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Darien_Ashoka 04-27-08, 12:08 AM	If I trip someone, do they count as "down" for purposes of a Cleave attempt? From the SRD: CLEAVE [GENERAL] Prerequisites: Str 13, Power Attack. Benefit: If you deal a creature enough damage to make it drop (typically by dropping it to below 0 hit points or killing it), you get an immediate, extra melee attack against another creature within reach. You cannot take a 5-foot step before making this extra attack. The extra attack is with the same weapon and at the same bonus as the attack that dropped the previous creature. You can use this ability once per round. The way it's worded, it only counts if I deal damage to them when they're dropped, and IMproved Trip would allow just that. Could I Trip somoene, use my free attack to hit them, and then make a Cleave attack against an adjacent foe?
Shadowhowler 04-27-08, 12:55 AM	No... because when you trip them, you are 'dropping' them but not with damage. Cleave works when you deal enough damage to drop them.