Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Red_Rabbit 06-01-07, 01:45 AM	Title pretty much says it I just need some opinions. Thx
Crimson_Concerto 06-01-07, 02:02 AM	Depends. Is Telekinesis like 1/day, 3/day, or like at will? Also, will it be a Spell-Like or Supernatural ability?
Red_Rabbit 06-01-07, 02:56 AM	At will spell like ability
Part-Human2 06-01-07, 11:53 AM	+3 LA because it's not even a veiled attempt at power shopping (getting a specific ability by making a race). If it slowly scalled up then perhaps +2 LA.
penchant 06-01-07, 12:07 PM	Telekinesis can take many forms. If you just want a TK human, then you can start out with Mage Hand at will at low hit dice, and move up to Unseen Servant at medium hit dice and then get the full Telekinesis at will at high hit dice. Make a few flavor additions and stick with the +2 LA.
Crimson_Concerto 06-01-07, 12:11 PM	I agree about the scaling slowly thing. Perhapse treat the spell level as 1/2 HD and the save as equal to 10+ 1/2 HD + CHA mod instead of using the actual spell level of 5 so that it's possible to save versus at earlier levels but not useless later or. Also, do you want the CL of this ability to be equal to HD or 1/2 HD? EDIT: Oh, and as a possible method of lowering the LA, perhapse consider having Telekinesis have a cool-down of 1D4 rounds? a.k.a. after using it, you have to wait at least 1D4 rounds before using it again. I got the idea from looking at the Ghost template...
Zaver 06-01-07, 12:21 PM	Yeah if you actually give a lvl 1 character telekinesis at will, you just up and made Sylar from Heroes and that needs a high LA.
periscope 06-01-07, 02:12 PM	there is a telekineticist class on the boards, check the peach orchard.
Crimson_Concerto 06-01-07, 02:29 PM	there is a telekineticist class on the boards, check the peach orchard. Multiple, in fact. The Psychic class in there gets it too.
Harliquinn 06-01-07, 02:38 PM	I'm guessing he wants to get into Master of the Unseen Hand.
Red_Rabbit 06-01-07, 02:38 PM	Githyanki might be more what I might go with than it's +1 LA and Telekinesis at will. It's a template out of Manual of the planes.
Crimson_Concerto 06-01-07, 02:46 PM	Githyanki might be more what I might go with than it's +1 LA and Telekinesis at will. It's a template out of Manual of the planes. What are you talking about? Githyanki don't have Telekinesis at will. The closest thing they have to that is Mage Hand 3/day. Also, Githyanki are a +2 LA race, not a +1 LA template...
Red_Rabbit 06-01-07, 02:48 PM	according to the manual of planes they do, and I wasn't even gonna respond to the sylar thing but I changed my mind. You can't use Telekinesis in that way in D&D that should be enough said.
Crimson_Concerto 06-01-07, 02:52 PM	according to the manual of planes they do, and I wasn't even gonna respond to the sylar thing but I changed my mind. You can't use Telekinesis in that way in D&D that should be enough said. Isn't manuel of the planes 3.0? Githyanki are in the MM 3.5 and they are in no way what you described. They're not a template (nor do I think they ever have been), they're not +1 LA, and they don't have Telekinesis at all. Are you sure you're looking at the right name? :confused:
penchant 06-01-07, 10:58 PM	In the manual of the planes Githyanki do have psionic telekinesis at will in addition to several other at will abilities. There is no level adjustment indicated however (3.0 after all) but are challenge rating 1, which might be what you might be thinking of. Challenge rating and Level Adjustment are two very different things. I think there is a reason that they had those abilities removed in 3.5 and would stick with that version rather than try to base your race idea on this older build. In the 3.5 monster manual version they get telekinesis 3 times per day at 9th level. Its almost like what I suggested before. I'm a genius.