Vampire Death [Archive] - Wizards Community

Vampire Death [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
cato
07-14-07, 01:13 PM Is a vampire killed by effects such as greater turning and/or disintegration?
Thomar_of_Uointer
07-14-07, 04:35 PM Is a vampire killed by effects such as greater turning and/or disintegration?

Greater turning can kill a vampire (if the cleric or paladin successfully makes the checks), but the vampire will just turn to gas and fly back to its coffin as normal.

Disintegration can also kill a vampire. Although the effect requires a Fortitude save, it also works on objects (and thus undead according to the undead creature type's immunities). Again, the vampire just turns to gas and flies back to its coffin.
Muglock
07-14-07, 04:38 PM Speaking of vampires, any templates for Vampire Lords or some sort of ranking system like Lich's have?
cato
07-16-07, 10:55 AM Greater turning can kill a vampire (if the cleric or paladin successfully makes the checks), but the vampire will just turn to gas and fly back to its coffin as normal.

Disintegration can also kill a vampire. Although the effect requires a Fortitude save, it also works on objects (and thus undead according to the undead creature type's immunities). Again, the vampire just turns to gas and flies back to its coffin.

I think some previous thread on a subject similar to this mentioned that greater turning destroys a vampire without giving him a chance to transform in a gaseous cloud at 0 hp.

I thought something similar might be true for disintegration.

Also, does flesh to stone work an a vampire ( I recall seeing a use of stone to flesh turning walls into flesh)
Taelohn
07-16-07, 11:42 AM A vampire automatically assumes gaseous form and flees if reduced to 0 hit points. Some attacks (greater turning, sunbeam, sunburst, two rounds of exposure to sunlight, three rounds of immersion in running water, a critical hit from a vorpal sword, decapitation after being staked) can destroy a vampire outright, rather than reducing its hit points, in which case it's gone for good.
ArcTan
07-16-07, 11:01 PM The Gaseous Form ability specifically says it works on Vampires who have been reduced to 0 HP or lower in combat. There are quite a few ways to destroy a Vampire without actually reducing it to 0 HP (this is the essence of what "save-or-die" means).

Disintegrate, however, is not a true save-or-die -- it merely does 2d6/CL worth of damage, i.e. merely reduces the creature's HP. So a Vampire hit by one and reduced to 0 HP still escapes through Gaseous Form.

I would rule this is *not* true, however, of a spell that simply says the creature is destroyed, like sunbeam or undeath to death.
Thomar_of_Uointer
07-17-07, 12:07 AM Disintegrate, however, is not a true save-or-die -- it merely does 2d6/CL worth of damage, i.e. merely reduces the creature's HP. So a Vampire hit by one and reduced to 0 HP still escapes through Gaseous Form.

Eech, my mistake. But it might as well be save-or-die.
ArcTan
07-17-07, 01:50 AM Eech, my mistake. But it might as well be save-or-die.

...Except for Vampires. (To say nothing of Trolls.)
cato
07-17-07, 04:46 AM ...Except for Vampires. (To say nothing of Trolls.)

Doesnt disintegrate specify that you turn into dust when reduced to 0 hp? Then which effect applies first? gaseous form or dust turning?
unundindur
07-17-07, 05:56 AM Speaking of vampires, any templates for Vampire Lords or some sort of ranking system like Lich's have?

O yes, Here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20021018a) it is. I like it, though I REALLY don't want ot meet that as a player :P

Here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=878775&highlight=vampire+lord) is also a thread regarding level adjustment.

Hope that was somewhat useful :)
Muglock
07-17-07, 06:28 AM Oh, thank you!
That is PERFECT!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
cato 07-14-07, 01:13 PM	Is a vampire killed by effects such as greater turning and/or disintegration?
Thomar_of_Uointer 07-14-07, 04:35 PM	Is a vampire killed by effects such as greater turning and/or disintegration? Greater turning can kill a vampire (if the cleric or paladin successfully makes the checks), but the vampire will just turn to gas and fly back to its coffin as normal. Disintegration can also kill a vampire. Although the effect requires a Fortitude save, it also works on objects (and thus undead according to the undead creature type's immunities). Again, the vampire just turns to gas and flies back to its coffin.
Muglock 07-14-07, 04:38 PM	Speaking of vampires, any templates for Vampire Lords or some sort of ranking system like Lich's have?
cato 07-16-07, 10:55 AM	Greater turning can kill a vampire (if the cleric or paladin successfully makes the checks), but the vampire will just turn to gas and fly back to its coffin as normal. Disintegration can also kill a vampire. Although the effect requires a Fortitude save, it also works on objects (and thus undead according to the undead creature type's immunities). Again, the vampire just turns to gas and flies back to its coffin. I think some previous thread on a subject similar to this mentioned that greater turning destroys a vampire without giving him a chance to transform in a gaseous cloud at 0 hp. I thought something similar might be true for disintegration. Also, does flesh to stone work an a vampire ( I recall seeing a use of stone to flesh turning walls into flesh)
Taelohn 07-16-07, 11:42 AM	A vampire automatically assumes gaseous form and flees if reduced to 0 hit points. Some attacks (greater turning, sunbeam, sunburst, two rounds of exposure to sunlight, three rounds of immersion in running water, a critical hit from a vorpal sword, decapitation after being staked) can destroy a vampire outright, rather than reducing its hit points, in which case it's gone for good.
ArcTan 07-16-07, 11:01 PM	The Gaseous Form ability specifically says it works on Vampires who have been reduced to 0 HP or lower in combat. There are quite a few ways to destroy a Vampire without actually reducing it to 0 HP (this is the essence of what "save-or-die" means). Disintegrate, however, is not a true save-or-die -- it merely does 2d6/CL worth of damage, i.e. merely reduces the creature's HP. So a Vampire hit by one and reduced to 0 HP still escapes through Gaseous Form. I would rule this is not true, however, of a spell that simply says the creature is destroyed, like sunbeam or undeath to death.
Thomar_of_Uointer 07-17-07, 12:07 AM	Disintegrate, however, is not a true save-or-die -- it merely does 2d6/CL worth of damage, i.e. merely reduces the creature's HP. So a Vampire hit by one and reduced to 0 HP still escapes through Gaseous Form. Eech, my mistake. But it might as well be save-or-die.
ArcTan 07-17-07, 01:50 AM	Eech, my mistake. But it might as well be save-or-die. ...Except for Vampires. (To say nothing of Trolls.)
cato 07-17-07, 04:46 AM	...Except for Vampires. (To say nothing of Trolls.) Doesnt disintegrate specify that you turn into dust when reduced to 0 hp? Then which effect applies first? gaseous form or dust turning?
unundindur 07-17-07, 05:56 AM	Speaking of vampires, any templates for Vampire Lords or some sort of ranking system like Lich's have? O yes, Here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20021018a) it is. I like it, though I REALLY don't want ot meet that as a player :P Here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=878775&highlight=vampire+lord) is also a thread regarding level adjustment. Hope that was somewhat useful :)
Muglock 07-17-07, 06:28 AM	Oh, thank you! That is PERFECT!