Sleight Build (Racial ability, PEACH) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Sleight Build (Racial ability, PEACH) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Aleolus
02-13-08, 01:57 PM After thinking about the Powerful Build ability for a while, I got to wondering why there wasn't one that went the other way. So, I came up with this!

Sleight Build
You are very slim and light for your kind, and can get places they would normally be too big for.
Benefit: You are treated as one size category smaller than you actually are whenever being smaller would provide a bonus. A medium-sized creature with this ability is treated as small size for their Hide and Move Silently bonuses, attack rolls, and AC, but does not have the reduced carrying capacity, their weapons are not reduced, and they do not take the -4 size penalty that Small creatures normally take on grapple checks.
Special: A creature with Sleight Build cannot benefit from any effect that would provide the Powerful Build ability, nor can anyone who possesses Powerful Build benefit from Sleight Build. If someone with one ability would gain the other, they only use the one they already possessed.
feistykobold
02-13-08, 05:12 PM The smart guys over at WoTC thought of that too actually.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a

Its a little way down the page. I guess great minds think alike.
Aleolus
02-13-08, 11:30 PM Well, you could make it a feat, like Powerful Build, I guess. Or would that be too powerful for most player characters?
Pangeon
02-14-08, 02:17 AM Well, let's just say I'd take a feat for a +1 to hit with any weapon, a +1 to AC, a +4 to hide checks, and a bunch of situational benifits. (i.e. small chars with slight build can enter other PCs spaces with out penalty, etc.)

:D
Captain_Kobold
02-14-08, 07:46 AM Well, you could make it a feat, like Powerful Build, I guess. Or would that be too powerful for most player characters?

Powerful buiild is not a feat. It would be too powerful, and not really to the flavor to simply be available as a feat. Slight build is still a little too powerful for a feat, but less so.

Your version of Slight build (Sleight build) is even more powerful than the official version, since you added in the AC and to hit bonuses.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Aleolus 02-13-08, 01:57 PM	After thinking about the Powerful Build ability for a while, I got to wondering why there wasn't one that went the other way. So, I came up with this! Sleight Build You are very slim and light for your kind, and can get places they would normally be too big for. Benefit: You are treated as one size category smaller than you actually are whenever being smaller would provide a bonus. A medium-sized creature with this ability is treated as small size for their Hide and Move Silently bonuses, attack rolls, and AC, but does not have the reduced carrying capacity, their weapons are not reduced, and they do not take the -4 size penalty that Small creatures normally take on grapple checks. Special: A creature with Sleight Build cannot benefit from any effect that would provide the Powerful Build ability, nor can anyone who possesses Powerful Build benefit from Sleight Build. If someone with one ability would gain the other, they only use the one they already possessed.
feistykobold 02-13-08, 05:12 PM	The smart guys over at WoTC thought of that too actually. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a Its a little way down the page. I guess great minds think alike.
Aleolus 02-13-08, 11:30 PM	Well, you could make it a feat, like Powerful Build, I guess. Or would that be too powerful for most player characters?
Pangeon 02-14-08, 02:17 AM	Well, let's just say I'd take a feat for a +1 to hit with any weapon, a +1 to AC, a +4 to hide checks, and a bunch of situational benifits. (i.e. small chars with slight build can enter other PCs spaces with out penalty, etc.) :D
Captain_Kobold 02-14-08, 07:46 AM	Well, you could make it a feat, like Powerful Build, I guess. Or would that be too powerful for most player characters? Powerful buiild is not a feat. It would be too powerful, and not really to the flavor to simply be available as a feat. Slight build is still a little too powerful for a feat, but less so. Your version of Slight build (Sleight build) is even more powerful than the official version, since you added in the AC and to hit bonuses.