Confirmation Request [Archive] - Wizards Community

Confirmation Request [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Mindolin
08-08-07, 04:18 PM Okay, just wanted to confirm an idea that I had that, say a character has martial weapon prof. "all", that is the same as having the weapon prof. feat in every martial weapon? Thanks.
Pentagram
08-08-07, 04:30 PM Yup.
Mindolin
08-08-07, 05:18 PM Then now my Warblade is proficient with a longbow. Good.
Pentagram
08-08-07, 06:19 PM I don't think that work, no. As a warblade you have proficiency with all simple and martial melee weapons. This allows you to take Weapon Focus for any simple or martial melee weapon, for example, or qualify for certain weapon style feats (given that you fullfill the other prerequisites, of course), but I pretty sure you can't use your weapon aptitude ability to exchange your virtual weapon proficiencies for others, as you don't have the actual feats.

Or rather, I clarify my first answer to say that, no, you don't have the Weapon Proficiency feat with all weapons you are proficient with. Prerequisites for proficiencies don't state that you must have the actual Proficiency feat, though, just proficiency, so it is as good as...although you can't pull stunts like what you suggested.
EjoThims
08-08-07, 06:37 PM You gain the proficiencies as a class ability, not as a series of bonus feats, so this and other feat swapping tricks don't work with your weapon profs.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Mindolin 08-08-07, 04:18 PM	Okay, just wanted to confirm an idea that I had that, say a character has martial weapon prof. "all", that is the same as having the weapon prof. feat in every martial weapon? Thanks.
Pentagram 08-08-07, 04:30 PM	Yup.
Mindolin 08-08-07, 05:18 PM	Then now my Warblade is proficient with a longbow. Good.
Pentagram 08-08-07, 06:19 PM	I don't think that work, no. As a warblade you have proficiency with all simple and martial melee weapons. This allows you to take Weapon Focus for any simple or martial melee weapon, for example, or qualify for certain weapon style feats (given that you fullfill the other prerequisites, of course), but I pretty sure you can't use your weapon aptitude ability to exchange your virtual weapon proficiencies for others, as you don't have the actual feats. Or rather, I clarify my first answer to say that, no, you don't have the Weapon Proficiency feat with all weapons you are proficient with. Prerequisites for proficiencies don't state that you must have the actual Proficiency feat, though, just proficiency, so it is as good as...although you can't pull stunts like what you suggested.
EjoThims 08-08-07, 06:37 PM	You gain the proficiencies as a class ability, not as a series of bonus feats, so this and other feat swapping tricks don't work with your weapon profs.