Cross Class feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cross Class feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
SeaMan
08-07-07, 03:09 PM I was just flipping through the complete adventurer and found a few feats like Ascetic Knight, Ascetic Hunter, and Ascetic Mage. They seem a little broken to me what do you guys think have u come accross any others
TorgSmackie
08-07-07, 03:34 PM Complete Adventurer
Ascetic Rogue (monk/rogue)

Complete Scoundrel
Ascetic Stalker (monk/ninja)
Daring Outlaw (swashbuckler/rogue)
Daring Warrior (swashbuckler/fighter)
Martial Stalker (fighter/ninja)
Swift Ambusher (scout/rogue)
Swift Hunter (scout/ranger)

None of these feats is overpowered. They take class combinations that are actually kind of weak but sound cool and make them playable.

I took Swift Ambusher and tried to break it (it makes rogue levels count towards skirmish). It really wasn't all that impressive. You start dealing a little more damage than a rogue after about 7th level, but only if you meet the requirements for both sneak attack and skirmish.
tarkin
08-07-07, 03:47 PM Of the ones you mentioned, the only one I felt out of line was Ascetic Mage.

A Human can take just a single level of Monk (giving up only one level of Sorcerors) to effectively gain a HUGE increase to their AC.

Ascetic Knight and Ascetic Hunter are bad ideas. Unarmed damage is not that attractive to non-monks, and you give up more than you get when taking a single level of monk, even counting the stacking.
Jackmojo
08-07-07, 03:53 PM These Feats all fall under the same umbrella as Practiced Spellcaster:

Prerequisite: You suck.

Benefit: You suck less.

Jack
SeaMan
08-07-07, 04:21 PM Complete Adventurer
Ascetic Rogue (monk/rogue)

Complete Scoundrel
Ascetic Stalker (monk/ninja)
Daring Outlaw (swashbuckler/rogue)
Daring Warrior (swashbuckler/fighter)
Martial Stalker (fighter/ninja)
Swift Ambusher (scout/rogue)
Swift Hunter (scout/ranger)

Is there any other ones besides these. I was looking for one with rogue and bard.

I dont know palidin a monk seem over powered. your saves are through the roof
Sigfried Trent
08-07-07, 07:10 PM These Feats all fall under the same umbrella as Practiced Spellcaster:

Prerequisite: You suck.

Benefit: You suck less.

Jack

lol Ya that is about the way of it although...

I am currently playing a character with Ascetic Rogue and it really let me make the character I was shooting for, and he's really pretty decent. Sneak attack and Stunning blow go together pretty well with TWF and/or Flurry of Blows since once Stunned all your subsiquent attacks get the sneak attack bonus. Basicaly a DPS strategy for a skillish character. Usualy monks start a little wimpy in the damage dealing but wtih 16str, 1d8 unarmed damage and 2d6 sneak attack I can put out some respectable damage at level 5.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SeaMan 08-07-07, 03:09 PM	I was just flipping through the complete adventurer and found a few feats like Ascetic Knight, Ascetic Hunter, and Ascetic Mage. They seem a little broken to me what do you guys think have u come accross any others
TorgSmackie 08-07-07, 03:34 PM	Complete Adventurer Ascetic Rogue (monk/rogue) Complete Scoundrel Ascetic Stalker (monk/ninja) Daring Outlaw (swashbuckler/rogue) Daring Warrior (swashbuckler/fighter) Martial Stalker (fighter/ninja) Swift Ambusher (scout/rogue) Swift Hunter (scout/ranger) None of these feats is overpowered. They take class combinations that are actually kind of weak but sound cool and make them playable. I took Swift Ambusher and tried to break it (it makes rogue levels count towards skirmish). It really wasn't all that impressive. You start dealing a little more damage than a rogue after about 7th level, but only if you meet the requirements for both sneak attack and skirmish.
tarkin 08-07-07, 03:47 PM	Of the ones you mentioned, the only one I felt out of line was Ascetic Mage. A Human can take just a single level of Monk (giving up only one level of Sorcerors) to effectively gain a HUGE increase to their AC. Ascetic Knight and Ascetic Hunter are bad ideas. Unarmed damage is not that attractive to non-monks, and you give up more than you get when taking a single level of monk, even counting the stacking.
Jackmojo 08-07-07, 03:53 PM	These Feats all fall under the same umbrella as Practiced Spellcaster: Prerequisite: You suck. Benefit: You suck less. Jack
SeaMan 08-07-07, 04:21 PM	Complete Adventurer Ascetic Rogue (monk/rogue) Complete Scoundrel Ascetic Stalker (monk/ninja) Daring Outlaw (swashbuckler/rogue) Daring Warrior (swashbuckler/fighter) Martial Stalker (fighter/ninja) Swift Ambusher (scout/rogue) Swift Hunter (scout/ranger) Is there any other ones besides these. I was looking for one with rogue and bard. I dont know palidin a monk seem over powered. your saves are through the roof
Sigfried Trent 08-07-07, 07:10 PM	These Feats all fall under the same umbrella as Practiced Spellcaster: Prerequisite: You suck. Benefit: You suck less. Jack lol Ya that is about the way of it although... I am currently playing a character with Ascetic Rogue and it really let me make the character I was shooting for, and he's really pretty decent. Sneak attack and Stunning blow go together pretty well with TWF and/or Flurry of Blows since once Stunned all your subsiquent attacks get the sneak attack bonus. Basicaly a DPS strategy for a skillish character. Usualy monks start a little wimpy in the damage dealing but wtih 16str, 1d8 unarmed damage and 2d6 sneak attack I can put out some respectable damage at level 5.