Craft(poisonmaking) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Craft(poisonmaking) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
WinDReiN
06-20-07, 09:40 AM Where can I find rules about creating poisons and the Craft(poisonmaking) skill?
Thiez
06-20-07, 09:47 AM Complete Adventurer, page 97-97.
pupilofyah
06-20-07, 01:05 PM craft alchemy covers posions and is more useful.

posion use on the other hand is a class feature that allow one to use posions with out the chance of posioning themselves.
Thiez
06-20-07, 01:20 PM Downside of Craft(Alchemy) would be that it requires you to be a spellcaster. So you can't take it as a rogue (but you can use it if you're an assassin).
TheDarkWolf
06-20-07, 10:29 PM and with craft elchemy you take a -4 penalty on crafting poisons
Psikerlord
06-20-07, 10:40 PM Where does it say you can use craft (Alchemy) to make poisons, with the -4 penalty?
Dragom
06-21-07, 03:26 AM I think it was Song and Silence.
Mentar
06-21-07, 07:58 PM BoVD has the info on substituting craft (alchemy) for craft (poisonmaking).
TheDarkWolf
06-21-07, 11:49 PM BoVD has the info on substituting craft (alchemy) for craft (poisonmaking).

yup what he said.. Book of Vile Darkness has alot of great stuff for those of you planning on using craft poisonmaking.

also arms and equipment guide gives a great list of poisons as well..

Books that talk about Poisons and Poison use
-DMG
-Complete Adventurer
-Underdark
-Arms and Equipment Guide
-Book of Vile Darkness
-((I Believe "Complete Scoundrel" but not 100%))

those are the ones I can think of top of my head.. if there is anymore please add it to the list.. There is a Dragon or Dungeon mag supposedly I hear that has a good write up about it as well. though I have not seen it personally. just heard about it. there is a thread here that someone says it somewhere.
Mentar
06-22-07, 12:15 AM Something I tried to find was where I had gotten the idea that craft (poisonmaking) would eliminate the chance of poisoning yourself.

I can't find anything stating the craft helps you use it without the chance, only the Assassin and Ninja get poison use to eliminate the chance of poisoning yourself.

Has anyone seen rules based on accidentally poisoning yourself while making poisons?
Assasin4H4Re
07-09-07, 08:11 PM When you put 5 ranks in a skill you are considered proficient with it. I think by taking 5 ranks in craft poisonmaking you forgo the poisoning yourself chance.
TheDarkWolf
07-10-07, 12:40 AM When you put 5 ranks in a skill you are considered proficient with it. I think by taking 5 ranks in craft poisonmaking you forgo the poisoning yourself chance.

With making it perhaps, but not with applying it. Or rolling a 1 on your attack roll.
lukelightning
07-10-07, 01:59 PM Personally I'd make craft (poison) a separate skill from craft (alchemy). Alchemy already has a lot of great stuff you can make. But I'd allow a synergy with 5 ranks of craft (alchemy) to give a +2 bonus to making poisons.
Legdiwena
07-10-07, 08:01 PM IIRC rogues and blackguards gain same immunity to self poison when applying to weapon
Everdreaming
07-10-07, 09:40 PM IIRC rogues and blackguards gain same immunity to self poison when applying to weapon

Rogues no, blackguards and assassins yes. And yes, Complete Scoundrel does have new usually non-lethal poisons.
The_Shaman
07-12-07, 06:03 AM I would expect craft (alchemy) to cover poisons, at least that way some non-casters will have use of it :rolleyes: That said, I have so far used craft poisonmaking, although the alchemy -4 rule makes sense. BTW, what do you use for gathering poisonous materials, say from the glands of a killed spider? I am thinking heal, survival or knowledge (relevant).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
WinDReiN 06-20-07, 09:40 AM	Where can I find rules about creating poisons and the Craft(poisonmaking) skill?
Thiez 06-20-07, 09:47 AM	Complete Adventurer, page 97-97.
pupilofyah 06-20-07, 01:05 PM	craft alchemy covers posions and is more useful. posion use on the other hand is a class feature that allow one to use posions with out the chance of posioning themselves.
Thiez 06-20-07, 01:20 PM	Downside of Craft(Alchemy) would be that it requires you to be a spellcaster. So you can't take it as a rogue (but you can use it if you're an assassin).
TheDarkWolf 06-20-07, 10:29 PM	and with craft elchemy you take a -4 penalty on crafting poisons
Psikerlord 06-20-07, 10:40 PM	Where does it say you can use craft (Alchemy) to make poisons, with the -4 penalty?
Dragom 06-21-07, 03:26 AM	I think it was Song and Silence.
Mentar 06-21-07, 07:58 PM	BoVD has the info on substituting craft (alchemy) for craft (poisonmaking).
TheDarkWolf 06-21-07, 11:49 PM	BoVD has the info on substituting craft (alchemy) for craft (poisonmaking). yup what he said.. Book of Vile Darkness has alot of great stuff for those of you planning on using craft poisonmaking. also arms and equipment guide gives a great list of poisons as well.. Books that talk about Poisons and Poison use -DMG -Complete Adventurer -Underdark -Arms and Equipment Guide -Book of Vile Darkness -((I Believe "Complete Scoundrel" but not 100%)) those are the ones I can think of top of my head.. if there is anymore please add it to the list.. There is a Dragon or Dungeon mag supposedly I hear that has a good write up about it as well. though I have not seen it personally. just heard about it. there is a thread here that someone says it somewhere.
Mentar 06-22-07, 12:15 AM	Something I tried to find was where I had gotten the idea that craft (poisonmaking) would eliminate the chance of poisoning yourself. I can't find anything stating the craft helps you use it without the chance, only the Assassin and Ninja get poison use to eliminate the chance of poisoning yourself. Has anyone seen rules based on accidentally poisoning yourself while making poisons?
Assasin4H4Re 07-09-07, 08:11 PM	When you put 5 ranks in a skill you are considered proficient with it. I think by taking 5 ranks in craft poisonmaking you forgo the poisoning yourself chance.
TheDarkWolf 07-10-07, 12:40 AM	When you put 5 ranks in a skill you are considered proficient with it. I think by taking 5 ranks in craft poisonmaking you forgo the poisoning yourself chance. With making it perhaps, but not with applying it. Or rolling a 1 on your attack roll.
lukelightning 07-10-07, 01:59 PM	Personally I'd make craft (poison) a separate skill from craft (alchemy). Alchemy already has a lot of great stuff you can make. But I'd allow a synergy with 5 ranks of craft (alchemy) to give a +2 bonus to making poisons.
Legdiwena 07-10-07, 08:01 PM	IIRC rogues and blackguards gain same immunity to self poison when applying to weapon
Everdreaming 07-10-07, 09:40 PM	IIRC rogues and blackguards gain same immunity to self poison when applying to weapon Rogues no, blackguards and assassins yes. And yes, Complete Scoundrel does have new usually non-lethal poisons.
The_Shaman 07-12-07, 06:03 AM	I would expect craft (alchemy) to cover poisons, at least that way some non-casters will have use of it :rolleyes: That said, I have so far used craft poisonmaking, although the alchemy -4 rule makes sense. BTW, what do you use for gathering poisonous materials, say from the glands of a killed spider? I am thinking heal, survival or knowledge (relevant).