Anima Mage: Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Anima Mage: Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Ekko
12-31-07, 03:52 PM Is the "ability to bind a 2nd-level vestige" requirement for the Anima Mage (Tome of Magic) fufilled by taking the Bind Vestige and Improved Bind Vestige feats?
Sinfire Titan
12-31-07, 11:45 PM Is the "ability to bind a 2nd-level vestige" requirement for the Anima Mage (Tome of Magic) fufilled by taking the Bind Vestige and Improved Bind Vestige feats?

Yes.
Ekko
01-01-08, 11:01 AM Awesome. Thanks!

That means I can take my 1st level of Anima mage at 4th level, and get free soulbinding!
Realms of Chaos
01-01-08, 11:45 PM What do you mean, free soulbinding?

Your effective binder level is increased but you are still limited to low level vestiges, only get one at a time, and only get one ability from it (or two, if you take the third related feat).
Ekko
01-01-08, 11:57 PM No...

My Anima Mage levels stack with my Binder levels for determining my Soulbinding ability. Bind Vestige (and the following feats) don't actually give you the Soulbinding ability, so the Anima Mage levels don't increase their effective binder level, but add their own. A Wiz3/Bind7/Anima 10 can use soulbinding as a 17th level binder, and a Wiz3/Anima 10/Anything7 can use soulbinding as a 10th level binder. He also, because of the wording in Bind Vestige, can still use the feats (as he does not actually take a level in Binder, and thus doesn't invalidate the feat).
InkBlot
01-02-08, 01:03 AM That's not how it works. Anima Mage improves your Binder levels, so if you don't have any Binder levels to improve then that class feature is wasted. It's just like if you take a "+1 caster level" prestige class without any existing caster levels.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ekko 12-31-07, 03:52 PM	Is the "ability to bind a 2nd-level vestige" requirement for the Anima Mage (Tome of Magic) fufilled by taking the Bind Vestige and Improved Bind Vestige feats?
Sinfire Titan 12-31-07, 11:45 PM	Is the "ability to bind a 2nd-level vestige" requirement for the Anima Mage (Tome of Magic) fufilled by taking the Bind Vestige and Improved Bind Vestige feats? Yes.
Ekko 01-01-08, 11:01 AM	Awesome. Thanks! That means I can take my 1st level of Anima mage at 4th level, and get free soulbinding!
Realms of Chaos 01-01-08, 11:45 PM	What do you mean, free soulbinding? Your effective binder level is increased but you are still limited to low level vestiges, only get one at a time, and only get one ability from it (or two, if you take the third related feat).
Ekko 01-01-08, 11:57 PM	No... My Anima Mage levels stack with my Binder levels for determining my Soulbinding ability. Bind Vestige (and the following feats) don't actually give you the Soulbinding ability, so the Anima Mage levels don't increase their effective binder level, but add their own. A Wiz3/Bind7/Anima 10 can use soulbinding as a 17th level binder, and a Wiz3/Anima 10/Anything7 can use soulbinding as a 10th level binder. He also, because of the wording in Bind Vestige, can still use the feats (as he does not actually take a level in Binder, and thus doesn't invalidate the feat).
InkBlot 01-02-08, 01:03 AM	That's not how it works. Anima Mage improves your Binder levels, so if you don't have any Binder levels to improve then that class feature is wasted. It's just like if you take a "+1 caster level" prestige class without any existing caster levels.