Axe Focus / Mror Stalwart [Archive] - Wizards Community

Axe Focus / Mror Stalwart [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Qrmzlpt
07-09-07, 12:11 PM The Dwarven Fighter racial sub level from Races of Stone gives Axe Focus. It says that Axe Focus gives you +1 to hit when attacking with most axes. It also says that the bonus from Axe Focus doesn't stack with a bonus from Weapon Focus, but that Axe Focus is treated like Weapon Focus if you're trying to qualify for something that requires Weapon Focus.

Mror Stalwart makes it so that if you have Weapon Focus (or Spec., or Imp. Crit, etc.) for any of its applicable weapons (Battleaxe, Dwarven Waraxe, Warhammer, or Urgrosh) then you get the feat bonus for all of its applicable weapons.

Axe Focus is not a shared feat listed by Mror Stalwart, but Axe Focus says it qualifies as Weapon Focus.

If a character has Axe Focus and Mror Stalwart and he attacks with a Warhammer, does he get +1 to his attack from Axe Focus, via Mror Stalwart?

Thanks!

Q
AAB
07-09-07, 01:47 PM yes. i think. i got kinda confused with all the words.
Qrmzlpt
07-09-07, 02:16 PM Ugh.. Sorry. I tend to do that. :(

It's just that Axe Focus isn't technically Weapon Focus. Mror Stalwart shares the bonus from Weapon Focus with other weapons, and Axe Focus says that it ACTS like Weapon Focus in certain circumstances, and I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't overreaching by thinking that the bonus from Axe Focus, like Weapon Focus, could be shared with the other weapons that Mror Stalwart applies to.

Did I just make it worse?

Q
Dalthbar
07-09-07, 02:23 PM If it says that you can use Axe Focus as Weapon Focus in terms of meeting other pre-reqs, then it would count for a feat that requires Weapon Focus for which you're using a weapon covered by Axe Focus. The key here is that this sort of benefit usually only pertains to qualifying for things like other feats or prestige classes.

As for, does this mean you gain that benefit for Mror Stalwart - I don't know. I would need to look at the exact wording of the feat and I don't know what book that's from.
Qrmzlpt
07-09-07, 03:06 PM Whoops! Sorry, I should have mentioned that. The Dwarven Fighter sub. level that gives Axe Focus is from Races of Stone and the Mror Stalwart feat is from Races of Eberron.

Thanks for thinking about this!

Q
Jackmojo
07-09-07, 03:36 PM Sounds fair to me, although I think we've wondered into house rule territory.

Two feats for +1 to hit with what...six or seven total weapons, seems fine to me.

Jack

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Qrmzlpt 07-09-07, 12:11 PM	The Dwarven Fighter racial sub level from Races of Stone gives Axe Focus. It says that Axe Focus gives you +1 to hit when attacking with most axes. It also says that the bonus from Axe Focus doesn't stack with a bonus from Weapon Focus, but that Axe Focus is treated like Weapon Focus if you're trying to qualify for something that requires Weapon Focus. Mror Stalwart makes it so that if you have Weapon Focus (or Spec., or Imp. Crit, etc.) for any of its applicable weapons (Battleaxe, Dwarven Waraxe, Warhammer, or Urgrosh) then you get the feat bonus for all of its applicable weapons. Axe Focus is not a shared feat listed by Mror Stalwart, but Axe Focus says it qualifies as Weapon Focus. If a character has Axe Focus and Mror Stalwart and he attacks with a Warhammer, does he get +1 to his attack from Axe Focus, via Mror Stalwart? Thanks! Q
AAB 07-09-07, 01:47 PM	yes. i think. i got kinda confused with all the words.
Qrmzlpt 07-09-07, 02:16 PM	Ugh.. Sorry. I tend to do that. :( It's just that Axe Focus isn't technically Weapon Focus. Mror Stalwart shares the bonus from Weapon Focus with other weapons, and Axe Focus says that it ACTS like Weapon Focus in certain circumstances, and I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't overreaching by thinking that the bonus from Axe Focus, like Weapon Focus, could be shared with the other weapons that Mror Stalwart applies to. Did I just make it worse? Q
Dalthbar 07-09-07, 02:23 PM	If it says that you can use Axe Focus as Weapon Focus in terms of meeting other pre-reqs, then it would count for a feat that requires Weapon Focus for which you're using a weapon covered by Axe Focus. The key here is that this sort of benefit usually only pertains to qualifying for things like other feats or prestige classes. As for, does this mean you gain that benefit for Mror Stalwart - I don't know. I would need to look at the exact wording of the feat and I don't know what book that's from.
Qrmzlpt 07-09-07, 03:06 PM	Whoops! Sorry, I should have mentioned that. The Dwarven Fighter sub. level that gives Axe Focus is from Races of Stone and the Mror Stalwart feat is from Races of Eberron. Thanks for thinking about this! Q
Jackmojo 07-09-07, 03:36 PM	Sounds fair to me, although I think we've wondered into house rule territory. Two feats for +1 to hit with what...six or seven total weapons, seems fine to me. Jack