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pukunui 07-12-07, 09:06 PM	Hi all, I've just been reading through the Draconomicon and I'm confused by the feat Adroit Flyby Attack. How exactly does it improve on the Flyby Attack feat? The only difference I can really see is that the Flyby Attack feat description is vague while the Adroit Flyby Attack description is very specific. All the former really says is that you can make a standard action during a move action, while the latter says that you can move, attack, then move again, so long as the total movement isn't more than your fly speed. Isn't that more or less saying the same thing? The latter also specifically mentions not provoking AoO while the former says nothing. Does this mean that Flyby Attack does provoke AoO? Can someone please explain these feats to me? Thanks, Jonny
Colmarr 07-12-07, 10:59 PM	Flyby attack allows an attacker to make an attack in the middle of their move action. Just like all movement, if you leave a threatened square you provoke attacks of opportunity. If you also have Adroit Flyby Attack, your flight movement does not provoke AoO from the creature you attack during the action (you still take AoOs from others you pass).
pukunui 07-13-07, 03:25 AM	Flyby attack allows an attacker to make an attack in the middle of their move action. Just like all movement, if you leave a threatened square you provoke attacks of opportunity. If you also have Adroit Flyby Attack, your flight movement does not provoke AoO from the creature you attack during the action (you still take AoOs from others you pass). OK thanks. So the AoO thing is the only difference?
DM Zoc 07-13-07, 04:21 AM	OK thanks. So the AoO thing is the only difference? One lets you perform any standard action, but draws Attacks of Opportunity; the other only lets you attack, but lets you ignore the AoO. It's an important difference, and you might prefer one to the other if you are mainly a spellcaster or purely a melee fighter.
pukunui 07-13-07, 08:27 AM	One lets you perform any standard action, but draws Attacks of Opportunity; the other only lets you attack, but lets you ignore the AoO. It's an important difference, and you might prefer one to the other if you are mainly a spellcaster or purely a melee fighter. OK yes, I can see the distinction there. Ignoring the names of the feats (and I am aware that many names/titles in 3.5 D&D can be misleading), Flyby Attack lets you take a standard action (which could be drinking a potion, not just attacking somebody) while taking a move action, although the standard action still provokes an AoO ... while Adroit Flyby Attack specifically lets you attack (one kind of standard action) while moving and it doesn't provoke AoO. Would that be a good way of summing it up?
tarkin 07-13-07, 10:42 AM	Yes. Most people think that all the move/attack/move feats protect from AoO's, but that is just not true.
pukunui 07-13-07, 05:33 PM	Yes. Most people think that all the move/attack/move feats protect from AoO's, but that is just not true. OK thanks.