29 AM	what do i think? artistic license and nothing more. adopting one person's interpretation as gospel can't end well i'm sure. like all the white Jesus' you see out there. yeah, he was Hebrew, not caucasian, but enough ppl got this image in their mind and viola... drow, should realistically be white skinned w/ little or no hair. but, we got the big Curse and all that as a mark of their treachery and bla bla bla. Vheaerun's a god, w/ trickery no less in his repetoir. having red hair i'm sure is well w/in his powers i'm sure. Yup. They is dark-hidened t'mark their evil! Fry mah hide! I'll git th' rope! Bubba, git them sheets, we've got some Favo'ed Enemah t'use! ah's purdy sho'nuff Rufus has got some Smite Evil t'use too. We'll wo'ry about them brown-hidened, wall-jumpin' goblins an' olive tree huggers later! Fry mah hide! (Redneck accent courtesy of The Dialectizer (http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/)) on a more serious, less defamatory note... Red hair is traditionally a sign of evil too. and my girlfriend says they should have glow in the dark hair so you can see them walking around in the underdark.
sigma999 02-12-08, 12:51 PM	and my girlfriend says they should have glow in the dark hair so you can see them walking around in the underdark. lulz... seconded You are referring to the individual. I was referring to the sub-race. Of course! The Drizzt subrace of Drow. "Humanoid (Elf, Drizzt)" They are a population of male good Drow born with dual baby scimitars in hand, a budding green cloak, a semi-emo savior complex, and a vestigial panther.
Legdiwena 02-12-08, 12:59 PM	I thought eyes always glowed red when using any enhanced vision?
Wolf72 02-12-08, 04:36 PM	Dungeon Mag from a few years back that reintroduced SpellJammer had drow ... the artists depiction gave them purple skin as well as black.
Eldritch_Lord 02-12-08, 04:47 PM	on a more serious, less defamatory note... Red hair is traditionally a sign of evil too. :ahem: Speaking as someone with red hair... ...we're lawful evil. How dare you compare us to drow!? I thought eyes always glowed red when using any enhanced vision? Only in 1e and 2e, when darkvision was called "infravision" and described as some sort of sonar-like heat projection thingy. Now, it's just seeing in the dark, no color-change invovled.
Lord Karsus 02-12-08, 08:05 PM	Only in 1e and 2e, when darkvision was called "infravision" and described as some sort of sonar-like heat projection thingy. Now, it's just seeing in the dark, no color-change invovled. -Mechanically, Infravision and Darkvision aren't the same. I have 3e rules for Infravision laying around somewhere.
Kobold_Avenger 02-12-08, 10:08 PM	Deep fried drow are tasty when covered in ketchup!
Eldritch_Lord 02-13-08, 04:56 PM	-Mechanically, Infravision and Darkvision aren't the same. I have 3e rules for Infravision laying around somewhere. That's basically what I said--infravision and darkvision work differently, and have different fluff, based on heat projection vs. "night vision" mechanics. I would like to see the 3e infravision rules if you can find them, though.
ToastedAmphibian 02-13-08, 05:16 PM	Deep fried drow are tasty when covered in ketchup! I like the way you think! And your avatar.....