Variant Forest Gnome [Archive] - Wizards Community

Variant Forest Gnome [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sul_Zain_Aserbet
02-07-07, 01:05 PM This forest gnome is based off the old cartoon series The Adventures of David the Gnome and the book Gnomes, by Wil Huygen and Rien Poortvliet. ( the book is what the cartoon series is based off of.)

Same as forest gnome except where noted different:

-Ability scoure Adjustments: Forest gnomes gain +4 to Str and +4 to wisdom. Forest gnomes are very wise and usually stronger than men.

-Size: Diminutive. Forest gnomes are 15 centimeters (6 inches tall)

- +2 racial alchemy bonus is replaced by healing.

-Scent ability: Forest gnomes have a very keen sense of smell.

-Forest gnomes loose dancing lights, ghost sound, and prestidigitation 1/day.

-Forest gnomes do not treat hooked hammers as martial weapons.

-Forest gnomes loose thier racial attack bonus. This breed of gnome strives to understand and respect all races, even those like trolls.

-Favored Class: Healer.

-LA: Probably +2.

Edit: Took away the racial bonus altogether.
Thomar_of_Uointer
02-07-07, 03:25 PM It would make a killer monk if you equipped it with a reach weapon (and by "killer", I mean it will whittle away at your hp until you're dead while you keep trying to hit it). And poison, can't underestimate poison when you're that accurate. Just because of the huge AC and attack roll boost, I'd call it LA +2.
Evillain
02-07-07, 04:06 PM I would never allow it for a PC class. It is too abusable too many feats depend on smaller size than your enemy and with a bonus to str it's just ridiculous. Such abuse should not be alowed except with racial hit dice and a huge Level adjustment, like add 5 HD and +7 LA as well as some spell like abilities (and you'll get someting balanced. Inspire yourself of the nymph (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) or such fey creatures. you will find none at +0 LA with such ability mods. I know it would be nice to play. but it is in no way balanced.
JarionSilverblades
02-07-07, 04:20 PM I remember that cartoon, man it’s been years since that cartoon’s been on. I do recall a few things about the Gnomes. Here are a few ideas.
1) Gain an attack bonus against Trolls not goblinoids.
2) Forest Gnome paladins can chose a fox as their mount.
3) Spell-like abilities: 1/day Cure moderate wounds, Speak with animals (all).
Sul_Zain_Aserbet
02-07-07, 06:01 PM I would never allow it for a PC class. It is too abusable too many feats depend on smaller size than your enemy and with a bonus to str it's just ridiculous. Such abuse should not be alowed except with racial hit dice and a huge Level adjustment, like add 5 HD and +7 LA as well as some spell like abilities (and you'll get someting balanced. Inspire yourself of the nymph (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) or such fey creatures. you will find none at +0 LA with such ability mods. I know it would be nice to play. but it is in no way balanced.

lol, i see :) its a work in progress, but shaping up a bit. later ill write up a character using what ive posted and see how it fits with similarly leveled characters. Changing the racial bonus to just trolls is more thematic for this gnome variant, and tunes the power down a smigeon from what it was beforehand. Good suggestion Jarion!

I know the Str boost seems weird, but the forest gnome is actually seven times stronger than a man!
JarionSilverblades
03-05-07, 09:15 AM BUMP!!! :eek: :bump:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sul_Zain_Aserbet 02-07-07, 01:05 PM	This forest gnome is based off the old cartoon series The Adventures of David the Gnome and the book Gnomes, by Wil Huygen and Rien Poortvliet. ( the book is what the cartoon series is based off of.) Same as forest gnome except where noted different: -Ability scoure Adjustments: Forest gnomes gain +4 to Str and +4 to wisdom. Forest gnomes are very wise and usually stronger than men. -Size: Diminutive. Forest gnomes are 15 centimeters (6 inches tall) - +2 racial alchemy bonus is replaced by healing. -Scent ability: Forest gnomes have a very keen sense of smell. -Forest gnomes loose dancing lights, ghost sound, and prestidigitation 1/day. -Forest gnomes do not treat hooked hammers as martial weapons. -Forest gnomes loose thier racial attack bonus. This breed of gnome strives to understand and respect all races, even those like trolls. -Favored Class: Healer. -LA: Probably +2. Edit: Took away the racial bonus altogether.
Thomar_of_Uointer 02-07-07, 03:25 PM	It would make a killer monk if you equipped it with a reach weapon (and by "killer", I mean it will whittle away at your hp until you're dead while you keep trying to hit it). And poison, can't underestimate poison when you're that accurate. Just because of the huge AC and attack roll boost, I'd call it LA +2.
Evillain 02-07-07, 04:06 PM	I would never allow it for a PC class. It is too abusable too many feats depend on smaller size than your enemy and with a bonus to str it's just ridiculous. Such abuse should not be alowed except with racial hit dice and a huge Level adjustment, like add 5 HD and +7 LA as well as some spell like abilities (and you'll get someting balanced. Inspire yourself of the nymph (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) or such fey creatures. you will find none at +0 LA with such ability mods. I know it would be nice to play. but it is in no way balanced.
JarionSilverblades 02-07-07, 04:20 PM	I remember that cartoon, man it’s been years since that cartoon’s been on. I do recall a few things about the Gnomes. Here are a few ideas. 1) Gain an attack bonus against Trolls not goblinoids. 2) Forest Gnome paladins can chose a fox as their mount. 3) Spell-like abilities: 1/day Cure moderate wounds, Speak with animals (all).
Sul_Zain_Aserbet 02-07-07, 06:01 PM	I would never allow it for a PC class. It is too abusable too many feats depend on smaller size than your enemy and with a bonus to str it's just ridiculous. Such abuse should not be alowed except with racial hit dice and a huge Level adjustment, like add 5 HD and +7 LA as well as some spell like abilities (and you'll get someting balanced. Inspire yourself of the nymph (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) or such fey creatures. you will find none at +0 LA with such ability mods. I know it would be nice to play. but it is in no way balanced. lol, i see :) its a work in progress, but shaping up a bit. later ill write up a character using what ive posted and see how it fits with similarly leveled characters. Changing the racial bonus to just trolls is more thematic for this gnome variant, and tunes the power down a smigeon from what it was beforehand. Good suggestion Jarion! I know the Str boost seems weird, but the forest gnome is actually seven times stronger than a man!
JarionSilverblades 03-05-07, 09:15 AM	BUMP!!! :eek: :bump: