Undead Race? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Undead Race? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Skrillex
02-25-07, 04:58 PM I looked at the compendium at the top and saw undead, but when I clicked the link was off. I'm looking for like a skeleton race.

So i was wondering if anyone has the rules for this race or if there are any official races like this?

I'm looking for something like the scourge from Warcraft.

Thanks in advance.
Vagrond
02-25-07, 05:13 PM Necropolitan? Or you could use the bone template from BoVD
Master_Verhoffin
02-25-07, 05:14 PM The problem with using undead as player races is that most of them have crippling level adjustments. The only exception I can think of is a Necropolitan from Libris Mortis. It's a template that can be applied to any race that turns it into an intelligent undead. It's also +0 level adjustment, so it's easier to play than a lich or vampire.
Skrillex
02-25-07, 09:02 PM The problem with using undead as player races is that most of them have crippling level adjustments. The only exception I can think of is a Necropolitan from Libris Mortis. It's a template that can be applied to any race that turns it into an intelligent undead. It's also +0 level adjustment, so it's easier to play than a lich or vampire.That sounds good. Thanks.
Evilholyguy
07-24-07, 08:57 PM ok i kno of a skeleton race... called the Eleti... it is in the mythic races book ( im not lieing. its made by fantasy flight games) ok this is their traitrs:

+2 Dex

No CON

Only Med-small size

base speed is 30ft for medium and 20ft for small

Darkvision 60ft

+2 racial on hide and move silently

Immunities: cold damage and half from piercing and slashing weapons

Undead traits ( gee i wonder why)

Can be effected by Turns and Rebukes

Command undead allows them a will save (DC 10+ clerics level+ clerics CHA modifier)

Turn Resistance as general feat

Automatic languages: common

Bonus languages: any ( other than secret ones like druidic)

Fav Class: Fighter (why the hell is that?)

Oh and they can be any Alignment.
Lawlicron
07-24-07, 09:00 PM The problem with undead races is that their immunities and such warrant at least a +4 LA. Necropolitan is not an LA+0 template. It is an inherited template that gives you a negative level.
Genetic
07-25-07, 09:10 AM The problem with undead races is that their immunities and such warrant at least a +4 LA. Necropolitan is not an LA+0 template. It is an inherited template that gives you a negative level.

Well it's still technically LA +0. However, it does cause you to lose a level and 1000 extra XP (which might result in you losing another level). However, due to the nature of D&D said necropolitan character will eventually catch back up to the rest of the party, unlike with level adjustments.
RobbyPants
07-25-07, 09:18 AM Immunities: cold damage and half from piercing and slashing weapons
This seems like a bit of a hold-over from 3.0 (and is the same with the Bone Creature template from BoVD). It should probably be changed to Damage Reduction 5/bludgeoning.
Evilholyguy
07-25-07, 10:45 AM Yeah its an ok race... but since its undead it has a but load of special undead stuff (like being able to use negative energy to heal)
RobbyPants
07-25-07, 10:55 AM Yeah its an ok race... but since its undead it has a but load of special undead stuff (like being able to use negative energy to heal)
Anyone can do that with a feat. I think most of what makes undead powerful are their vast immunities (energy drain, ability drain and damage, stunning, critical hits, poison, disease, nonlethal damage, just to name a few).
redscizor
07-25-07, 10:59 AM deathtouched in one Dragon Magazine was +2wis +2cha -2con LA+1,

Player A:hello me grandfather is a Vampire
Player B: Nice me grandfather was a Anchor
Player C: excuse, bye, (aberrations creatures, me grandfathers was a commoner )
Lawlicron
07-25-07, 11:08 AM Well it's still technically LA +0. However, it does cause you to lose a level and 1000 extra XP (which might result in you losing another level). However, due to the nature of D&D said necropolitan character will eventually catch back up to the rest of the party, unlike with level adjustments.

Actually its an LA+1 if your going to let people start with it. Because you have to lose a level. You have to have a level to lose it. Its like saying "Ok everyone start off at level 3, except Dave, Dave can start at level 4 because he want so be necropolitan.".
Seldriss
07-25-07, 11:09 AM As an alternative, you can also consider the Forsaken, from World of Warcraft RPG (LA+0).
Evilholyguy
07-25-07, 11:55 AM Anyone can do that with a feat. I think most of what makes undead powerful are their vast immunities (energy drain, ability drain and damage, stunning, critical hits, poison, disease, nonlethal damage, just to name a few).

Your right. the undead have so many immunities that they make some of the best races ( in my oppinion ) My DM hates me because i always play some sort of Undead, demon, Dragon, or Abberation :88E:
Rerecros
07-25-07, 12:08 PM check out Nilthucians in my sig.
Infernostrider
07-25-07, 03:18 PM can't you just create a character and convert it to a skeleton using the regular monster manual? its not that hard for the DM to come up with a reason, if you're too lazy, that you remain sentient and good aligned if you want
Evilholyguy
07-25-07, 03:29 PM skeletons normaly dont have INT so they realy cant be PCs. If they are awakend then maybe...
Genetic
07-25-07, 05:10 PM Actually its an LA+1 if your going to let people start with it. Because you have to lose a level. You have to have a level to lose it. Its like saying "Ok everyone start off at level 3, except Dave, Dave can start at level 4 because he want so be necropolitan.".

The net effect is LA +1 yes, but the actual level adjustment entry is still "Same as base creature" which in the case of a human or something would be zero. :P
Patinho_Amarelo
07-26-07, 09:43 AM Bone Creature is a good one too.
Asra
07-26-07, 03:07 PM Gravetouched ghoul is GREAT for a mere +2 LA! You get great stat bonuses, attacks, and you can eat flesh. And the example given is a Lawful Neutral Monk! So the alignment is whatever you want!
Evilholyguy
07-27-07, 08:49 PM And the example given is a Lawful Neutral Monk! So the alignment is whatever you want!

Hmmmm i didnt notice that.... THAT IS FRICKEN AWSOME!!! i dont have to be evil to be a gravetouched ghoul!!!!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Skrillex 02-25-07, 04:58 PM	I looked at the compendium at the top and saw undead, but when I clicked the link was off. I'm looking for like a skeleton race. So i was wondering if anyone has the rules for this race or if there are any official races like this? I'm looking for something like the scourge from Warcraft. Thanks in advance.
Vagrond 02-25-07, 05:13 PM	Necropolitan? Or you could use the bone template from BoVD
Master_Verhoffin 02-25-07, 05:14 PM	The problem with using undead as player races is that most of them have crippling level adjustments. The only exception I can think of is a Necropolitan from Libris Mortis. It's a template that can be applied to any race that turns it into an intelligent undead. It's also +0 level adjustment, so it's easier to play than a lich or vampire.
Skrillex 02-25-07, 09:02 PM	The problem with using undead as player races is that most of them have crippling level adjustments. The only exception I can think of is a Necropolitan from Libris Mortis. It's a template that can be applied to any race that turns it into an intelligent undead. It's also +0 level adjustment, so it's easier to play than a lich or vampire.That sounds good. Thanks.
Evilholyguy 07-24-07, 08:57 PM	ok i kno of a skeleton race... called the Eleti... it is in the mythic races book ( im not lieing. its made by fantasy flight games) ok this is their traitrs: +2 Dex No CON Only Med-small size base speed is 30ft for medium and 20ft for small Darkvision 60ft +2 racial on hide and move silently Immunities: cold damage and half from piercing and slashing weapons Undead traits ( gee i wonder why) Can be effected by Turns and Rebukes Command undead allows them a will save (DC 10+ clerics level+ clerics CHA modifier) Turn Resistance as general feat Automatic languages: common Bonus languages: any ( other than secret ones like druidic) Fav Class: Fighter (why the hell is that?) Oh and they can be any Alignment.
Lawlicron 07-24-07, 09:00 PM	The problem with undead races is that their immunities and such warrant at least a +4 LA. Necropolitan is not an LA+0 template. It is an inherited template that gives you a negative level.
Genetic 07-25-07, 09:10 AM	The problem with undead races is that their immunities and such warrant at least a +4 LA. Necropolitan is not an LA+0 template. It is an inherited template that gives you a negative level. Well it's still technically LA +0. However, it does cause you to lose a level and 1000 extra XP (which might result in you losing another level). However, due to the nature of D&D said necropolitan character will eventually catch back up to the rest of the party, unlike with level adjustments.
RobbyPants 07-25-07, 09:18 AM	Immunities: cold damage and half from piercing and slashing weapons This seems like a bit of a hold-over from 3.0 (and is the same with the Bone Creature template from BoVD). It should probably be changed to Damage Reduction 5/bludgeoning.
Evilholyguy 07-25-07, 10:45 AM	Yeah its an ok race... but since its undead it has a but load of special undead stuff (like being able to use negative energy to heal)
RobbyPants 07-25-07, 10:55 AM	Yeah its an ok race... but since its undead it has a but load of special undead stuff (like being able to use negative energy to heal) Anyone can do that with a feat. I think most of what makes undead powerful are their vast immunities (energy drain, ability drain and damage, stunning, critical hits, poison, disease, nonlethal damage, just to name a few).
redscizor 07-25-07, 10:59 AM	deathtouched in one Dragon Magazine was +2wis +2cha -2con LA+1, Player A:hello me grandfather is a Vampire Player B: Nice me grandfather was a Anchor Player C: excuse, bye, (aberrations creatures, me grandfathers was a commoner )
Lawlicron 07-25-07, 11:08 AM	Well it's still technically LA +0. However, it does cause you to lose a level and 1000 extra XP (which might result in you losing another level). However, due to the nature of D&D said necropolitan character will eventually catch back up to the rest of the party, unlike with level adjustments. Actually its an LA+1 if your going to let people start with it. Because you have to lose a level. You have to have a level to lose it. Its like saying "Ok everyone start off at level 3, except Dave, Dave can start at level 4 because he want so be necropolitan.".
Seldriss 07-25-07, 11:09 AM	As an alternative, you can also consider the Forsaken, from World of Warcraft RPG (LA+0).
Evilholyguy 07-25-07, 11:55 AM	Anyone can do that with a feat. I think most of what makes undead powerful are their vast immunities (energy drain, ability drain and damage, stunning, critical hits, poison, disease, nonlethal damage, just to name a few). Your right. the undead have so many immunities that they make some of the best races ( in my oppinion ) My DM hates me because i always play some sort of Undead, demon, Dragon, or Abberation :88E:
Rerecros 07-25-07, 12:08 PM	check out Nilthucians in my sig.
Infernostrider 07-25-07, 03:18 PM	can't you just create a character and convert it to a skeleton using the regular monster manual? its not that hard for the DM to come up with a reason, if you're too lazy, that you remain sentient and good aligned if you want
Evilholyguy 07-25-07, 03:29 PM	skeletons normaly dont have INT so they realy cant be PCs. If they are awakend then maybe...
Genetic 07-25-07, 05:10 PM	Actually its an LA+1 if your going to let people start with it. Because you have to lose a level. You have to have a level to lose it. Its like saying "Ok everyone start off at level 3, except Dave, Dave can start at level 4 because he want so be necropolitan.". The net effect is LA +1 yes, but the actual level adjustment entry is still "Same as base creature" which in the case of a human or something would be zero. :P
Patinho_Amarelo 07-26-07, 09:43 AM	Bone Creature is a good one too.
Asra 07-26-07, 03:07 PM	Gravetouched ghoul is GREAT for a mere +2 LA! You get great stat bonuses, attacks, and you can eat flesh. And the example given is a Lawful Neutral Monk! So the alignment is whatever you want!
Evilholyguy 07-27-07, 08:49 PM	And the example given is a Lawful Neutral Monk! So the alignment is whatever you want! Hmmmm i didnt notice that.... THAT IS FRICKEN AWSOME!!! i dont have to be evil to be a gravetouched ghoul!!!!