2 Handed weapon feat [Archive] - Wizards Community

2 Handed weapon feat [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Derges
05-15-07, 03:17 PM Is there a feat anywhere that allows a character to wield a two handed weapon such as a greataxe/sword in one hand? If it does what book might it be found in? Thanks
RequiemOfReason
05-15-07, 03:21 PM There's monkey grip. But you don't want it.
Trust me. You really don't want it.
Derges
05-15-07, 03:29 PM Isn't monkey-grip for weapons one size category bigger than you or is it the same thing these days?
RequiemOfReason
05-15-07, 03:44 PM I believe there's a PrC somewhere which allows you to treat a weapon as if it was one size category smaller, but I cannot recall the source. There is something similar in d20 Future- the Dreadnought.
And you're right regarding monkey grip- it's not technically the same thing. Still I stand by my previous statement- you really don't want it.
Derges
05-15-07, 03:47 PM Yeah I know I don't want monky grip :) . I was just hoping there was a feat to wield 2-handed weapons in one hand somewhere..
RobbyPants
05-15-07, 03:51 PM Yeah I know I don't want monky grip :) . I was just hoping there was a feat to wield 2-handed weapons in one hand somewhere..
Well, the closest you can pull off is using Monkey Grip to use a large one-handed weapon. It will do the same damage as a medium two-hander, but you will only have it in one hand. The trick is that you have -2 to hit ;)
Derges
05-15-07, 03:54 PM Shame, thanks anyway.
RequiemOfReason
05-15-07, 03:55 PM 1d8 averages 4.5 Damage. 2d6 averages 7 damage.
A feat which would allow you to wield a two handed weapon in one hand would probably levy a -2 penalty to attack rolls.
So would Power attacking for two points.

One possible solution: Just wield a one handed weapon, power attack with it a lot, and use flavour to explain it all.

Alternatively, make up a feat. But be sure to check it with your DM.
RobbyPants
05-15-07, 04:02 PM 1d8 averages 4.5 Damage. 2d6 averages 7 damage.
A feat which would allow you to wield a two handed weapon in one hand would probably levy a -2 penalty to attack rolls.
So would Power attacking for two points.

One possible solution: Just wield a one handed weapon, power attack with it a lot, and use flavour to explain it all.

Alternatively, make up a feat. But be sure to check it with your DM.
The problem is that power attacking with a one-handed weapon only gives you a 1-to-1 return, not the 2-to-1 of a two-hander. So power attacking with a longsword for -2 only ups the average damage from 4.5 to 6.5.

Granted, I do agree that for two-handed weapons power attack is more optimal (at least until the creature becomes huge or larger), but we're talking one-handed here.

Again, there's no need to make up a feat. One already exists.
Soceus
05-15-07, 05:40 PM Well, the closest you can pull off is using Monkey Grip to use a large one-handed weapon. It will do the same damage as a medium two-hander, but you will only have it in one hand. The trick is that you have -2 to hit ;)

Technically if you use a weapon 1 size catagory higher than yourself (let's say a halfling is using a human's short sword), you take a -4 to your attack roll because this weapon isn't sized for you, and you get the normal damage of the listed weapon (so 1d6 for a medium short sword). So technically if you use monkey grip wouldn't you have a -4, or even a -6 for using a weapon one size catagory higher than yourself, or does it just lower it to a -2?
RobbyPants
05-16-07, 09:40 AM Technically if you use a weapon 1 size catagory higher than yourself (let's say a halfling is using a human's short sword), you take a -4 to your attack roll because this weapon isn't sized for you, and you get the normal damage of the listed weapon (so 1d6 for a medium short sword). So technically if you use monkey grip wouldn't you have a -4, or even a -6 for using a weapon one size catagory higher than yourself, or does it just lower it to a -2?
No. It's just the -2.

The whole point of Monkey Grip is that you can use a weapon of a particular category (light, one-haned, or two-handed) of one size larger than yourself, with a -2 penalty. In the "normal" section of the feat, it mentions how normally, you could use a weapon, but the effort you need increases (light becomes one-handed, one-handed becomes two-handed, two-handed is not useable) in addition to a -4 penalty. The benifit of the feat superceeds the normal rules in this case.

So instead of a medium longsword (one-handed, 1d8), or a medium greatsword (two-handed, 2d6), you Monkey Grip a large longsword (one-handed, 2d6, -2 to hit).

Normally, I'm not a big fan of the feat. I was just pointing out to the OP that this is the closest approximation that I know of to use a two-handed weapon in one hand.
Garonak
05-16-07, 10:01 AM Check out this (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=844650) thread for more info on two-handers.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Derges 05-15-07, 03:17 PM	Is there a feat anywhere that allows a character to wield a two handed weapon such as a greataxe/sword in one hand? If it does what book might it be found in? Thanks
RequiemOfReason 05-15-07, 03:21 PM	There's monkey grip. But you don't want it. Trust me. You really don't want it.
Derges 05-15-07, 03:29 PM	Isn't monkey-grip for weapons one size category bigger than you or is it the same thing these days?
RequiemOfReason 05-15-07, 03:44 PM	I believe there's a PrC somewhere which allows you to treat a weapon as if it was one size category smaller, but I cannot recall the source. There is something similar in d20 Future- the Dreadnought. And you're right regarding monkey grip- it's not technically the same thing. Still I stand by my previous statement- you really don't want it.
Derges 05-15-07, 03:47 PM	Yeah I know I don't want monky grip :) . I was just hoping there was a feat to wield 2-handed weapons in one hand somewhere..
RobbyPants 05-15-07, 03:51 PM	Yeah I know I don't want monky grip :) . I was just hoping there was a feat to wield 2-handed weapons in one hand somewhere.. Well, the closest you can pull off is using Monkey Grip to use a large one-handed weapon. It will do the same damage as a medium two-hander, but you will only have it in one hand. The trick is that you have -2 to hit ;)
Derges 05-15-07, 03:54 PM	Shame, thanks anyway.
RequiemOfReason 05-15-07, 03:55 PM	1d8 averages 4.5 Damage. 2d6 averages 7 damage. A feat which would allow you to wield a two handed weapon in one hand would probably levy a -2 penalty to attack rolls. So would Power attacking for two points. One possible solution: Just wield a one handed weapon, power attack with it a lot, and use flavour to explain it all. Alternatively, make up a feat. But be sure to check it with your DM.
RobbyPants 05-15-07, 04:02 PM	1d8 averages 4.5 Damage. 2d6 averages 7 damage. A feat which would allow you to wield a two handed weapon in one hand would probably levy a -2 penalty to attack rolls. So would Power attacking for two points. One possible solution: Just wield a one handed weapon, power attack with it a lot, and use flavour to explain it all. Alternatively, make up a feat. But be sure to check it with your DM. The problem is that power attacking with a one-handed weapon only gives you a 1-to-1 return, not the 2-to-1 of a two-hander. So power attacking with a longsword for -2 only ups the average damage from 4.5 to 6.5. Granted, I do agree that for two-handed weapons power attack is more optimal (at least until the creature becomes huge or larger), but we're talking one-handed here. Again, there's no need to make up a feat. One already exists.
Soceus 05-15-07, 05:40 PM	Well, the closest you can pull off is using Monkey Grip to use a large one-handed weapon. It will do the same damage as a medium two-hander, but you will only have it in one hand. The trick is that you have -2 to hit ;) Technically if you use a weapon 1 size catagory higher than yourself (let's say a halfling is using a human's short sword), you take a -4 to your attack roll because this weapon isn't sized for you, and you get the normal damage of the listed weapon (so 1d6 for a medium short sword). So technically if you use monkey grip wouldn't you have a -4, or even a -6 for using a weapon one size catagory higher than yourself, or does it just lower it to a -2?
RobbyPants 05-16-07, 09:40 AM	Technically if you use a weapon 1 size catagory higher than yourself (let's say a halfling is using a human's short sword), you take a -4 to your attack roll because this weapon isn't sized for you, and you get the normal damage of the listed weapon (so 1d6 for a medium short sword). So technically if you use monkey grip wouldn't you have a -4, or even a -6 for using a weapon one size catagory higher than yourself, or does it just lower it to a -2? No. It's just the -2. The whole point of Monkey Grip is that you can use a weapon of a particular category (light, one-haned, or two-handed) of one size larger than yourself, with a -2 penalty. In the "normal" section of the feat, it mentions how normally, you could use a weapon, but the effort you need increases (light becomes one-handed, one-handed becomes two-handed, two-handed is not useable) in addition to a -4 penalty. The benifit of the feat superceeds the normal rules in this case. So instead of a medium longsword (one-handed, 1d8), or a medium greatsword (two-handed, 2d6), you Monkey Grip a large longsword (one-handed, 2d6, -2 to hit). Normally, I'm not a big fan of the feat. I was just pointing out to the OP that this is the closest approximation that I know of to use a two-handed weapon in one hand.
Garonak 05-16-07, 10:01 AM	Check out this (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=844650) thread for more info on two-handers.