Archer with more than one attack per round [Archive] - Wizards Community

Archer with more than one attack per round [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Xeres
08-21-07, 01:49 PM Is there a feat that allows you to draw and fire more than one arrow per round. Say 5 Seperate attacks, Because with a Bow you have to draw an arrow before you can fire it, that takes a standard action normally, for instance with my rogue I would like to be able to use All 3 attacks sequentially one attack then my second and then finally my third, but all in the same round. It seems to me that archers are stunted in this way, that they only get one attack or have to use feats that lower there attack bonus to actually fire more than one arrow.
tarkin
08-21-07, 02:16 PM Archer with the feat Rapid shot gets one extra attacks when doing a full round attack action

Archer with BAB of 6 gets two attacks as a full round action. (3 with Rapid Shot)

Archer with BAB of 11 gets three attacks as a full round action. (4 with Rapid Shot)

Archer with BAB of 16 gets four attacks as a full round action. (5 with Rapid Shot)

In all of the above you can not move more than 5ft as you are doing a full round action.
In all of the above methods, you can fire the attacks in order, changing who you attack if you want to (like if you kill someone or you see the arrows pass through them.)

Archer that takes Manyshot may do the exact same number of attacks as he would normally get, but with a slightly different to hit values, all as a standard action instead of as a Full Round Attack Action. Some restrictions on how far apart his targets may be, and they must all be fired at the same time.

Archers using the spell Haste or a Bow of Speed can get a single extra attack that stacks with Rapid shot and all your BAB attacks, when doing a full attack action.

Archers can use a bow with the splitting enchantment to double the number of arrows fired.
foxtail
08-21-07, 02:21 PM Remember that, as the PHB states, "When using a bow, a character can draw ammunition as a free action." Archers get as many attacks as their BAB allows on a full attack action, unless they're using some feat or attack option that increases or decreases this number.
StevenO
08-21-07, 03:04 PM Bow users can draw arrows as free actions which will allow them to get in full attacks without problems.

CROSSBOW users can also draw ammunition as a free action but they run into a problem because of reloading which a regular bow doesn't have. The Rapid Reload feat will allow reloading a Light Crossbow as a free action instead of a move action allowing it to get full attacks just like a bow.
Nom
08-21-07, 11:23 PM Because with a Bow you have to draw an arrow before you can fire it, that takes a standard action normallyDrawing ammunition is a free action. Loading a bow is a free action. Loading a light or hand crossbow is a move action. Loading a heavy crossbow is a full round action. I'm not aware of any projectile weapon which requires a standard action to load.
foxtail
08-22-07, 07:24 AM I'm not aware of any projectile weapon which requires a standard action to load.

Firearms.
BaseDeltaZero
08-22-07, 08:01 AM Firearms.

Specifically, modern magazine-fed firearms.
ShanxAlot
08-22-07, 03:56 PM Specifically, modern magazine-fed firearms.

But isn't that in regard to reloading a clip? Which is similar to replacing the bolt cartridge of a repeating crossbow?

It's balanced out as it is.

Also I'm assuming the initial questions has been answered as we haven't heard much from the OP.
Bedlamtom
08-22-07, 04:14 PM Where is the splitting enhanceemnt from?

Thanks.
foxtail
08-23-07, 09:07 AM Specifically, modern magazine-fed firearms.

I was referring to the renaissance firearms from the DMG, actually. But you're right, too.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Xeres 08-21-07, 01:49 PM	Is there a feat that allows you to draw and fire more than one arrow per round. Say 5 Seperate attacks, Because with a Bow you have to draw an arrow before you can fire it, that takes a standard action normally, for instance with my rogue I would like to be able to use All 3 attacks sequentially one attack then my second and then finally my third, but all in the same round. It seems to me that archers are stunted in this way, that they only get one attack or have to use feats that lower there attack bonus to actually fire more than one arrow.
tarkin 08-21-07, 02:16 PM	Archer with the feat Rapid shot gets one extra attacks when doing a full round attack action Archer with BAB of 6 gets two attacks as a full round action. (3 with Rapid Shot) Archer with BAB of 11 gets three attacks as a full round action. (4 with Rapid Shot) Archer with BAB of 16 gets four attacks as a full round action. (5 with Rapid Shot) In all of the above you can not move more than 5ft as you are doing a full round action. In all of the above methods, you can fire the attacks in order, changing who you attack if you want to (like if you kill someone or you see the arrows pass through them.) Archer that takes Manyshot may do the exact same number of attacks as he would normally get, but with a slightly different to hit values, all as a standard action instead of as a Full Round Attack Action. Some restrictions on how far apart his targets may be, and they must all be fired at the same time. Archers using the spell Haste or a Bow of Speed can get a single extra attack that stacks with Rapid shot and all your BAB attacks, when doing a full attack action. Archers can use a bow with the splitting enchantment to double the number of arrows fired.
foxtail 08-21-07, 02:21 PM	Remember that, as the PHB states, "When using a bow, a character can draw ammunition as a free action." Archers get as many attacks as their BAB allows on a full attack action, unless they're using some feat or attack option that increases or decreases this number.
StevenO 08-21-07, 03:04 PM	Bow users can draw arrows as free actions which will allow them to get in full attacks without problems. CROSSBOW users can also draw ammunition as a free action but they run into a problem because of reloading which a regular bow doesn't have. The Rapid Reload feat will allow reloading a Light Crossbow as a free action instead of a move action allowing it to get full attacks just like a bow.
Nom 08-21-07, 11:23 PM	Because with a Bow you have to draw an arrow before you can fire it, that takes a standard action normallyDrawing ammunition is a free action. Loading a bow is a free action. Loading a light or hand crossbow is a move action. Loading a heavy crossbow is a full round action. I'm not aware of any projectile weapon which requires a standard action to load.
foxtail 08-22-07, 07:24 AM	I'm not aware of any projectile weapon which requires a standard action to load. Firearms.
BaseDeltaZero 08-22-07, 08:01 AM	Firearms. Specifically, modern magazine-fed firearms.
ShanxAlot 08-22-07, 03:56 PM	Specifically, modern magazine-fed firearms. But isn't that in regard to reloading a clip? Which is similar to replacing the bolt cartridge of a repeating crossbow? It's balanced out as it is. Also I'm assuming the initial questions has been answered as we haven't heard much from the OP.
Bedlamtom 08-22-07, 04:14 PM	Where is the splitting enhanceemnt from? Thanks.
foxtail 08-23-07, 09:07 AM	Specifically, modern magazine-fed firearms. I was referring to the renaissance firearms from the DMG, actually. But you're right, too.