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Nghtpunisher
04-20-07, 02:06 PM has anyone seen a brownie? i am looking to play on but can never find em anywhere they were in 2E had the speed bonus and everything but now i cant find one has anyone made one or seen em ? if so please help me out ty
Thomar_of_Uointer
04-20-07, 02:13 PM Looking at the Consolidated lists, it appears that WotC hasn't published a book with brownies yet.

Mmm... Brownies... :drool:

Ahem. Anyways, I have put together generic and flexible Hit Die progressions that you could use to play nearly any type of monster.
http://www.kobolds-keep.net/Progressions.pdf
Nghtpunisher
04-20-07, 02:37 PM Looking at the Consolidated lists, it appears that WotC hasn't published a book with brownies yet.

Mmm... Brownies... :drool:

Ahem. Anyways, I have put together generic and flexible Hit Die progressions that you could use to play nearly any type of monster.
http://www.kobolds-keep.net/Progressions.pdf

ok thats pritty good but if i was to make a brownie from that they'd be like a horse or cat looking thing maybe even a SMALLLLLLLLLL satyre good concept but (if nothing shows that what i got to work with) if somone else has something else id like to see others too thank you verry much for your help :)

the problem with yours is its more like a class not a race
Thomar_of_Uointer
04-20-07, 02:51 PM ok thats pritty good but if i was to make a brownie from that they'd be like a horse or cat looking thing maybe even a SMALLLLLLLLLL satyre good concept but (if nothing shows that what i got to work with) if somone else has something else id like to see others too thank you verry much for your help :)

the problem with yours is its more like a class not a race

The progression lets you make the monster character at any power level you need, and with whatever level of whatever abilities you need. There are options for size increases on nearly all of the types, but in general the races are set at the smallest workable size possible. You looked at just the Fey progression, right?

Are you planning on making Brownie as a monster?
j3st3r
04-20-07, 03:11 PM There's actually a brownie presented in one of the wizards articles: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/al/20041006a.

Also Dragon Magazine #331 has a house brownie.
Nghtpunisher
04-20-07, 04:09 PM The Brownie

The creature resembles a very small elf, shorter than a halfling and very slim, with brown hair. It wears brightly colored garments and it carries a belt full of artisan's tools.

Brownies are benign and exceedingly nimble creatures that may be related very distantly to halflings. Peaceful and friendly, brownies live in pastoral regions, foraging and gleaning their food.

A brownie stands no taller than 2 feet and weighs about 6 pounds. Their garments are usually made of wool or linen and dyed bright colors and decorated with elaborate embroidery or trimmed with silver or gold studs and buttons.

Brownies speak Common, Halfling, and Sylvan, plus one other language (usually Elven or Gnome).

Combat
Brownies prefer not to engage in combat, and only do so in response to attacks or clear threats of violence. Angry brownies rarely meet their foes in hand-to-hand combat. Instead, they retreat to a safe distance. They rely on their Tumble skill or ability to hide while being observed to avoid attacks of opportunity. Once safely out of reach, brownies use their spell-like abilities to harass and drive away enemies.

Calm Animal (Su): As a free action, a brownie can make an animal calm and docile. The power is similar to a calm animals spell as a 7th-level caster, except that it works on a single animal within 30 feet. An animal that has been affected or has made a successful saving throw against this power cannot be affected again for one day. The save DC against this power is 15. The save DC is Charisma-based and includes a +3 racial adjustment.

Spell-Like Abilities: A brownie can use any of the following, each at will as a 7th-level caster: confusion (DC 15), dancing lights, daylight, dimension door, protection from evil, ventriloquism (DC 12).

Evasion (Ex): If a brownie is exposed to any effect that normally allows it to attempt a Reflex saving throw for half damage, the brownie takes no damage with a successful saving throw.

Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): In areas of dim light, tall grass, or heavy undergrowth, a brownie can make itself practically invisible. Under these conditions, a brownie can use its Hide skill even while being observed and without having anything to actually hide behind.

Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A brownie retains its Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or targeted by an unseen foe. However, the brownie still loses its Dexterity bonus to AC if paralyzed or otherwise immobile.

Wild Empathy (Ex): A brownie can improve the attitude of an animal as a 7th-level character.

Skills: Brownies have a knack for working with their hands, and they gain a +2 racial bonus on all Craft checks. Most brownies also carry masterwork artisan's tools, and they gain a +2 bonus on checks with the Craft skill for which the tools are made (included in the numbers given above). Brownies have keen senses and receive a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. Brownies use their Dexterity scores for Climb checks.

Brownie Society

Brownies live in rural areas, making their homes in small burrows, hollow trees, or abandoned buildings. They often live close to or on farms, since they are fascinated by farm life.

Brownies live by harvesting wild fruits and gleaning grain from farmers' fields. Brownies are basically vegetarians who live very comfortably on the gleanings of agricultural life. They make efficient use of leftovers that are too small for humans to notice. When brownies glean from fields, they usually do so after harvest, gathering grains and fruits, which might otherwise be wasted. When they can harvest a few morsels earlier, they often do so if they can without spoiling the harvest.

Being honest to the core, brownies always perform some service in exchange for what they take. For example, a brownie might milk a farmer's cows and take only a small portion for itself.

Some brownies go so far as to become house brownies. They observe the families in a given area, and if one meets their high moral standards, these brownies secretly enter the household. At night, while the residents are asleep, they perform a variety of helpful tasks: spinning, baking bread, repairing farm implements, keeping foxes out of the hen house, mending clothes, and performing other household tasks. If a thief creeps silently into the house, they make enough noise to awaken the residents. Watchdogs and domestic animals usually consider brownies friendly and almost never attack or even bark at them (a result, no doubt, of their ability to calm or influence animals).

All brownies ask in exchange for their labor is a little milk, some bread, and an occasional bit of fruit. Etiquette demands that no notice be taken of them. If the residents boast about the presence of a brownie, the brownie vanishes.

Brownies are not greedy, but they often have small hoards of treasure, which they have taken from evil monsters or received as gifts from humans. A brownie sometimes leaves his treasure in a location where a good person in need is bound to find it.

Brownies quickly note strangers that come to the area where they dwell. They keep careful watch on the newcomers until their motives are established. If the brownies decide that a stranger is harmless, he is left in peace. If not, the brownies unite and drive the intruder out.

Brownies know every nook and cranny of the areas where they live, and thus make excellent guides, if they can be persuaded to serve.

Brownies as Characters

Brownie characters possess the following racial traits.

-6 Strength, +10 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, +2 Charisma

Tiny size: A brownie has a +2 bonus to Armor class and attack rolls . A brownie uses smaller weapons than humans use, and his lifting and carrying limits are 1/2 of those of a Medium character.

A brownie's base land speed is 30 feet. +10 feet for every 5 Character Levels

Darkvision out to 30 feet.

Low-light vision.

Calm Animal: As a free action, a brownie can calm an animal. The power is similar to a calm animals spell, except that it works on a single animal within 30 feet. An animal that has been affected or has made a successful saving throw against this power cannot be affected again for one day. The caster level for this power is 7 + the brownie's character level. The save DC against this power is 14 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. This is a supernatural ability.

Spell-Like Abilities: A brownie can use the any of the following, each at will: confusion, dancing lights, daylight, dimension door, protection from evil, ventriloquism. Saving throws are 10 + spell level + the brownie's Charisma modifier. The brownie's caster level is 7 + the brownie's character level.

Evasion (Ex):If a brownie is exposed to any effect that normally allows it to attempt a Reflex saving throw for half damage, the brownie takes no damage with a successful saving throw. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the evasion class feature, the brownie gains improved evasion instead.

Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): In areas of dim light, tall grass, or heavy undergrowth a brownie can use the Hide skill even while being observed and without having anything to actually hide behind. This ability does not stack with the hide in plain sight class feature.

Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A brownie retains its Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or targeted by an unseen foe. However, the brownie still loses its Dexterity bonus to AC if paralyzed or otherwise immobile. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the uncanny dodge class feature, the brownie gains improved uncanny dodge instead.

Wild Empathy (Ex): A brownie can improve the attitude of an animal as a druid does. The brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. If the brownie gains levels in a class that has the wild empathy class feature, the brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the relevant class level + the brownie's Charisma modifier.

Skills: Brownies have a knack for working with their hands, and they gain a +2 racial bonus on all Craft checks. Most brownies also carry masterwork artisan's tools, and they gain a +2 bonus on checks with the Craft skill for which the tools are made (included in the numbers given above). Brownies have keen senses and receive a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. Brownies use their Dexterity scores for Climb checks.

+8 racial bonus on all Hide and Move Silenty checks.

Automatic Languages: Common, Halfling, and Sylvan.

Bonus Languages: Draconic, Elven, Giant, Goblin, and Gnome.

Favored Class: Rogue.

Level Adjustment +3.
Dead_Weasel
04-20-07, 06:13 PM -8 Str, +8 Dex, +2 Cha
Base land speed 30'
Favored Class: Rogue
LA: +5

All else the same.
As always, this is merely my opinion.
Nghtpunisher
04-20-07, 07:32 PM OK LA+5 will never be used in a game so i removed some of thier pluses from thier Stats and i also changed favored class to rogue.
Brownies are known for thier speed they have always been Fast creatures and id like to keep them fast; thats why i always played them in 2E. look it over now and see how u like it OK.
Thank you for your input.
Nghtpunisher
04-22-07, 02:53 AM :bump:
Thomar_of_Uointer
04-22-07, 02:55 AM :bump:

Your last post led us to believe that you had gotten an answer. See? You even said this:

Thank you for your input.

Do you have anything else you want feedback on or an answer to?
Nghtpunisher
04-22-07, 02:58 AM OH sry i was just trying to be polite. i was kinda wanting more peoples opinions on it so i can make it a race in my games.
Thomar_of_Uointer
04-22-07, 03:06 AM Brownies as Characters
Brownie characters possess the following racial traits.
-- -6 Strength, +10 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, +2 Charisma
--Tiny size: A brownie has a +2 bonus to Armor class and attack rolls . A brownie uses smaller weapons than humans use, and his lifting and carrying limits are 1/2 of those of a Medium character.
--A brownie's base land speed is 30 feet. +10 feet for every 5 Character Levels
--Darkvision out to 30 feet.
--Low-light vision.
--Calm Animal: As a free action, a brownie can calm an animal. The power is similar to a calm animals spell, except that it works on a single animal within 30 feet. An animal that has been affected or has made a successful saving throw against this power cannot be affected again for one day. The caster level for this power is 7 + the brownie's character level. The save DC against this power is 14 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. This is a supernatural ability.
--Spell-Like Abilities: A brownie can use the any of the following, each at will: confusion, dancing lights, daylight, dimension door, protection from evil, ventriloquism. Saving throws are 10 + spell level + the brownie's Charisma modifier. The brownie's caster level is 7 + the brownie's character level.
-- Evasion (Ex):If a brownie is exposed to any effect that normally allows it to attempt a Reflex saving throw for half damage, the brownie takes no damage with a successful saving throw. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the evasion class feature, the brownie gains improved evasion instead.
-- Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): In areas of dim light, tall grass, or heavy undergrowth a brownie can use the Hide skill even while being observed and without having anything to actually hide behind. This ability does not stack with the hide in plain sight class feature.
-- Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A brownie retains its Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or targeted by an unseen foe. However, the brownie still loses its Dexterity bonus to AC if paralyzed or otherwise immobile. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the uncanny dodge class feature, the brownie gains improved uncanny dodge instead.
-- Wild Empathy (Ex): A brownie can improve the attitude of an animal as a druid does. The brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. If the brownie gains levels in a class that has the wild empathy class feature, the brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the relevant class level + the brownie's Charisma modifier.
-- Skills: Brownies have a knack for working with their hands, and they gain a +2 racial bonus on all Craft checks. Most brownies also carry masterwork artisan's tools, and they gain a +2 bonus on checks with the Craft skill for which the tools are made (included in the numbers given above). Brownies have keen senses and receive a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. Brownies use their Dexterity scores for Climb checks.
-- +8 racial bonus on all Hide and Move Silenty checks.
-- Automatic Languages: Common, Halfling, and Sylvan.
-- Bonus Languages: Draconic, Elven, Giant, Goblin, and Gnome.
-- Favored Class: Rogue.
-- Level Adjustment +3.

That's a big list of spells... However, actually pretty balanced after you look everything over. Good job!

Oh, try using lists next time. Quote my post and see how I did this:

a
b
c
Nghtpunisher
04-22-07, 03:13 AM a. List Check
b. How do i do the hide + show boxes?
c. and how do i quote/like to my spacific single post ? but make it say brownie instead of the link name?
Thomar_of_Uointer
04-22-07, 03:48 AM a. List Check
b. How do i do the hide + show boxes?
c. and how do i quote/like to my spacific single post ? but make it say brownie instead of the link name?

This is a spoiler block.
This is a named spoiler block.

There's a number at the top-right corner of every post. Click on that for the link. You can name urls with url tags.

This is a shameless plug! (http://kobolds-keep.net/)

You can find the rest here:
http://boards1.wizards.com/misc.php?do=bbcode
AndrewD2
04-22-07, 04:05 AM Necromancer games has a Brownie in "The Tome of Horrors Revised". Nice little book.
Nghtpunisher
04-22-07, 09:25 AM Nice
Shadowfax7
04-22-07, 06:21 PM Necromancer games has a Brownie in "The Tome of Horrors Revised". Nice little book.

Is this the original 3.0 version, or did they revise it to 3.5 ? and if so, when ??

I would really be interested in a 3.5 revised version.
sigma999
04-22-07, 06:25 PM Sidhe or a better version of the 3.0 faun, nothing less.
OK maybe a male dryad unbound to trees, but no nymph nuh uh.
Boggans are cool too but some writer sorta ruined the Redcaps; asexual reproduction?!?!? WHAT!
SokenzanMarauder
04-22-07, 06:39 PM Is this the original 3.0 version, or did they revise it to 3.5 ? and if so, when ??

I would really be interested in a 3.5 revised version.
The 3.5 revision is sadly only available in .pdf format.

-Gene
Kojiro James
04-23-07, 03:44 AM Mmmm... brownies.

http://sendthemcookies.com/s/images/Brownie_600w.jpg
Shadowfax7
04-23-07, 12:35 PM The 3.5 revision is sadly only available in .pdf format.Thanx.

Got a link ?
Nghtpunisher
04-23-07, 02:10 PM i looked it up its the exact same thing i used to make this race freom so its not really any difference
AndrewD2
04-25-07, 12:05 AM Is this the original 3.0 version, or did they revise it to 3.5 ? and if so, when ??

I would really be interested in a 3.5 revised version.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3019

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Nghtpunisher 04-20-07, 02:06 PM	has anyone seen a brownie? i am looking to play on but can never find em anywhere they were in 2E had the speed bonus and everything but now i cant find one has anyone made one or seen em ? if so please help me out ty
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-20-07, 02:13 PM	Looking at the Consolidated lists, it appears that WotC hasn't published a book with brownies yet. Mmm... Brownies... :drool: Ahem. Anyways, I have put together generic and flexible Hit Die progressions that you could use to play nearly any type of monster. http://www.kobolds-keep.net/Progressions.pdf
Nghtpunisher 04-20-07, 02:37 PM	Looking at the Consolidated lists, it appears that WotC hasn't published a book with brownies yet. Mmm... Brownies... :drool: Ahem. Anyways, I have put together generic and flexible Hit Die progressions that you could use to play nearly any type of monster. http://www.kobolds-keep.net/Progressions.pdf ok thats pritty good but if i was to make a brownie from that they'd be like a horse or cat looking thing maybe even a SMALLLLLLLLLL satyre good concept but (if nothing shows that what i got to work with) if somone else has something else id like to see others too thank you verry much for your help :) the problem with yours is its more like a class not a race
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-20-07, 02:51 PM	ok thats pritty good but if i was to make a brownie from that they'd be like a horse or cat looking thing maybe even a SMALLLLLLLLLL satyre good concept but (if nothing shows that what i got to work with) if somone else has something else id like to see others too thank you verry much for your help :) the problem with yours is its more like a class not a race The progression lets you make the monster character at any power level you need, and with whatever level of whatever abilities you need. There are options for size increases on nearly all of the types, but in general the races are set at the smallest workable size possible. You looked at just the Fey progression, right? Are you planning on making Brownie as a monster?
j3st3r 04-20-07, 03:11 PM	There's actually a brownie presented in one of the wizards articles: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/al/20041006a. Also Dragon Magazine #331 has a house brownie.
Nghtpunisher 04-20-07, 04:09 PM	The Brownie The creature resembles a very small elf, shorter than a halfling and very slim, with brown hair. It wears brightly colored garments and it carries a belt full of artisan's tools. Brownies are benign and exceedingly nimble creatures that may be related very distantly to halflings. Peaceful and friendly, brownies live in pastoral regions, foraging and gleaning their food. A brownie stands no taller than 2 feet and weighs about 6 pounds. Their garments are usually made of wool or linen and dyed bright colors and decorated with elaborate embroidery or trimmed with silver or gold studs and buttons. Brownies speak Common, Halfling, and Sylvan, plus one other language (usually Elven or Gnome). Combat Brownies prefer not to engage in combat, and only do so in response to attacks or clear threats of violence. Angry brownies rarely meet their foes in hand-to-hand combat. Instead, they retreat to a safe distance. They rely on their Tumble skill or ability to hide while being observed to avoid attacks of opportunity. Once safely out of reach, brownies use their spell-like abilities to harass and drive away enemies. Calm Animal (Su): As a free action, a brownie can make an animal calm and docile. The power is similar to a calm animals spell as a 7th-level caster, except that it works on a single animal within 30 feet. An animal that has been affected or has made a successful saving throw against this power cannot be affected again for one day. The save DC against this power is 15. The save DC is Charisma-based and includes a +3 racial adjustment. Spell-Like Abilities: A brownie can use any of the following, each at will as a 7th-level caster: confusion (DC 15), dancing lights, daylight, dimension door, protection from evil, ventriloquism (DC 12). Evasion (Ex): If a brownie is exposed to any effect that normally allows it to attempt a Reflex saving throw for half damage, the brownie takes no damage with a successful saving throw. Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): In areas of dim light, tall grass, or heavy undergrowth, a brownie can make itself practically invisible. Under these conditions, a brownie can use its Hide skill even while being observed and without having anything to actually hide behind. Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A brownie retains its Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or targeted by an unseen foe. However, the brownie still loses its Dexterity bonus to AC if paralyzed or otherwise immobile. Wild Empathy (Ex): A brownie can improve the attitude of an animal as a 7th-level character. Skills: Brownies have a knack for working with their hands, and they gain a +2 racial bonus on all Craft checks. Most brownies also carry masterwork artisan's tools, and they gain a +2 bonus on checks with the Craft skill for which the tools are made (included in the numbers given above). Brownies have keen senses and receive a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. Brownies use their Dexterity scores for Climb checks. Brownie Society Brownies live in rural areas, making their homes in small burrows, hollow trees, or abandoned buildings. They often live close to or on farms, since they are fascinated by farm life. Brownies live by harvesting wild fruits and gleaning grain from farmers' fields. Brownies are basically vegetarians who live very comfortably on the gleanings of agricultural life. They make efficient use of leftovers that are too small for humans to notice. When brownies glean from fields, they usually do so after harvest, gathering grains and fruits, which might otherwise be wasted. When they can harvest a few morsels earlier, they often do so if they can without spoiling the harvest. Being honest to the core, brownies always perform some service in exchange for what they take. For example, a brownie might milk a farmer's cows and take only a small portion for itself. Some brownies go so far as to become house brownies. They observe the families in a given area, and if one meets their high moral standards, these brownies secretly enter the household. At night, while the residents are asleep, they perform a variety of helpful tasks: spinning, baking bread, repairing farm implements, keeping foxes out of the hen house, mending clothes, and performing other household tasks. If a thief creeps silently into the house, they make enough noise to awaken the residents. Watchdogs and domestic animals usually consider brownies friendly and almost never attack or even bark at them (a result, no doubt, of their ability to calm or influence animals). All brownies ask in exchange for their labor is a little milk, some bread, and an occasional bit of fruit. Etiquette demands that no notice be taken of them. If the residents boast about the presence of a brownie, the brownie vanishes. Brownies are not greedy, but they often have small hoards of treasure, which they have taken from evil monsters or received as gifts from humans. A brownie sometimes leaves his treasure in a location where a good person in need is bound to find it. Brownies quickly note strangers that come to the area where they dwell. They keep careful watch on the newcomers until their motives are established. If the brownies decide that a stranger is harmless, he is left in peace. If not, the brownies unite and drive the intruder out. Brownies know every nook and cranny of the areas where they live, and thus make excellent guides, if they can be persuaded to serve. Brownies as Characters Brownie characters possess the following racial traits. -6 Strength, +10 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, +2 Charisma Tiny size: A brownie has a +2 bonus to Armor class and attack rolls . A brownie uses smaller weapons than humans use, and his lifting and carrying limits are 1/2 of those of a Medium character. A brownie's base land speed is 30 feet. +10 feet for every 5 Character Levels Darkvision out to 30 feet. Low-light vision. Calm Animal: As a free action, a brownie can calm an animal. The power is similar to a calm animals spell, except that it works on a single animal within 30 feet. An animal that has been affected or has made a successful saving throw against this power cannot be affected again for one day. The caster level for this power is 7 + the brownie's character level. The save DC against this power is 14 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. This is a supernatural ability. Spell-Like Abilities: A brownie can use the any of the following, each at will: confusion, dancing lights, daylight, dimension door, protection from evil, ventriloquism. Saving throws are 10 + spell level + the brownie's Charisma modifier. The brownie's caster level is 7 + the brownie's character level. Evasion (Ex):If a brownie is exposed to any effect that normally allows it to attempt a Reflex saving throw for half damage, the brownie takes no damage with a successful saving throw. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the evasion class feature, the brownie gains improved evasion instead. Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): In areas of dim light, tall grass, or heavy undergrowth a brownie can use the Hide skill even while being observed and without having anything to actually hide behind. This ability does not stack with the hide in plain sight class feature. Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A brownie retains its Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or targeted by an unseen foe. However, the brownie still loses its Dexterity bonus to AC if paralyzed or otherwise immobile. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the uncanny dodge class feature, the brownie gains improved uncanny dodge instead. Wild Empathy (Ex): A brownie can improve the attitude of an animal as a druid does. The brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. If the brownie gains levels in a class that has the wild empathy class feature, the brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the relevant class level + the brownie's Charisma modifier. Skills: Brownies have a knack for working with their hands, and they gain a +2 racial bonus on all Craft checks. Most brownies also carry masterwork artisan's tools, and they gain a +2 bonus on checks with the Craft skill for which the tools are made (included in the numbers given above). Brownies have keen senses and receive a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. Brownies use their Dexterity scores for Climb checks. +8 racial bonus on all Hide and Move Silenty checks. Automatic Languages: Common, Halfling, and Sylvan. Bonus Languages: Draconic, Elven, Giant, Goblin, and Gnome. Favored Class: Rogue. Level Adjustment +3.
Dead_Weasel 04-20-07, 06:13 PM	-8 Str, +8 Dex, +2 Cha Base land speed 30' Favored Class: Rogue LA: +5 All else the same. As always, this is merely my opinion.
Nghtpunisher 04-20-07, 07:32 PM	OK LA+5 will never be used in a game so i removed some of thier pluses from thier Stats and i also changed favored class to rogue. Brownies are known for thier speed they have always been Fast creatures and id like to keep them fast; thats why i always played them in 2E. look it over now and see how u like it OK. Thank you for your input.
Nghtpunisher 04-22-07, 02:53 AM	:bump:
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-22-07, 02:55 AM	:bump: Your last post led us to believe that you had gotten an answer. See? You even said this: Thank you for your input. Do you have anything else you want feedback on or an answer to?
Nghtpunisher 04-22-07, 02:58 AM	OH sry i was just trying to be polite. i was kinda wanting more peoples opinions on it so i can make it a race in my games.
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-22-07, 03:06 AM	Brownies as Characters Brownie characters possess the following racial traits. -- -6 Strength, +10 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, +2 Charisma --Tiny size: A brownie has a +2 bonus to Armor class and attack rolls . A brownie uses smaller weapons than humans use, and his lifting and carrying limits are 1/2 of those of a Medium character. --A brownie's base land speed is 30 feet. +10 feet for every 5 Character Levels --Darkvision out to 30 feet. --Low-light vision. --Calm Animal: As a free action, a brownie can calm an animal. The power is similar to a calm animals spell, except that it works on a single animal within 30 feet. An animal that has been affected or has made a successful saving throw against this power cannot be affected again for one day. The caster level for this power is 7 + the brownie's character level. The save DC against this power is 14 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. This is a supernatural ability. --Spell-Like Abilities: A brownie can use the any of the following, each at will: confusion, dancing lights, daylight, dimension door, protection from evil, ventriloquism. Saving throws are 10 + spell level + the brownie's Charisma modifier. The brownie's caster level is 7 + the brownie's character level. -- Evasion (Ex):If a brownie is exposed to any effect that normally allows it to attempt a Reflex saving throw for half damage, the brownie takes no damage with a successful saving throw. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the evasion class feature, the brownie gains improved evasion instead. -- Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): In areas of dim light, tall grass, or heavy undergrowth a brownie can use the Hide skill even while being observed and without having anything to actually hide behind. This ability does not stack with the hide in plain sight class feature. -- Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A brownie retains its Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or targeted by an unseen foe. However, the brownie still loses its Dexterity bonus to AC if paralyzed or otherwise immobile. If the brownie gains a class level that gives it the uncanny dodge class feature, the brownie gains improved uncanny dodge instead. -- Wild Empathy (Ex): A brownie can improve the attitude of an animal as a druid does. The brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the brownie's Charisma modifier. If the brownie gains levels in a class that has the wild empathy class feature, the brownie's bonus on wild empathy checks is 7 + the relevant class level + the brownie's Charisma modifier. -- Skills: Brownies have a knack for working with their hands, and they gain a +2 racial bonus on all Craft checks. Most brownies also carry masterwork artisan's tools, and they gain a +2 bonus on checks with the Craft skill for which the tools are made (included in the numbers given above). Brownies have keen senses and receive a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. Brownies use their Dexterity scores for Climb checks. -- +8 racial bonus on all Hide and Move Silenty checks. -- Automatic Languages: Common, Halfling, and Sylvan. -- Bonus Languages: Draconic, Elven, Giant, Goblin, and Gnome. -- Favored Class: Rogue. -- Level Adjustment +3. That's a big list of spells... However, actually pretty balanced after you look everything over. Good job! Oh, try using lists next time. Quote my post and see how I did this: a b c
Nghtpunisher 04-22-07, 03:13 AM	a. List Check b. How do i do the hide + show boxes? c. and how do i quote/like to my spacific single post ? but make it say brownie instead of the link name?
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-22-07, 03:48 AM	a. List Check b. How do i do the hide + show boxes? c. and how do i quote/like to my spacific single post ? but make it say brownie instead of the link name? This is a spoiler block. This is a named spoiler block. There's a number at the top-right corner of every post. Click on that for the link. You can name urls with url tags. This is a shameless plug! (http://kobolds-keep.net/) You can find the rest here: http://boards1.wizards.com/misc.php?do=bbcode
AndrewD2 04-22-07, 04:05 AM	Necromancer games has a Brownie in "The Tome of Horrors Revised". Nice little book.
Nghtpunisher 04-22-07, 09:25 AM	Nice
Shadowfax7 04-22-07, 06:21 PM	Necromancer games has a Brownie in "The Tome of Horrors Revised". Nice little book. Is this the original 3.0 version, or did they revise it to 3.5 ? and if so, when ?? I would really be interested in a 3.5 revised version.
sigma999 04-22-07, 06:25 PM	Sidhe or a better version of the 3.0 faun, nothing less. OK maybe a male dryad unbound to trees, but no nymph nuh uh. Boggans are cool too but some writer sorta ruined the Redcaps; asexual reproduction?!?!? WHAT!
SokenzanMarauder 04-22-07, 06:39 PM	Is this the original 3.0 version, or did they revise it to 3.5 ? and if so, when ?? I would really be interested in a 3.5 revised version. The 3.5 revision is sadly only available in .pdf format. -Gene
Kojiro James 04-23-07, 03:44 AM	Mmmm... brownies. http://sendthemcookies.com/s/images/Brownie_600w.jpg
Shadowfax7 04-23-07, 12:35 PM	The 3.5 revision is sadly only available in .pdf format.Thanx. Got a link ?
Nghtpunisher 04-23-07, 02:10 PM	i looked it up its the exact same thing i used to make this race freom so its not really any difference
AndrewD2 04-25-07, 12:05 AM	Is this the original 3.0 version, or did they revise it to 3.5 ? and if so, when ?? I would really be interested in a 3.5 revised version. http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3019