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Joesph_kurr 03-06-07, 03:19 AM	Hello I was woundering what the best method of dealing with LA the player's guide to fearun has a "buy off" type method that I liked it's simple and all but the more I look at it more it seems to hurt players in the first LV. UA also has a buy off type of deal but it seems far more complicated then it needs to be. Any way what is your view on the matter?
bobothechimp 03-06-07, 04:51 AM	LA buyoff is a bad idea. LA is supposed to be detrimental. It is supposed to keep they players Class Level behind their ECL. Allowing LA to be bought off will put the character behind the others for a while, but because they are lower level they will gain more experience. Soon enough they will be the same level as the rest of the party, but still have the benifits of whatever it was that gave them the LA in the first place.
Templario 03-06-07, 06:58 AM	LA buyoff is a bad idea. LA is supposed to be detrimental. It is supposed to keep they players Class Level behind their ECL. Allowing LA to be bought off will put the character behind the others for a while, but because they are lower level they will gain more experience. Soon enough they will be the same level as the rest of the party, but still have the benifits of whatever it was that gave them the LA in the first place. Well, they'll lack something like 2 ou more levels until they catch up. LA buyoff is great if everyone in the party has LA, or if a important character (spellcasters, rogue) has LA too.
Dradjeel 03-06-07, 09:02 AM	The idea of buyoff is that at a certain point, some +LA-granting abilities lessen in usefulness. An aasimar's elemental protections cease being useful, or the air genasi's levitation ability overshadowed by equipment and class-related benefits.
AZNsupermarket 03-06-07, 09:13 AM	There are enough LA +0 creature out there to avoid LA completely.
Jaxgaret 03-06-07, 10:20 AM	LA buyoff is great if everyone in the party has LA This is an excellent use for LA buyoff. The only real use it would see in my games. To the OP: LA is a sticky subject, because of the reasons for why LAs aren't completely balanced to one another. IIRC WotC has stated that higher-ECL classes have been made to be underpowered against LA+0 races in general to give players an incentive to play the base PHB races. In other words, they have stacked the deck against Monsters-as-PCs so that campaigns don't often turn into a monster menagerie. Once you realize this, you can do what you want in your games when it comes to LA, RHD, and ECL. Fix them, or leave them be. It's entirely up to you.
Joesph_kurr 03-06-07, 04:19 PM	This is an excellent use for LA buyoff. The only real use it would see in my games. To the OP: LA is a sticky subject, because of the reasons for why LAs aren't completely balanced to one another. IIRC WotC has stated that higher-ECL classes have been made to be underpowered against LA+0 races in general to give players an incentive to play the base PHB races. In other words, they have stacked the deck against Monsters-as-PCs so that campaigns don't often turn into a monster menagerie. Once you realize this, you can do what you want in your games when it comes to LA, RHD, and ECL. Fix them, or leave them be. It's entirely up to you. I read this some where but didn't know if it was true it deffenitly made sense when you look at some LA races. To everyone thanks for the input I guess the best way to deal with LA is to talk to the DM.
Melpomene 03-06-07, 04:23 PM	Starting the game at a higher level is my preffered meathod, but I can only do that when I DM.