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TheDarkPrince
06-27-07, 03:07 AM How would you guys stat out a creature with two-heads? Would you have no penalties for two-weapon fighting, not be flanked, etc?

Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks, Cheers! :D
KurenaiYami
06-27-07, 03:14 AM Savage Species has the multi-headed template.
sensestaker
06-27-07, 03:15 AM Multi-headed template from Savage Species tells you everything you need.

If you don't have that book, check out the ettin.
Rerecros
06-27-07, 03:17 AM There is no simple answer for that.
To gain all around vision, the creature would need to be able to see 360* around it at all times, ettins don't qualify.
Ettins have the two weapon fighting thing, but they weren't meant to be a PC race, so it doesn't specify wether one head controls only one arm, or the bodies functions my be more evenly divided between the two heads.
is there more than one personality? are both continously active? do they fight for control? Is one entirely dominant?
Is there more than one soul?
Where is the additional head(s) located?
sensestaker
06-27-07, 03:31 AM Now that I'm not racing to be the first to say Savage Species (I lost :P ) I'll go into more detail abouit how I have handled two heads.

SS lists the benefit of having 2 heads as Superior Two Weapon Fighting and says that each head controls an arm, treating both arms (and weapons) as primary attacks, meaning full attacks and attack bonus.

They get a bonus to spot, but are still subject to flanking. The problem with flanking is that you still have a front and a back.

As for attitude, that depends more on the individual than the number of heads-a chaotic creature would likely fight with itself, while a lawful creature probably wouldn't (btw, chaos+2 heads=FUN :D :D )
Rerecros
06-27-07, 03:34 AM What's more fun is two heads of opposing alignments :devil: :angel:
runestar
06-27-07, 03:38 AM Depends on the extent to which you wish to benefit from having 2 heads.

Chronotyn, Demogorgon and Bazim Gorag are able to take 2 full rounds of actions each round thanks to their dual minds. Obviously, this will net you a hefty LA as a PC special ability.

Stuff like not taking any TWFing penalties or immunity to flanking are still useful, but not as broken.

You could have 2 heads just for flavour, and perhaps represent this as a bonus to spot/listen checks etc.
sensestaker
06-27-07, 03:54 AM What's more fun is two heads of opposing alignments :devil: :angel:

That would be fun to play http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-1546.gif (http://planetsmilies.net) (the dm and other players would probably want to kill you, though)
TheDarkPrince
06-27-07, 04:08 AM Yeah, I had a look at Demogorgon's stats, and wow that two headed thing is broken! What about this template?

Two headed Mutant (http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/monsters/two-headed-mutant.html)?
TheDarkPrince
06-27-07, 03:47 PM How would you guys RP a character with two distinct personalities?

Thanks, Cheers! :D
Darth Sephiroth
06-27-07, 03:49 PM Enjoy (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20020621a)
TheDarkPrince
06-27-07, 04:02 PM That's perfect!!! :D

Thank you!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
TheDarkPrince 06-27-07, 03:07 AM	How would you guys stat out a creature with two-heads? Would you have no penalties for two-weapon fighting, not be flanked, etc? Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks, Cheers! :D
KurenaiYami 06-27-07, 03:14 AM	Savage Species has the multi-headed template.
sensestaker 06-27-07, 03:15 AM	Multi-headed template from Savage Species tells you everything you need. If you don't have that book, check out the ettin.
Rerecros 06-27-07, 03:17 AM	There is no simple answer for that. To gain all around vision, the creature would need to be able to see 360* around it at all times, ettins don't qualify. Ettins have the two weapon fighting thing, but they weren't meant to be a PC race, so it doesn't specify wether one head controls only one arm, or the bodies functions my be more evenly divided between the two heads. is there more than one personality? are both continously active? do they fight for control? Is one entirely dominant? Is there more than one soul? Where is the additional head(s) located?
sensestaker 06-27-07, 03:31 AM	Now that I'm not racing to be the first to say Savage Species (I lost :P ) I'll go into more detail abouit how I have handled two heads. SS lists the benefit of having 2 heads as Superior Two Weapon Fighting and says that each head controls an arm, treating both arms (and weapons) as primary attacks, meaning full attacks and attack bonus. They get a bonus to spot, but are still subject to flanking. The problem with flanking is that you still have a front and a back. As for attitude, that depends more on the individual than the number of heads-a chaotic creature would likely fight with itself, while a lawful creature probably wouldn't (btw, chaos+2 heads=FUN :D :D )
Rerecros 06-27-07, 03:34 AM	What's more fun is two heads of opposing alignments :devil: :angel:
runestar 06-27-07, 03:38 AM	Depends on the extent to which you wish to benefit from having 2 heads. Chronotyn, Demogorgon and Bazim Gorag are able to take 2 full rounds of actions each round thanks to their dual minds. Obviously, this will net you a hefty LA as a PC special ability. Stuff like not taking any TWFing penalties or immunity to flanking are still useful, but not as broken. You could have 2 heads just for flavour, and perhaps represent this as a bonus to spot/listen checks etc.
sensestaker 06-27-07, 03:54 AM	What's more fun is two heads of opposing alignments :devil: :angel: That would be fun to play http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-1546.gif (http://planetsmilies.net) (the dm and other players would probably want to kill you, though)
TheDarkPrince 06-27-07, 04:08 AM	Yeah, I had a look at Demogorgon's stats, and wow that two headed thing is broken! What about this template? Two headed Mutant (http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/monsters/two-headed-mutant.html)?
TheDarkPrince 06-27-07, 03:47 PM	How would you guys RP a character with two distinct personalities? Thanks, Cheers! :D
Darth Sephiroth 06-27-07, 03:49 PM	Enjoy (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20020621a)
TheDarkPrince 06-27-07, 04:02 PM	That's perfect!!! :D Thank you!