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The_Black_Cat 04-22-07, 11:24 AM	I wasn't sure if this question should be asked in the classes or feat section. I was wondering what would happen if you use the "Ascetic" with a gestalt. Same goes with the Stunning Fist. Ascetic Stalker for example. It allows your ninja levels to count towards your unarmed damage, and your monk levels to count towards your Ki Pool. So if I gestalt a Monk/Ninja and use the Ascetic Stalker feat wouldn't I get twice the Ki Pool and Unarmed damage? You would be counting both levels because that is what the feat says. So at level 20 you would have 4d10 to your punches and a base Ki Pool of 40. Let's say you then grab the Jutsu focus feat which allows each Ki point to count as two when you use a jutsu. You now have 80 in your Ki Pool (theoretically). Then we come to Stunning Fist which says that for each level of monk you get one use and for every two levels of another class you get 1. So then at level 20 you would could use stunning fist 30 times. What do you think? And if it isn't allowed, why not? Overpowered?
Xaxor 04-22-07, 01:26 PM	If you're playing Gestalt, it's stupid to take any of the Ascetic feats. The section in UA that covers gestalt clearly states that any stuff like Mystic Theurge is not to be used. These feats are pretty much the same.
WarColonel 04-22-07, 04:31 PM	Designing a level 15 gestalt, our DM used this rule for the Ascetic kinds of feats. You cannot gain abilities about your ELC. So, when i made a level 15 rogue on one side, level 3 Swash/3 Scout, 9 whatever, my swashbuckler was effective level 15 for Grace bonuses, my scout was 15 for skirmish, and my rogue did not increase in level. We decided that yes, it works, but it won't go above your level.
Vaelan 04-22-07, 05:53 PM	When two classes grant the same ability, you gain it at the faster rate between them. Ascetic Whatever makes both of your classes grant the same ability. According to the gestalt rules, you do not get to double up, you gain it at the faster rate between the two