Augmented... mount? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Augmented... mount? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Perseus_Stoned
04-05-07, 06:07 PM Can the "Augment Summoning" feat augment a Paladin's mount?

Augment Summoning
Each creature you conjure with any summon spell gains a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength and Constitution for the duration of the spell that summoned it.
Found here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#augmentSummoning).

Calling a mount is a conjuration (calling) effect.
Found here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/paladin.htm).

While not necessarily the best use of two feats (you still need Focus: Conjuration) it could be an interesting combination for a paladin/summoner build (such as a Cleric 5/Thaumaturgist 5/Paladin 10).
Kyaran
04-05-07, 10:04 PM Unfortunately, the rules are against this.

Technically, the Special Mount ability is not a spell and is a Conjuration (calling) effect, and the feat specifically mentions "summon spells" which are Conjuration (summoning).

I'd allow it with proper lack of munchkinism, though.
ClementWillowbreaker
04-06-07, 12:51 PM Like Kyaran said, (calling) and (summoning) are very different. If you want to sink a feat or two to beef up your mount, get a cohort for you mount (rules are in the DMG). If its extraplanar, your DM might allow you to still summon it, giving you essentially the same effect. A Celestial warhorse would be good (for double celestial-ness).
tarkin
04-06-07, 01:04 PM There are in fact feats to upgrade your Mount.

The Feat Celestial Mount (BOED) has pre-reqs of Paladin level 4

The feat Winter's Mount (Frostburn) has only the pre-req of a special mount ability.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Perseus_Stoned 04-05-07, 06:07 PM	Can the "Augment Summoning" feat augment a Paladin's mount? Augment Summoning Each creature you conjure with any summon spell gains a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength and Constitution for the duration of the spell that summoned it. Found here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#augmentSummoning). Calling a mount is a conjuration (calling) effect. Found here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/paladin.htm). While not necessarily the best use of two feats (you still need Focus: Conjuration) it could be an interesting combination for a paladin/summoner build (such as a Cleric 5/Thaumaturgist 5/Paladin 10).
Kyaran 04-05-07, 10:04 PM	Unfortunately, the rules are against this. Technically, the Special Mount ability is not a spell and is a Conjuration (calling) effect, and the feat specifically mentions "summon spells" which are Conjuration (summoning). I'd allow it with proper lack of munchkinism, though.
ClementWillowbreaker 04-06-07, 12:51 PM	Like Kyaran said, (calling) and (summoning) are very different. If you want to sink a feat or two to beef up your mount, get a cohort for you mount (rules are in the DMG). If its extraplanar, your DM might allow you to still summon it, giving you essentially the same effect. A Celestial warhorse would be good (for double celestial-ness).
tarkin 04-06-07, 01:04 PM	There are in fact feats to upgrade your Mount. The Feat Celestial Mount (BOED) has pre-reqs of Paladin level 4 The feat Winter's Mount (Frostburn) has only the pre-req of a special mount ability.