Battle blessing & prestige paladin [Archive] - Wizards Community

Battle blessing & prestige paladin [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
beestje
06-23-07, 11:07 AM Hi all,

I was hoping one of you could help me out with a question about the feat battle blessing in complete champion. I would like to play a dwarven cleric/prestige paladin (in unearthed arcana), but then I was thinking if I could use battle blessing.
My thoughts are that there are 4 ways it might work:
1) No effect on any of my spells
2) only the spells which are unique for paladins are effected
3) all spells from the paladin list are effected
4) all spells are effected

Please tell me in which way you think it works.

Thanks in advance :)

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Thunder Dragonbane
06-24-07, 10:41 AM I lent the book out the other day so it is not in front of me at the moment.

I think it says that Paladin spells take less time to cast. So any spell you cast from your much larger cleric list will not be effected.
beestje
06-24-07, 04:30 PM I lent the book out the other day so it is not in front of me at the moment.

I think it says that Paladin spells take less time to cast. So any spell you cast from your much larger cleric list will not be effected.

Thanks for your response Thunder Dragonbone. I agree I also think that it will not work for all cleric spells, but do you think it will work for all the paladin spells (opion 3)?
beestje
06-26-07, 12:26 PM :bump:
beestje
06-28-07, 02:44 PM Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Which one of the following do you think applies to this combination: Battle blessing & prestige paladin.
1) No effect on any of my spells
2) only the spells which are unique for paladins are effected
3) all spells from the paladin list are effected

Thanks,
B
tarkin
06-28-07, 02:51 PM I would rule the Prestige Paladin counts as a Paladin.

By the way, you left out what I consider to be the reall case:

When casting a spell using a PALADIN spell slot, then it applies.

I.E. It does not matter at all if the spell is on another list, but it DOES matter which spell slot you used to cast the spell.
beestje
06-28-07, 03:10 PM When casting a spell using a PALADIN spell slot, then it applies.

I.E. It does not matter at all if the spell is on another list, but it DOES matter which spell slot you used to cast the spell.

Thanks for your reply, I think you have a good point, I just hope it doesn't work like this ;).
In that case I would argue, that a cleric/prestige paladin couldn't cast any spells using battle blessing, since he doesn't have any paladin slots, but only cleric slots :(.

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beestje
07-07-07, 08:38 AM :bump:

I think 3 options remain (thanks for your input tarkin and Thunder Dragonbane)

1) When casting a spell using a PALADIN spell slot, then "battle blessing" applies
2) only the spells which are unique for paladins are effected, even if I use a cleric slot, then "battle blessing" applies
3) all spells from the paladin list are effected,
even if I use a cleric slot, then "battle blessing" applies

Personally I think option 3 applies, what do you think?
Thunder Dragonbane
07-07-07, 11:06 AM #1 and #1 only.
beestje
07-07-07, 11:22 AM #1 and #1 only.

Also when you use prestige paladin?
Because then you can't take normal paladin anymore.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
beestje 06-23-07, 11:07 AM	Hi all, I was hoping one of you could help me out with a question about the feat battle blessing in complete champion. I would like to play a dwarven cleric/prestige paladin (in unearthed arcana), but then I was thinking if I could use battle blessing. My thoughts are that there are 4 ways it might work: 1) No effect on any of my spells 2) only the spells which are unique for paladins are effected 3) all spells from the paladin list are effected 4) all spells are effected Please tell me in which way you think it works. Thanks in advance :) B
Thunder Dragonbane 06-24-07, 10:41 AM	I lent the book out the other day so it is not in front of me at the moment. I think it says that Paladin spells take less time to cast. So any spell you cast from your much larger cleric list will not be effected.
beestje 06-24-07, 04:30 PM	I lent the book out the other day so it is not in front of me at the moment. I think it says that Paladin spells take less time to cast. So any spell you cast from your much larger cleric list will not be effected. Thanks for your response Thunder Dragonbone. I agree I also think that it will not work for all cleric spells, but do you think it will work for all the paladin spells (opion 3)?
beestje 06-26-07, 12:26 PM	:bump:
beestje 06-28-07, 02:44 PM	Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Which one of the following do you think applies to this combination: Battle blessing & prestige paladin. 1) No effect on any of my spells 2) only the spells which are unique for paladins are effected 3) all spells from the paladin list are effected Thanks, B
tarkin 06-28-07, 02:51 PM	I would rule the Prestige Paladin counts as a Paladin. By the way, you left out what I consider to be the reall case: When casting a spell using a PALADIN spell slot, then it applies. I.E. It does not matter at all if the spell is on another list, but it DOES matter which spell slot you used to cast the spell.
beestje 06-28-07, 03:10 PM	When casting a spell using a PALADIN spell slot, then it applies. I.E. It does not matter at all if the spell is on another list, but it DOES matter which spell slot you used to cast the spell. Thanks for your reply, I think you have a good point, I just hope it doesn't work like this ;). In that case I would argue, that a cleric/prestige paladin couldn't cast any spells using battle blessing, since he doesn't have any paladin slots, but only cleric slots :(. B
beestje 07-07-07, 08:38 AM	:bump: I think 3 options remain (thanks for your input tarkin and Thunder Dragonbane) 1) When casting a spell using a PALADIN spell slot, then "battle blessing" applies 2) only the spells which are unique for paladins are effected, even if I use a cleric slot, then "battle blessing" applies 3) all spells from the paladin list are effected, even if I use a cleric slot, then "battle blessing" applies Personally I think option 3 applies, what do you think?
Thunder Dragonbane 07-07-07, 11:06 AM	#1 and #1 only.
beestje 07-07-07, 11:22 AM	#1 and #1 only. Also when you use prestige paladin? Because then you can't take normal paladin anymore.