Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Draginja 05-25-07, 12:14 PM	Quick question... What is the LA for a Shocker Lizard. They are found in the Monster Manual, for those who don't know.
Evicmar 05-25-07, 01:18 PM	There is no LA for them cause they are not smart enough to play. Int 2
Draginja 05-25-07, 01:54 PM	Not so. Check youy 3.0 MM p.164. Int 5. If you don't like it, leave. The 3.0 stats still apply around here, don't they?
Vharuck 05-25-07, 01:58 PM	Not so. Check youy 3.0 MM p.164. Int 5. If you don't like it, leave. The 3.0 stats still apply around here, don't they? Do you really need to be so abrasive?
lint trap 05-25-07, 02:08 PM	Not so. Check youy 3.0 MM p.164. Int 5. If you don't like it, leave. The 3.0 stats still apply around here, don't they? Not when they've been changed in the conversion. Abilities: Str 10, Dex 15, Con 13, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6 And please don't be a jerk. The guy was just answering your question.
Mindolin 05-25-07, 02:09 PM	Not so. Check youy 3.0 MM p.164. Int 5. If you don't like it, leave. The 3.0 stats still apply around here, don't they? No, the 3.0 stats don't really apply, as they have been updated to 3.5 and have Int 2. I have to agree, you are being abrasive and are wrong. Now, if you want to play 3.0, you should mention that in your first post and realize that level adjustments from that era are almost as effective as the psionic combat modes from the 3.0 Psionics Handbook.
edventure 05-25-07, 02:18 PM	psionic combat modes from the 3.0 Psionics Handbook. Now, now, no reason to invoke the unholy. :gah:
KoraktheBarbarin 05-25-07, 02:21 PM	Bad Karma begets Bad Karma!!!!;) ;)
Draginja 05-25-07, 02:32 PM	Firstly, this took off rather quickly. Lot of posters here... Second, sorry to anyone I offended. I don't think I was that abrasive... Tres, I was unaware at the time of the Int drop for Shockers. Why did they do that, anyway? Fourth, Please leave psionics out of this conversation. It has it's own forum. So what you guys are basically saying is awaken the Lizard first, eh? If I do, what then about it's LA? I'm kinda serious about needing the info... I look forward to recieving answers soon!
Dead_Weasel 05-25-07, 04:47 PM	Firstly, this took off rather quickly. Lot of posters here... Second, sorry to anyone I offended. I don't think I was that abrasive... Tres, I was unaware at the time of the Int drop for Shockers. Why did they do that, anyway? Fourth, Please leave psionics out of this conversation. It has it's own forum. So what you guys are basically saying is awaken the Lizard first, eh? If I do, what then about it's LA? I'm kinda serious about needing the info... I look forward to recieving answers soon! 2) If you don't like it, leave. The 3.0 stats still apply around here, don't they?No, they do not. 3.0 anything only applies if it has not been updated, and material in that state is by and large considered to hold a sort of 3.25 status. 3) That is a piece of information that is available for free, and whatever the reason for the change is, it has occurred. 4) He was making a joke. Taking offense accomplishes very little. Awaken can only target animals or trees, and a shocker lizard is neither. Besides, it is a spell. Since spells have their own forum, by your own logic this is not a subject for discussion here. Since I abide by my own logic instead of yours, I will mention in passing that Dragon 304 has a spell called awaken magical beast, although it is a 9th-level Druid spell. Creatures that do not have LAs do not have them for a reason: they are ill-suited for use as characters. Their use as characters is an issue that requires heavy DM arbitration and because of this their ECL will vary from game to game, depending largely on the manner in which they are used.