Does Extra Spell do what I want it to? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Does Extra Spell do what I want it to? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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FponkDamn
08-10-07, 04:02 AM Sorry, couldn't find this anywhere else - does the Extra Spell feat give you a spell that isn't on your class list? Can a wizard learn Heal, or a Paladin True Strike? Seems sketchy, but couldn't say for sure.

Thanks in advance!

- Johnny
DM Zoc
08-10-07, 04:08 AM No. It's mostly used for Sorcerers or Bards, or others who have a hard limit on spells known. It absolutely does not allow an arcane caster to cast spells from the Cleric spell list; that takes a different feat.
runestar
08-10-07, 04:08 AM You can only learn spells on your spell list, as clarified by the FAQ. Else, this leads to all sorts of problematic possibilities, like polar ray being a 5th lv duskblade spell, irresistable dance being a bard6 spell etc.
tarkin
08-10-07, 11:36 AM There are basically two ways to get what you desire:

1. Bloodline feats that add a bunch of specified spells to your spell list and also to your spells known list.

2. The feat Arcane Disciple which you can use to add any specific Domain's lists of spells to your spells known, with some rather odd limitations.

In addition, I could see making a home brew feat that adds any single from the Cleric, Wizard, Sorcerors, or Druid spell list to any other classe's spell list at one level higher than normal.

This avoids the problems of using spells from partial lists such as the duskblade or bard.
FponkDamn
08-10-07, 09:08 PM I know I've seen Arcane Disciple in one of my books - where is that? That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.

- Johnny
runestar
08-10-07, 11:26 PM I know I've seen Arcane Disciple in one of my books - where is that? That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.

- Johnny

Complete divine. Lets you cast a domain's spells 1/day each.:)
FponkDamn
08-11-07, 10:02 AM Much obliged!

- Johnny
risner
08-13-07, 10:32 PM Sorry, couldn't find this anywhere else - does the Extra Spell feat give you a spell that isn't on your class list? Can a wizard learn Heal, or a Paladin True Strike? Seems sketchy, but couldn't say for sure.

Thanks in advance!

- Johnny

Absolutely not.

Nothing can unless it has these words "from any spell list", since even if it added them to your spell book the words in your class write up (Wizards cast spell from the wiz/sorc list) would prohibit casting of the spell.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
FponkDamn 08-10-07, 04:02 AM	Sorry, couldn't find this anywhere else - does the Extra Spell feat give you a spell that isn't on your class list? Can a wizard learn Heal, or a Paladin True Strike? Seems sketchy, but couldn't say for sure. Thanks in advance! - Johnny
DM Zoc 08-10-07, 04:08 AM	No. It's mostly used for Sorcerers or Bards, or others who have a hard limit on spells known. It absolutely does not allow an arcane caster to cast spells from the Cleric spell list; that takes a different feat.
runestar 08-10-07, 04:08 AM	You can only learn spells on your spell list, as clarified by the FAQ. Else, this leads to all sorts of problematic possibilities, like polar ray being a 5th lv duskblade spell, irresistable dance being a bard6 spell etc.
tarkin 08-10-07, 11:36 AM	There are basically two ways to get what you desire: 1. Bloodline feats that add a bunch of specified spells to your spell list and also to your spells known list. 2. The feat Arcane Disciple which you can use to add any specific Domain's lists of spells to your spells known, with some rather odd limitations. In addition, I could see making a home brew feat that adds any single from the Cleric, Wizard, Sorcerors, or Druid spell list to any other classe's spell list at one level higher than normal. This avoids the problems of using spells from partial lists such as the duskblade or bard.
FponkDamn 08-10-07, 09:08 PM	I know I've seen Arcane Disciple in one of my books - where is that? That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. - Johnny
runestar 08-10-07, 11:26 PM	I know I've seen Arcane Disciple in one of my books - where is that? That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. - Johnny Complete divine. Lets you cast a domain's spells 1/day each.:)
FponkDamn 08-11-07, 10:02 AM	Much obliged! - Johnny
risner 08-13-07, 10:32 PM	Sorry, couldn't find this anywhere else - does the Extra Spell feat give you a spell that isn't on your class list? Can a wizard learn Heal, or a Paladin True Strike? Seems sketchy, but couldn't say for sure. Thanks in advance! - Johnny Absolutely not. Nothing can unless it has these words "from any spell list", since even if it added them to your spell book the words in your class write up (Wizards cast spell from the wiz/sorc list) would prohibit casting of the spell.