1 level spellcraft check 6th level spell? [Archive] - Wizards Community

1 level spellcraft check 6th level spell? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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hoodGamer
01-17-08, 04:31 AM the question is can a 1 level caster make spellcraft check the find out the spells being cast by a much higher level caster? and to what level all 9?
kuonji
01-17-08, 04:34 AM From the SRD on Spellcraft:
15 + spell level: Identify a spell being cast. (You must see or hear the spell’s verbal or somatic components.) No action required. No retry.

If they can roll high enough to make the spellcraft check then they can identify the spell being cast. It will be difficult, but not impossible, for a lower level caster to identify a higher level spell.
Talisman
01-18-08, 02:39 PM Assuming a 1st-level wizard with an 18 Int and 4 ranks in Spellcraft...total Spellcraft check 1d20+8.

They could, theoretically, identify a 9th-level spell being cast (DC 28; requires a natural 20).

The DC for a 6th-level spell is 21 (15 + 6), requiring a roll of 13 from our maxed-out 1st-level wizzie.

This becomes easier if the caster has wasted (and I do mean wasted) feats on Skill Focus: Spellcraft and suchlike.
edwardlynxx
01-18-08, 03:29 PM Assuming a 1st-level wizard with an 18 Int and 4 ranks in Spellcraft...total Spellcraft check 1d20+8.

They could, theoretically, identify a 9th-level spell being cast (DC 28; requires a natural 20).

The DC for a 6th-level spell is 21 (15 + 6), requiring a roll of 13 from our maxed-out 1st-level wizzie.

This becomes easier if the caster has wasted (and I do mean wasted) feats on Skill Focus: Spellcraft and suchlike.

Ummm... Did you check your match there? 9th level spell would be DC: 15 + 9 = 24, not 28. Which would require a roll of 16, not 20. You got the sixth level spell right, which makes me wonder why you thought that the DC for a spell 3 levels higher would be 7 points higher. :thinks:
Talisman
01-18-08, 09:03 PM :doh:
I...have no idea why I did that.

Me do good maths, huh?
NerdNumber1
01-18-08, 09:48 PM A first level barbarian that took a cross-class rank or two in spellcraft could identify the spell if he got lucky.

Mage: :thinks: "I don't recognize the spell, it must be an obscure, high level spell."

Barbarian: "It a disintagrate. Thog smash."

Mage: ....:surrender

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
hoodGamer 01-17-08, 04:31 AM	the question is can a 1 level caster make spellcraft check the find out the spells being cast by a much higher level caster? and to what level all 9?
kuonji 01-17-08, 04:34 AM	From the SRD on Spellcraft: 15 + spell level: Identify a spell being cast. (You must see or hear the spell’s verbal or somatic components.) No action required. No retry. If they can roll high enough to make the spellcraft check then they can identify the spell being cast. It will be difficult, but not impossible, for a lower level caster to identify a higher level spell.
Talisman 01-18-08, 02:39 PM	Assuming a 1st-level wizard with an 18 Int and 4 ranks in Spellcraft...total Spellcraft check 1d20+8. They could, theoretically, identify a 9th-level spell being cast (DC 28; requires a natural 20). The DC for a 6th-level spell is 21 (15 + 6), requiring a roll of 13 from our maxed-out 1st-level wizzie. This becomes easier if the caster has wasted (and I do mean wasted) feats on Skill Focus: Spellcraft and suchlike.
edwardlynxx 01-18-08, 03:29 PM	Assuming a 1st-level wizard with an 18 Int and 4 ranks in Spellcraft...total Spellcraft check 1d20+8. They could, theoretically, identify a 9th-level spell being cast (DC 28; requires a natural 20). The DC for a 6th-level spell is 21 (15 + 6), requiring a roll of 13 from our maxed-out 1st-level wizzie. This becomes easier if the caster has wasted (and I do mean wasted) feats on Skill Focus: Spellcraft and suchlike. Ummm... Did you check your match there? 9th level spell would be DC: 15 + 9 = 24, not 28. Which would require a roll of 16, not 20. You got the sixth level spell right, which makes me wonder why you thought that the DC for a spell 3 levels higher would be 7 points higher. :thinks:
Talisman 01-18-08, 09:03 PM	:doh: I...have no idea why I did that. Me do good maths, huh?
NerdNumber1 01-18-08, 09:48 PM	A first level barbarian that took a cross-class rank or two in spellcraft could identify the spell if he got lucky. Mage: :thinks: "I don't recognize the spell, it must be an obscure, high level spell." Barbarian: "It a disintagrate. Thog smash." Mage: ....:surrender