Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Twilight_Knight 07-06-07, 10:59 PM	One of my players wants to use this combo in order to reduce the standard action spot check of the Deft Strike to a free action per the quick reconnoiter feat. Would this work? I say no because it clearly states that you perform a standard action to try and locate a weakness and then use a spot to evaluate your success/failure. I would think that to have these feats stack, DS would have to say something more like "perform a spot check and if successful, you locate a weak point." I know that it seems like semantics, but in most cases, the way a rule is written is more important to what it actually says. Thoughts?
Watsyurname529 07-06-07, 11:03 PM	It would not work because Deft Strike says in the description it takes a standard action to spot a weakness. If it did say, preform a successful spot check, then yes it would.
jaelis 07-06-07, 11:04 PM	They don't work together, for the reason you say. You don't make a spot check to use deft strike, you take a standard action that involves a spot check. If that isn't clear already from the feat text, remind your player that a normal spot check is a move action, so it is clear that deft strike requires something different. Also: quick reconnoiter says "You can make one spot check and one listen check each round as a free action." And that is exactly what you can do. It doesn't say you can use deft strike as a free action, and using deft strike is certainly not synonymous with making a spot check.
Joesph_kurr 07-06-07, 11:05 PM	never mind