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Whisper_Swiftblade
02-20-08, 07:01 PM I have on occation on this forum seen people create an intirely new class to represent a martial art, however it seems to me that if used correctly a fighter (or any class realy) should be able to emulate just about whatever real life martial art you want (and mostly in core no less!).

so let's make some feat combos to represent unarmed fighting in real life.

basic strikeing (punch, kick, ect.)
Improved unarmed strike[ (IUS) represents most basic strikes, and is clearly a lynchpin in many systems, for obvious reasons.
weapon focus (WF), and specialsation(WS) are naturaly not a bad idea either.

Above the waste kicks/haymakers.
Kicks aimed above the hips take longer to get to their target than the average strike, because you are effectivly sending one of the heavyest parts of you, a considerable distance, this makes such attacks powerful, but more simply evaded, as such a combanation of IUS and Power Attack fits the bill nicely.

Take downs/throws
Take downs are effectivly just what they sound like, methods of putting an opponent on the ground. The easyest way to acomplish this in D&D is simple application of IMP trip, and any other trip based feats you feel fit the bill. Throws (they type that don't send people cartoonishly flying great distances) can also be made from trips, but I have yet to fing a proper way to emulate the powerful slaming effects many throws have on the opponent.

Ground fighing/ submitions/choaks/holds
Imp Grapple, what more is there to say, well there is WF, and WS, but those are kinda obvious, and I have toyed with the idea of weather a Powerattack can be applied to a grapple. As I understand it there are losts of grappleing feats out side of core worth exploring.

Example Martial art feat list

(feats not nessesarly in optimal order)
Brazilian jujitsu

1) imp unarmed strike (so that grapples can kill with damage, if I remember the rules correctly this is nessesary)
2)Imp trip (take down your foe to make him prone, you don't want him excapeing your grapple!)
3)Imp Grapple (you know why)
4)weapon focus Grapple. (hit them every time)
5)weapon specialsation Grapple. (see above)
6) skill focus excape artist. (play it safe, just in case)
7-X) from here just keep building on what you already have, and add some of your own flavor if need be, I am sure there is lots of great non-core stuff for this.

Boxing
1) Imp unarmed strike
2) two weapon fighting ( left ,left, right left...)
3) imp feint (for feinting, fairly common in boxing)
4) WF unarmed strike (you know why)
5) WS (you know why)
6) Dodge (Bob and weave)
7) Power attack (Have you ever seen Tyson hit!)
8-X) once again it comes down to improveing the foundation, for example IMP TWF would be a nice call.
Optional: weapon finness might not be a bad idea for some of the lighter fighters, or for olympic style boxing.

so guys, tell me what you think, and don't be afraid to add your own material of this ilk.
Ekko
02-20-08, 07:35 PM WF/S "Grapple" doesn't exist, as grappling isn't a weapon. Unarmed Strikes, are weapons, and can be used in grappling. Also, *all* martial arts should require at least WF(US) and IUS. It just makes sense.

I want to see nagitanajutsu. That would be fun!
VulcanStormwrath
02-20-08, 07:43 PM There needs to be a means of "Sundering" an unarmed strike or natural weapon.

Eg. Tropping the punching arm and breaking the elbow.

For the throws they would deal falling damage dictated by the thrower's Dex/Str. Perhaps 1d6 per 2 pts of bonus.

Tumble becomes a very important skill since it can negate damage from throws.

That's just a few quick ideas
Whisper_Swiftblade
02-20-08, 07:51 PM WF/S "Grapple" doesn't exist, as grappling isn't a weapon.

Acctuly they do exist, they are even spicificly mentioned in WF discription.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#weaponSpecialization
pigknight
02-20-08, 07:53 PM I once made a martial artist class (can do karate, capoiera, or ninjustu). It was made to be equal to gestalt classes so its a bit powerful.
narack
02-21-08, 07:54 AM Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head.

The other one is nice, has his own style can be very effective and make beautiful combat.

You should definitively have Karate since it's the base of all martial arts.

Punch : zuki
front kick : Mae Geri (target = knee to head)
Side kick : Yoko Geri (target mid-torso)
Back kick : Ushiro Geri (target = genital to mid-torso)
Round kick : Mawashi Geri (target = floating ribs)
Stance : Kiba-dashi (horse riding position, side facing enemy, strong side kick, strong stability)
Stance : Zenkutsu-dashi (Basic stance, strong front kick, good jump stance, very strong stability, large open area)
Stance : Kukutshu-Dashi (front leg point front back leg point 90 degree angle, fast reaction kicks, non moving stance)

kiba-dashi : side kick, round kick, punch
Zenkutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, punch, back kick
Kukutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, side kick, punch
Whisper_Swiftblade
02-21-08, 03:22 PM Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head.

ah but it is, as for being slow, there are boxers who strike at speeds faster than even trained eyes can follow, in addition, boxing is not always the western sport you are thinking of (though to an extent it counts), the term boxing is a generalised term for combat styiles focusing strongly or exclusivly on strikes delivered from the upper body (arms), for example Wing chun is sometimes described as boxing.

now back on topic

example
Karate
1) imp unarmed strike (duh)
2) improved critical (for strikes to vonerable areas)
3) combat expertise (for defencive strikes/stances)
4) power attacks (for offencive strikes/stances)
5) WF (as usual)
6) WS (as usual)
7-X) as usual right about here we just start building on what is here, you may consider the TWF tree to make combos, perhaps dodge, skill focus tumble ect.
mplindustries
02-22-08, 04:42 AM Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head.

The other one is nice, has his own style can be very effective and make beautiful combat.

You should definitively have Karate since it's the base of all martial arts...

What??

Boxing is as much a martial art as any other that has become a sport. Do I love boxing? No, but it counts. And yeah, the Wing Chun thing said previously.

As for Karate being the base of all martial arts...uh? Karate is one of the newer martial arts.

In fact, I'd put bets on pankration being the "first martial art," if there even can be said to be one. The greeks innovated a lot of hand to hand fighting, which Alexander the Great brought with him on his conquests in Asia. I kind of think a lot of "Eastern" martial arts had a western origin.

Regardless, I think almost every martial art in Asia is older than Karate. Well, ok, thats hyperbole, but I can guaruntee you various Kung Fu styles are far older. Most of Japanese culture is based in Chinese culture, and the martial arts are no different. The various Silats are at least as old as well.

Anyway, I apologize for effectively offering nothing to this conversation, but come on...what is this guy talking about? And what was with that totally super helpful list of japanese names for various kicks and punches? Are those feats I'm not aware of? Oh right, it was showing off. :rolleyes:

Sorry again, I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
Captain_Kobold
02-22-08, 07:25 AM You might want to specify whether you are talking Martial Arts in general, or just Unarmed Martial Arts specifically.

With many of the unarmed styles, Superior Unarmed Strike from the Tome of battle is probably a good choice.

Many throws could be represented by the Improved Trip feat with the additional attack not representing you hitting your opponent when he is down, but instead attempting to damage him with the impact with the ground.
A lot of the throws in Judo and similar styles might be represented by first grappling, then attacking your opponent with a trip attack as the 'attack your opponent' option.

While the fighter is undoubtedly the "purest" of the Martial Artists, I'm guessing most people would choose to use the Monk or Swordsage class for their mechanical benefits.
I do salute you for going back to the basics however, and not trying to introduce fifteen new classes for each esoteric school of a particular style. :tiphat:
narack
02-22-08, 08:03 AM As for Karate being the base of all martial arts...uh? Karate is one of the newer martial arts.

Most people that ren't really in martials arts are thinking that it come from japanese or chinese. It actually started in 1429 on Okinawa island, all weapon has been banned from the island. Chinese, japanese, tai, koreans, were various visitor of this island and because of that rule they started creating multiple different martial arts. The first Martials Arts was known as "Te" pronunciations is like "Tea". It later become a nearly a law to learn that combat technique which was focus on mastering the Hand and feet technique. Te also mean Hand in some dialect. This arts came to be know and change later as Kara-Te to finish Karate in one word as we know know it.

Surrounding country started to use this combat technique and it been modified with time. change style. Most commonly known martial arts derivation from Karate are Kunfu and tae-kwon-do. Some style base style of karate remain like : Bushido, Aikido, Jutsitsu. The one that kept the most the karate original form is the Shotokan style. There is a really good book with picture that bruce lee did and he coma back to the root of karate to develop his style. Also another know guy, a certain Jackie Chan one of the only Bruce lee student that i now about, take his technique and also base himself alot on kunfu and developped alot of technique and style for a total of nearly 20 styles (South Shaoilin, North Shaolin i guess are his 2 most known or maybe the only one i can remeber). I'm a fan of the Drunken Master technique position and combo and i use it mix with bruce lee punches and defence. After 14 years of doing martial arts that's what my style his.
TifRhal
02-22-08, 01:46 PM Bodhidharma was his Indian name and he was a Buddhist believed to be of a high ranking family. He left India discouraged with the trappings of his family’s wealth and sought enlightenment. He wandered to China and came to a small monastery in the Songshan mountains around 520 A.D. This monastery is the now famous Shaolin temple.

There Bodhidharma, whose Chinese name was Ta-Mo, introduced the monks to what was to become Zen Buddhism. Zen Buddhists practice long periods of static meditation in order to achieve enlightenment. It is said that Ta-Mo himself meditated continuously in a cave for nine years “listening to the ants scream.” To help the monks sustain their physical health he taught them exercises that were fundamentally martial arts. Thus we see that the legend really portrays the introduction of martial arts as a component of health, philosophy, and religion.

Over the centuries that followed, martial arts in China continued to develop until China became known as the home of martial arts. During this period of development these arts spread to other Asian countries including Japan, Korea, and the Philippines. Today these countries and others have their own tradition of indigenous martial arts influenced by the Chinese.

Just as mankind had invented and developed concepts like language and government since civilization began, so too has he developed the martial arts. The martial arts are not the property of any one people – they belong to all of us – and they will continue to develop in the future.
pigknight
02-22-08, 01:50 PM Bodhidharma was his Indian name and he was a Buddhist believed to be of a high ranking family. He left India discouraged with the trappings of his family’s wealth and sought enlightenment. He wandered to China and came to a small monastery in the Songshan mountains around 520 A.D. This monastery is the now famous Shaolin temple.

There Bodhidharma, whose Chinese name was Ta-Mo, introduced the monks to what was to become Zen Buddhism. Zen Buddhists practice long periods of static meditation in order to achieve enlightenment. It is said that Ta-Mo himself meditated continuously in a cave for nine years “listening to the ants scream.” To help the monks sustain their physical health he taught them exercises that were fundamentally martial arts. Thus we see that the legend really portrays the introduction of martial arts as a component of health, philosophy, and religion.

Over the centuries that followed, martial arts in China continued to develop until China became known as the home of martial arts. During this period of development these arts spread to other Asian countries including Japan, Korea, and the Philippines. Today these countries and others have their own tradition of indigenous martial arts influenced by the Chinese.

Just as mankind had invented and developed concepts like language and government since civilization began, so too has he developed the martial arts. The martial arts are not the property of any one people – they belong to all of us – and they will continue to develop in the future.

Ding, ding, ding!! We have a winner! :monk: Now let's get back to building some sort of martial artist. It probably would need superior unarmed strike, monk levels and swordsage/warblade levels.
Whisper_Swiftblade
02-22-08, 04:40 PM Aikido
1) imp trip (take them down)
2) imp grapple (keep them there)
3) imp feint (alot of techniques in Aikido involve pulling someone one way only to thrust them anlther when they resist, I felt that IF represented this well enuff)
4) combat expertise (Aikido is all about the defence, all the time, everytime)
5) imp disarm (is known for such techs)
6) WF grapple (no surprise here)
7) WS grapple (dido)
8) IUS
9-X) As usual for some reason when we hit about this level the time comes when we just build on what is already here.
vagabonvoid
02-22-08, 04:46 PM Aikido
8-X) you may be surprised that this is the only one so far without IUS, however as Aikido is almost entirely defencive, and largly lacking of strikes this feels appropriet. As usual for some reason when we hit about this level the time comes when we just build on what is already here.

To qualify for Imp Grapple you have to have IUS... Also, even Akido teaches basic strikes...
VulcanStormwrath
02-22-08, 04:50 PM Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head.

The other one is nice, has his own style can be very effective and make beautiful combat.

You should definitively have Karate since it's the base of all martial arts.

Punch : zuki
front kick : Mae Geri (target = knee to head)
Side kick : Yoko Geri (target mid-torso)
Back kick : Ushiro Geri (target = genital to mid-torso)
Round kick : Mawashi Geri (target = floating ribs)
Stance : Kiba-dashi (horse riding position, side facing enemy, strong side kick, strong stability)
Stance : Zenkutsu-dashi (Basic stance, strong front kick, good jump stance, very strong stability, large open area)
Stance : Kukutshu-Dashi (front leg point front back leg point 90 degree angle, fast reaction kicks, non moving stance)

kiba-dashi : side kick, round kick, punch
Zenkutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, punch, back kick
Kukutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, side kick, punch

The Base of all Martial Arts??? Are you joking??? The Triumvirate of Tsing -I, Pa Kua (Ba Gua), and Tai Chi are extensively older in origin.
Whisper_Swiftblade
02-22-08, 04:54 PM To qualify for Imp Grapple you have to have IUS... Also, even Akido teaches basic strikes...

darn, it appears I was a little off on that one. editing time.

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Whisper_Swiftblade 02-20-08, 07:01 PM	I have on occation on this forum seen people create an intirely new class to represent a martial art, however it seems to me that if used correctly a fighter (or any class realy) should be able to emulate just about whatever real life martial art you want (and mostly in core no less!). so let's make some feat combos to represent unarmed fighting in real life. basic strikeing (punch, kick, ect.) Improved unarmed strike[ (IUS) represents most basic strikes, and is clearly a lynchpin in many systems, for obvious reasons. weapon focus (WF), and specialsation(WS) are naturaly not a bad idea either. Above the waste kicks/haymakers. Kicks aimed above the hips take longer to get to their target than the average strike, because you are effectivly sending one of the heavyest parts of you, a considerable distance, this makes such attacks powerful, but more simply evaded, as such a combanation of IUS and Power Attack fits the bill nicely. Take downs/throws Take downs are effectivly just what they sound like, methods of putting an opponent on the ground. The easyest way to acomplish this in D&D is simple application of IMP trip, and any other trip based feats you feel fit the bill. Throws (they type that don't send people cartoonishly flying great distances) can also be made from trips, but I have yet to fing a proper way to emulate the powerful slaming effects many throws have on the opponent. Ground fighing/ submitions/choaks/holds Imp Grapple, what more is there to say, well there is WF, and WS, but those are kinda obvious, and I have toyed with the idea of weather a Powerattack can be applied to a grapple. As I understand it there are losts of grappleing feats out side of core worth exploring. Example Martial art feat list (feats not nessesarly in optimal order) Brazilian jujitsu 1) imp unarmed strike (so that grapples can kill with damage, if I remember the rules correctly this is nessesary) 2)Imp trip (take down your foe to make him prone, you don't want him excapeing your grapple!) 3)Imp Grapple (you know why) 4)weapon focus Grapple. (hit them every time) 5)weapon specialsation Grapple. (see above) 6) skill focus excape artist. (play it safe, just in case) 7-X) from here just keep building on what you already have, and add some of your own flavor if need be, I am sure there is lots of great non-core stuff for this. Boxing 1) Imp unarmed strike 2) two weapon fighting ( left ,left, right left...) 3) imp feint (for feinting, fairly common in boxing) 4) WF unarmed strike (you know why) 5) WS (you know why) 6) Dodge (Bob and weave) 7) Power attack (Have you ever seen Tyson hit!) 8-X) once again it comes down to improveing the foundation, for example IMP TWF would be a nice call. Optional: weapon finness might not be a bad idea for some of the lighter fighters, or for olympic style boxing. so guys, tell me what you think, and don't be afraid to add your own material of this ilk.
Ekko 02-20-08, 07:35 PM	WF/S "Grapple" doesn't exist, as grappling isn't a weapon. Unarmed Strikes, are weapons, and can be used in grappling. Also, all martial arts should require at least WF(US) and IUS. It just makes sense. I want to see nagitanajutsu. That would be fun!
VulcanStormwrath 02-20-08, 07:43 PM	There needs to be a means of "Sundering" an unarmed strike or natural weapon. Eg. Tropping the punching arm and breaking the elbow. For the throws they would deal falling damage dictated by the thrower's Dex/Str. Perhaps 1d6 per 2 pts of bonus. Tumble becomes a very important skill since it can negate damage from throws. That's just a few quick ideas
Whisper_Swiftblade 02-20-08, 07:51 PM	WF/S "Grapple" doesn't exist, as grappling isn't a weapon. Acctuly they do exist, they are even spicificly mentioned in WF discription. http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#weaponSpecialization
pigknight 02-20-08, 07:53 PM	I once made a martial artist class (can do karate, capoiera, or ninjustu). It was made to be equal to gestalt classes so its a bit powerful.
narack 02-21-08, 07:54 AM	Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head. The other one is nice, has his own style can be very effective and make beautiful combat. You should definitively have Karate since it's the base of all martial arts. Punch : zuki front kick : Mae Geri (target = knee to head) Side kick : Yoko Geri (target mid-torso) Back kick : Ushiro Geri (target = genital to mid-torso) Round kick : Mawashi Geri (target = floating ribs) Stance : Kiba-dashi (horse riding position, side facing enemy, strong side kick, strong stability) Stance : Zenkutsu-dashi (Basic stance, strong front kick, good jump stance, very strong stability, large open area) Stance : Kukutshu-Dashi (front leg point front back leg point 90 degree angle, fast reaction kicks, non moving stance) kiba-dashi : side kick, round kick, punch Zenkutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, punch, back kick Kukutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, side kick, punch
Whisper_Swiftblade 02-21-08, 03:22 PM	Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head. ah but it is, as for being slow, there are boxers who strike at speeds faster than even trained eyes can follow, in addition, boxing is not always the western sport you are thinking of (though to an extent it counts), the term boxing is a generalised term for combat styiles focusing strongly or exclusivly on strikes delivered from the upper body (arms), for example Wing chun is sometimes described as boxing. now back on topic example Karate 1) imp unarmed strike (duh) 2) improved critical (for strikes to vonerable areas) 3) combat expertise (for defencive strikes/stances) 4) power attacks (for offencive strikes/stances) 5) WF (as usual) 6) WS (as usual) 7-X) as usual right about here we just start building on what is here, you may consider the TWF tree to make combos, perhaps dodge, skill focus tumble ect.
mplindustries 02-22-08, 04:42 AM	Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head. The other one is nice, has his own style can be very effective and make beautiful combat. You should definitively have Karate since it's the base of all martial arts... What?? Boxing is as much a martial art as any other that has become a sport. Do I love boxing? No, but it counts. And yeah, the Wing Chun thing said previously. As for Karate being the base of all martial arts...uh? Karate is one of the newer martial arts. In fact, I'd put bets on pankration being the "first martial art," if there even can be said to be one. The greeks innovated a lot of hand to hand fighting, which Alexander the Great brought with him on his conquests in Asia. I kind of think a lot of "Eastern" martial arts had a western origin. Regardless, I think almost every martial art in Asia is older than Karate. Well, ok, thats hyperbole, but I can guaruntee you various Kung Fu styles are far older. Most of Japanese culture is based in Chinese culture, and the martial arts are no different. The various Silats are at least as old as well. Anyway, I apologize for effectively offering nothing to this conversation, but come on...what is this guy talking about? And what was with that totally super helpful list of japanese names for various kicks and punches? Are those feats I'm not aware of? Oh right, it was showing off. :rolleyes: Sorry again, I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
Captain_Kobold 02-22-08, 07:25 AM	You might want to specify whether you are talking Martial Arts in general, or just Unarmed Martial Arts specifically. With many of the unarmed styles, Superior Unarmed Strike from the Tome of battle is probably a good choice. Many throws could be represented by the Improved Trip feat with the additional attack not representing you hitting your opponent when he is down, but instead attempting to damage him with the impact with the ground. A lot of the throws in Judo and similar styles might be represented by first grappling, then attacking your opponent with a trip attack as the 'attack your opponent' option. While the fighter is undoubtedly the "purest" of the Martial Artists, I'm guessing most people would choose to use the Monk or Swordsage class for their mechanical benefits. I do salute you for going back to the basics however, and not trying to introduce fifteen new classes for each esoteric school of a particular style. :tiphat:
narack 02-22-08, 08:03 AM	As for Karate being the base of all martial arts...uh? Karate is one of the newer martial arts. Most people that ren't really in martials arts are thinking that it come from japanese or chinese. It actually started in 1429 on Okinawa island, all weapon has been banned from the island. Chinese, japanese, tai, koreans, were various visitor of this island and because of that rule they started creating multiple different martial arts. The first Martials Arts was known as "Te" pronunciations is like "Tea". It later become a nearly a law to learn that combat technique which was focus on mastering the Hand and feet technique. Te also mean Hand in some dialect. This arts came to be know and change later as Kara-Te to finish Karate in one word as we know know it. Surrounding country started to use this combat technique and it been modified with time. change style. Most commonly known martial arts derivation from Karate are Kunfu and tae-kwon-do. Some style base style of karate remain like : Bushido, Aikido, Jutsitsu. The one that kept the most the karate original form is the Shotokan style. There is a really good book with picture that bruce lee did and he coma back to the root of karate to develop his style. Also another know guy, a certain Jackie Chan one of the only Bruce lee student that i now about, take his technique and also base himself alot on kunfu and developped alot of technique and style for a total of nearly 20 styles (South Shaoilin, North Shaolin i guess are his 2 most known or maybe the only one i can remeber). I'm a fan of the Drunken Master technique position and combo and i use it mix with bruce lee punches and defence. After 14 years of doing martial arts that's what my style his.
TifRhal 02-22-08, 01:46 PM	Bodhidharma was his Indian name and he was a Buddhist believed to be of a high ranking family. He left India discouraged with the trappings of his family’s wealth and sought enlightenment. He wandered to China and came to a small monastery in the Songshan mountains around 520 A.D. This monastery is the now famous Shaolin temple. There Bodhidharma, whose Chinese name was Ta-Mo, introduced the monks to what was to become Zen Buddhism. Zen Buddhists practice long periods of static meditation in order to achieve enlightenment. It is said that Ta-Mo himself meditated continuously in a cave for nine years “listening to the ants scream.” To help the monks sustain their physical health he taught them exercises that were fundamentally martial arts. Thus we see that the legend really portrays the introduction of martial arts as a component of health, philosophy, and religion. Over the centuries that followed, martial arts in China continued to develop until China became known as the home of martial arts. During this period of development these arts spread to other Asian countries including Japan, Korea, and the Philippines. Today these countries and others have their own tradition of indigenous martial arts influenced by the Chinese. Just as mankind had invented and developed concepts like language and government since civilization began, so too has he developed the martial arts. The martial arts are not the property of any one people – they belong to all of us – and they will continue to develop in the future.
pigknight 02-22-08, 01:50 PM	Bodhidharma was his Indian name and he was a Buddhist believed to be of a high ranking family. He left India discouraged with the trappings of his family’s wealth and sought enlightenment. He wandered to China and came to a small monastery in the Songshan mountains around 520 A.D. This monastery is the now famous Shaolin temple. There Bodhidharma, whose Chinese name was Ta-Mo, introduced the monks to what was to become Zen Buddhism. Zen Buddhists practice long periods of static meditation in order to achieve enlightenment. It is said that Ta-Mo himself meditated continuously in a cave for nine years “listening to the ants scream.” To help the monks sustain their physical health he taught them exercises that were fundamentally martial arts. Thus we see that the legend really portrays the introduction of martial arts as a component of health, philosophy, and religion. Over the centuries that followed, martial arts in China continued to develop until China became known as the home of martial arts. During this period of development these arts spread to other Asian countries including Japan, Korea, and the Philippines. Today these countries and others have their own tradition of indigenous martial arts influenced by the Chinese. Just as mankind had invented and developed concepts like language and government since civilization began, so too has he developed the martial arts. The martial arts are not the property of any one people – they belong to all of us – and they will continue to develop in the future. Ding, ding, ding!! We have a winner! :monk: Now let's get back to building some sort of martial artist. It probably would need superior unarmed strike, monk levels and swordsage/warblade levels.
Whisper_Swiftblade 02-22-08, 04:40 PM	Aikido 1) imp trip (take them down) 2) imp grapple (keep them there) 3) imp feint (alot of techniques in Aikido involve pulling someone one way only to thrust them anlther when they resist, I felt that IF represented this well enuff) 4) combat expertise (Aikido is all about the defence, all the time, everytime) 5) imp disarm (is known for such techs) 6) WF grapple (no surprise here) 7) WS grapple (dido) 8) IUS 9-X) As usual for some reason when we hit about this level the time comes when we just build on what is already here.
vagabonvoid 02-22-08, 04:46 PM	Aikido 8-X) you may be surprised that this is the only one so far without IUS, however as Aikido is almost entirely defencive, and largly lacking of strikes this feels appropriet. As usual for some reason when we hit about this level the time comes when we just build on what is already here. To qualify for Imp Grapple you have to have IUS... Also, even Akido teaches basic strikes...
VulcanStormwrath 02-22-08, 04:50 PM	Boxing isn't martial arts. It's to slow and to open. If you would have said Kick boxing i would have say yes since you use most of your body and by the fact defense it completely instead of only your head. The other one is nice, has his own style can be very effective and make beautiful combat. You should definitively have Karate since it's the base of all martial arts. Punch : zuki front kick : Mae Geri (target = knee to head) Side kick : Yoko Geri (target mid-torso) Back kick : Ushiro Geri (target = genital to mid-torso) Round kick : Mawashi Geri (target = floating ribs) Stance : Kiba-dashi (horse riding position, side facing enemy, strong side kick, strong stability) Stance : Zenkutsu-dashi (Basic stance, strong front kick, good jump stance, very strong stability, large open area) Stance : Kukutshu-Dashi (front leg point front back leg point 90 degree angle, fast reaction kicks, non moving stance) kiba-dashi : side kick, round kick, punch Zenkutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, punch, back kick Kukutsu-dashi : front kick, round kick, side kick, punch The Base of all Martial Arts??? Are you joking??? The Triumvirate of Tsing -I, Pa Kua (Ba Gua), and Tai Chi are extensively older in origin.
Whisper_Swiftblade 02-22-08, 04:54 PM	To qualify for Imp Grapple you have to have IUS... Also, even Akido teaches basic strikes... darn, it appears I was a little off on that one. editing time.