Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lokenarin 06-02-07, 11:31 PM	2 questions 1. I have a player who is asking if he can use ride by attack with a lance (10 foot reach) and flank at the same time if at some point he is on the opposite side of an ally attacking an enemy. 2. If the player can get the flank on the back of a charging mount (ride by attack). do the bonus's stack. +2 to attack for charge and double damage for lance and +2 to attack for flank and any sneak attack damage if the the mounted player is a rogue. loken
theotherdraxen 06-02-07, 11:46 PM	Yes to both.
Lokenarin 06-03-07, 12:35 AM	I know you can charge to your enemy and END up in the flank. but using "ride by attack" with a reach weapon (lance) and attack from 10 feet away (can't attack with a lance and be adjescent at the same time) and contintue with your move, It dosnt look like you will ever be directly on the oposite side and there for in a flank. look at the diagram on pg. 152 of the PHB.
jaelis 06-03-07, 12:55 AM	I know you can charge to your enemy and END up in the flank. but using "ride by attack" with a reach weapon (lance) and attack from 10 feet away (can't attack with a lance and be adjescent at the same time) and contintue with your move, It dosnt look like you will ever be directly on the oposite side and there for in a flank. look at the diagram on pg. 152 of the PHB. Not sure what the problem is. You have to follow the normal rules for RbA, including making your attack in the first square you are able to. But if you have an ally on the other side of your opponent at that time, then you are flanking him and get the bonus. Maybe I see what you're saying. Suppose it looked like this: 0a00 0x00 0000 00h0 where you are 'h', your ally are 'a' and your opponent is 'x'. Then its not obvious that x is flanked. But in fact the line between the centers of h and a passes through the lower right corner of x's square, which counts as part of the lower border, and thus works for flanking. But also, you can usually RbA like this 0a00 0x00 0000 0h00 (which clearly flanks), and then take a diagonal move after attacking to get by. That will often still make a "straight" line for the charge.
Southernskies 06-03-07, 05:29 AM	For the strait line of the charge, you should apply the rules as per line attack spells. If you're deliberately offsetting, then you're not following the spirit of the rules which requires you to "charge in a strait line towards your target". You can get past a target with rideby, but you need to be off-set from the target to start with.
El_Machinae 06-03-07, 09:07 AM	The person doing the Ride by Attack can get the benefits of a flank. For his buddy's attack, though (unless there was a readied action), the buddy won't get the benefit.
jaelis 06-03-07, 09:34 AM	For the strait line of the charge, you should apply the rules as per line attack spells. If you're deliberately offsetting, then you're not following the spirit of the rules which requires you to "charge in a strait line towards your target". You can get past a target with rideby, but you need to be off-set from the target to start with. Note the FAQ clarification When using the Ride-By attack feat, you must conduct your charge so that you move in a straight line toward the closest square from which it is possible to attack your chosen foe, so long as it is a square that allows you to attack and then continue on in the straight line of the charge. You still must attack your foe the moment you reach that square. (Although the feat description doesn’t say so, you and your mount also must move at least 5 feet after you make your attack to get the benefit of the feat.) This is a special rule for charging when using the Ride-By Attack feat. If there are multiple squares that work and are the same distance from you, you can choose which one to charge through.
Lokenarin 06-03-07, 02:12 PM	jaelis, i think you did it best with the x's and o's up put up in a prior post. that was exactly what i was asking and you did it well. thanks loken