Does anyone actually use item creation feats or have them? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Does anyone actually use item creation feats or have them? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Fox Reeveheart
08-17-07, 11:32 PM I havent been in a group where even one person has had a item creation feat or used one. At the very most I see them as an excuse as to why a npc wizard has a golem or something like that.

Does anyone else have them for a character? It seems like xp costs are just too much to give away and also take weeks to make something for most items thus you miss out on rp time and you fall behind.
Salla
08-17-07, 11:38 PM The Artificer may well be my favorite class, so I get them a lot.

One thing to remember is that the 3.5 XP system self-corrects. If you fall a level behind, you will recieve more XP until your level evens out with the rest of the group.

Secondly, the game should involve downtime at some point, so rather than having to 'sit out' the DM just fast-forwards time and then you move on with it.
runestar
08-18-07, 12:54 AM The ability to create magic items at 1/2 market price (with xp expenditure of course, but well worth it) and access the correct items you want, rather than rely on random item drops....potentially allowing you to exceed your wealth guidelines...what's not to like?
Kouk
08-18-07, 01:19 AM Most of the time, I only ever use Scribe Scroll, I don't like pumping XP into the other things - but that's because I hate falling behind, even a little bit :P.

The items are very useful though.
DukeBoltras
08-18-07, 01:19 AM I use them in the game I run. The game I play in is low magic and the GM doesn't allow you to take a new feat with out some one to teach it to you or a tome of lost knowledge to learn it from. So our 17th level wizrds party (yes a party of all wizards) Is raiding every lost library we can find to get item creation feats.
Vegepygmy
08-18-07, 01:24 AM Does anyone else have them for a character? It seems like xp costs are just too much to give away and also take weeks to make something for most items thus you miss out on rp time and you fall behind.Yes, my characters have taken item creation feats many times. I have also seen others take them. The XP cost is insignificant, IMO; it doesn't matter at all until you fall behind a level, and then you start earning more XP than your companions for the same encounter, which means you quickly catch back up. The time requirement can be a real problem, though, if your DM doesn't make sure to arrange enough downtime.
Grumman
08-18-07, 04:29 AM My primary character has lots of them:
Scribe Scroll, Create Wonderous Magic Item, Create Magic Arms and Armour, Craft Construct and Construct Grafting.

The only one I haven't used is Scribe Scroll.
RobTzu
08-18-07, 05:00 AM Yep, it is easy enough to get at least one in, Craft Weapons and Armor is my personal favorite. The Cleric I ran took it (I am a kind and generous Cleric). Summon Monster 1 gives you the bane ability. We had lots of +1 Bane weapons. ;)

Craft Wondrous is probably the best for Wizard types though.
risner
08-20-07, 09:12 PM I havent been in a group where even one person has had a item creation feat or used one. At the very most I see them as an excuse as to why a npc wizard has a golem or something like that.

Does anyone else have them for a character? It seems like xp costs are just too much to give away and also take weeks to make something for most items thus you miss out on rp time and you fall behind.

I have them on almost every single spell casting character I play.

I also use them as much as possible in games where the DM follows the rules of XP awarding. In other words, I try to use it to the extend that I am one level behind and thus receiving more experience per encounter which more than covers my needs to item creation for the whole party.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Fox Reeveheart 08-17-07, 11:32 PM	I havent been in a group where even one person has had a item creation feat or used one. At the very most I see them as an excuse as to why a npc wizard has a golem or something like that. Does anyone else have them for a character? It seems like xp costs are just too much to give away and also take weeks to make something for most items thus you miss out on rp time and you fall behind.
Salla 08-17-07, 11:38 PM	The Artificer may well be my favorite class, so I get them a lot. One thing to remember is that the 3.5 XP system self-corrects. If you fall a level behind, you will recieve more XP until your level evens out with the rest of the group. Secondly, the game should involve downtime at some point, so rather than having to 'sit out' the DM just fast-forwards time and then you move on with it.
runestar 08-18-07, 12:54 AM	The ability to create magic items at 1/2 market price (with xp expenditure of course, but well worth it) and access the correct items you want, rather than rely on random item drops....potentially allowing you to exceed your wealth guidelines...what's not to like?
Kouk 08-18-07, 01:19 AM	Most of the time, I only ever use Scribe Scroll, I don't like pumping XP into the other things - but that's because I hate falling behind, even a little bit :P. The items are very useful though.
DukeBoltras 08-18-07, 01:19 AM	I use them in the game I run. The game I play in is low magic and the GM doesn't allow you to take a new feat with out some one to teach it to you or a tome of lost knowledge to learn it from. So our 17th level wizrds party (yes a party of all wizards) Is raiding every lost library we can find to get item creation feats.
Vegepygmy 08-18-07, 01:24 AM	Does anyone else have them for a character? It seems like xp costs are just too much to give away and also take weeks to make something for most items thus you miss out on rp time and you fall behind.Yes, my characters have taken item creation feats many times. I have also seen others take them. The XP cost is insignificant, IMO; it doesn't matter at all until you fall behind a level, and then you start earning more XP than your companions for the same encounter, which means you quickly catch back up. The time requirement can be a real problem, though, if your DM doesn't make sure to arrange enough downtime.
Grumman 08-18-07, 04:29 AM	My primary character has lots of them: Scribe Scroll, Create Wonderous Magic Item, Create Magic Arms and Armour, Craft Construct and Construct Grafting. The only one I haven't used is Scribe Scroll.
RobTzu 08-18-07, 05:00 AM	Yep, it is easy enough to get at least one in, Craft Weapons and Armor is my personal favorite. The Cleric I ran took it (I am a kind and generous Cleric). Summon Monster 1 gives you the bane ability. We had lots of +1 Bane weapons. ;) Craft Wondrous is probably the best for Wizard types though.
risner 08-20-07, 09:12 PM	I havent been in a group where even one person has had a item creation feat or used one. At the very most I see them as an excuse as to why a npc wizard has a golem or something like that. Does anyone else have them for a character? It seems like xp costs are just too much to give away and also take weeks to make something for most items thus you miss out on rp time and you fall behind. I have them on almost every single spell casting character I play. I also use them as much as possible in games where the DM follows the rules of XP awarding. In other words, I try to use it to the extend that I am one level behind and thus receiving more experience per encounter which more than covers my needs to item creation for the whole party.