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alluarjun
12-28-07, 01:44 PM I am confused about the mechanics of the feat Death Blow from complete Adventurer. It says you may coup de grace as a standard action, but provoke an attack of oppurtunity. Does the opponent need to be helpless for you to coup de grace? and, If so isnt the feat and absolute waste, and If not, isnt the feat amazing? I am not in possession of CADv right this moment.
Tordak
12-28-07, 02:07 PM A coup de grace is usually a full round action. All this feat does is reduce the time it takes from full-round to standard action. You could thus move to go finish an helpless foe (1 move + 1 standard action), or move away after you finish an opponent to engage another foe. It could be good if you have means to paralyse your opponents (spells, special abilities, etc.).
RobbyPants
12-28-07, 02:16 PM It makes setting up the old Hold Person & Coup De Grace combo easier with just one person (i.e. the cleric).

Yes, a person needs to be helpless in order to be CDGed. Don't confuse this with stunned, pinned, or several other conditions. Paralized will do the trick.

Yes, it still provokes an AoO, but not from the helpless victim (obviously), so you just have to worry about any enemies standing near by.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
alluarjun 12-28-07, 01:44 PM	I am confused about the mechanics of the feat Death Blow from complete Adventurer. It says you may coup de grace as a standard action, but provoke an attack of oppurtunity. Does the opponent need to be helpless for you to coup de grace? and, If so isnt the feat and absolute waste, and If not, isnt the feat amazing? I am not in possession of CADv right this moment.
Tordak 12-28-07, 02:07 PM	A coup de grace is usually a full round action. All this feat does is reduce the time it takes from full-round to standard action. You could thus move to go finish an helpless foe (1 move + 1 standard action), or move away after you finish an opponent to engage another foe. It could be good if you have means to paralyse your opponents (spells, special abilities, etc.).
RobbyPants 12-28-07, 02:16 PM	It makes setting up the old Hold Person & Coup De Grace combo easier with just one person (i.e. the cleric). Yes, a person needs to be helpless in order to be CDGed. Don't confuse this with stunned, pinned, or several other conditions. Paralized will do the trick. Yes, it still provokes an AoO, but not from the helpless victim (obviously), so you just have to worry about any enemies standing near by.